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He started the first two games then injured. Came back from injuries in Palace game and started 3 games in a row, since then he missed couple of games and being on the benched due to ill and injuries. Technically, he started when he was full match fitness.
i was against this signing from the first rumours. He is not good enough, saw him for England and Chelsea. Once Erics failed Bruno/Mount experiment did not work, as expected, he is a squad player now. We can get good money for him, as he is English and hard working.
Counter point, he's been player of the year multiple times at Chelsea, and I believe during his loan in the Eredivisie. He might not be the most talented player purely in terms of technique, but he has a lot to offer in a cohesive team, the fact that he's not shone in our clusterf**k of a team during his injury hit first season should in no way be used to judge him. We have a lot of players we need to replace, Mount should be a long way down that list.
Disagree. This is how we end up with all the overpaid dross in our squad that we can't move on. If he's not fit for purpose, sell.
Right, but we don't know that he's not fit for purpose because he's barely played and when he has its been part of a totally dysfunctional side in which nobody seems to know what they're meant to be doing. If I was judging our players purely on performances this season I'm not sure I'd be keen on keeping anyone apart from Garnacho and Mainoo - but that's because we've been a complete mess this season. I'd want to see Mount given a chance to show what he can do before we bin him, especially as (imo) we need to bin off Martial, McTominay, Maguire, Varane, Eriksen, Sancho, Greenwood, and Casemiro. And there are big question marks still over Rashford, Onana, AWB, Dalot, and Lindelof. That's all assuming we don't actually sign Amrabat of course.
Dele Alli's career collapsed thanks to his mental health problems. Also Mount playing 8 isn't new. He spent his loan spells in Holland and ag Derby in the role. Its Chelsea who chose to play him higher up. ETH didn't just sign a player to operate in a new role alien to them
When the player is employed by Manchester United. Next we will start adding players' carbon footprint.When does this ever get mentioned when speaking about a player.
Mount played every league game last season he was fit for, starting all but three where he came on as a sub. Hell, he played in every CL and cup game as well, with most of those also being starts. So he literally played in every game he was available for, albeit there was one game in the CL that he only came on for the final two minutes. He was hardly struggling to get into the team.
I actually thought he looked decent in the matches he did play as well, especially given how much some have struggled this season.
Isn't Mount out allegedly due to mental health issues?
Source?
Some whopper in this thread. Hence why I said allegedly.
According to what?
What 'defensive diligence'? Outside of tackles made high up the field when counter-pressing, Mount is just as much of a non-entity defensive as the rest of our no.10's masquerading as central midfielders. I don't really know what 'tactical acumen' means, really. Repeating something vague doesn't make it anymore true.
Yeah all this really, Would take the most incredible tactical shift from us to ever make that work. One Ten Hag has proven he’s not up to.
Since when? This is news to me
A full season in the Eredivisie in the role and a good chunk of his year in the championship with Derby doing the same. Which is what rose him to prominence in the first place....
We get it bro - you've been underwhelmed by him so far. Me too. At this point it would probably be best to practice your newfound ability to use sarcasm elsewhere.
Baffling signing.
Given last season he was injured for most of the year like this year, the concern is he's going the Martial route with fitness. The other concern is that his "very good seasons" were basically the equivalent of playing Bruno's role for us, but to a lower level than Bruno. But we already have Bruno, who is our captain, so a bit pointless. The 3rd concern is team balance. It's a simple question of what midfield looks more balanced, even if you ignore Ten Hag's system and look at any future potential manager. What route do you want to go?
Just like most fans said during the summer. Mount is not what we need in midfield, not least when we play Rashford and Garnacho who do not like to track back.
Garnacho I'd say is a more typical winger output defensively, Rashford of course is a 0 with it, but even ignorning the wingers I just don't see how we get that midfield balanced with Mount next to Bruno, or more importantly performing to a high enough level. Or simply a higher level than our other options, which is Casemiro next to Mainoo. It just didn't make sense.
Yeah that was interesting. And as you say, makes an already confusing signing even more so.
The most confusing this is that pretty much every fan with a bit of sense realised that the signing was nonsensical, I get fans want to be optimistic about new signings but Mount didn’t make any sense to us at all. It might have made sense if we’re planning to move Fernandes on, but Ten Hag has then tried to implement a system to accommodate both players that’s left the team so exposed that Fernandes would likely outlast him anyway. Was a stupid, stupid signing.
Which is what so many of us suggested, but we were shot down for not seeing some sort of masterful tactical grand plan.
Probably the club’s dumbest signing ever. One that really makes me question and doubt Ten Hag’s intelligence. I feel bad for Mount as it’s not on him, and he could still prove to be a good squad player once the midfield is properly fixed, but feck me what a waste of £55 million. Murtough is a brainless plum that needs volleying out the club.
If Frank Lampard is mystified about how ETH intends to get the best out of Mason Mount then I'd consider that a ringing endorsement of the signing. I suspect Frank Lampard is mystified about how to tie his shoe laces every morning. Based on what we've seen from Mount at United so far it's pretty obvious that ETH has no intention of playing him in deeper areas. Although it's not surprising that Fwank didn't pick up on this, as it's very much in keeping with his tactical acumen as a manager so far.
United going for Mount was the first real moment that made me question what ETH was doing. I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he had a plan and knew what he was doing. But the first few appearances didn't show that to be the case.
