Then why has Bruno put in the numbers but Mount has barely an assist to his name and went missing in EVERY match he's played?
7
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 18
- Goals
- 1
- Assists
- 1
- Yellow cards
- 2
That’s the thing — I don’t think Mount offers much in cohesion either. I think he’s a bit of a coaster. Like a juiced van de Beek (Ajax level) type of player. That’s not going to add much to our chasm of a midfield.
Has Bruno actually won it in top numbers this season? They say stats can lie, but if the numbers say Bruno has had a top season it would be in defiance of what our eyes have been telling us all season.
That Mount could have done better is unprovable, but what’s hard to dispute is that Bruno has been poor this season.
He is exactly that. A continuation of the lineage of Tom Cleverly and Mata.
What people also forget is that like half of Mount's assists for Chelsea were from corners.
Suicidal midfield that, but pretty on brand for ten Hag’s clueless tactics.
Yeah, who wants a consistent,.effective set piece taker anyway. Waste of time.
I really believe this was his plan at the start, now who the feck knows.
The point was more he doesn't create much from open play, especially when compared to someone like Bruno. Better corners would be good but they had Zouma, Rudiger and someone else (Silva?) scoring regularly from them, whereas we only really have Maguire who scores headers and he wouldn't play if our other defenders were fit.
Because he’s the captain, duh!
Fairly certain he was brought in as cover for Bruno but to be the replacement for Erikson. ETH wants us to be a high pressing team and Mount was just another piece of that puzzle.
Speaking of Mount anyone know when he’s due back or if he is even in training.
Edit- seemingly ETH said in Feb he was several weeks away from returning so maybe end of March.
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Casemiro is far more of an aerial threat from corners than Maguire.
What a bizarre signing. Genuinely forget he exists.
I suppose the only 'good' thing is that it's feasible we will have a far better season next year if we can keep the squad fit with a few decent additions. Of course that's a fecking gigantic 'if'.
I suppose the only 'good' thing is that it's feasible we will have a far better season next year if we can keep the squad fit with a few decent additions. Of course that's a fecking gigantic 'if'.
Mount is the 'transitional player'.
I think this is why Arteta wanted him instead of Havertz too.
Mount can play anywhere across the centre midfield to the forward positions - what he does is gets in to pockets of open space and becomes the 'False' player that plays almost as a free flowing pivot where his only duty is to receive the ball in the space his team mates have left behind. This helps the build up play move forward as Mount moves forward.
So you will see him consistently move from LCM to RCM to RAM to LAM to LW to RW and even as a SS.
His movement around the opposition half provides a receiver for his team mates to find the extra man that can cover all positions temporarily.
I think I saw this when Ten Hag played Mount as a CM. Mount's main duty was to move to a free play area, receive pass, pass it back then again move to the next open space. This way the play gets transitioned through Mason Mount's movement in to arguably all different positions that are temporary and not permanent.
I think this is why Arteta wanted him instead of Havertz too.
Mount can play anywhere across the centre midfield to the forward positions - what he does is gets in to pockets of open space and becomes the 'False' player that plays almost as a free flowing pivot where his only duty is to receive the ball in the space his team mates have left behind. This helps the build up play move forward as Mount moves forward.
So you will see him consistently move from LCM to RCM to RAM to LAM to LW to RW and even as a SS.
His movement around the opposition half provides a receiver for his team mates to find the extra man that can cover all positions temporarily.
I think I saw this when Ten Hag played Mount as a CM. Mount's main duty was to move to a free play area, receive pass, pass it back then again move to the next open space. This way the play gets transitioned through Mason Mount's movement in to arguably all different positions that are temporary and not permanent.
Putting Tom Cleverley and Mata in the same bucket is WILD.
I still have hopes for Mount here...wasn't massively excited by his signing but I do think if played in Brunos position that he could help us keep the ball better and provide a goal threat too. That leaves the issue of where to stick Bruno, as he's class when on song and has been one of our most effective players since signing.
Flop of the season for sure.
Where the feck is this dude?
I keep forgetting Mount plays for us
The negativity surrounding this young lad is exhausting.
He's been injured all season, lads.
At least give him a chance to be shit.
He's been injured all season, lads.
At least give him a chance to be shit.
Had a feeling the past couple of weeks that there’s something we don’t know yet
I’ll be surprised if we see him this season
Threads like this are why am beginning to hate huge swarthes of our fan base.....
I think you actually have to be fit to play in order to be considered a flop.
I remember reading you posts long long ago, when you couldn't sign up with hotmail!
Do you think this place is softer now?
Personally think the mourinho years we're bad. Ole years was pretty toxic as well on here
I get a regular reminder of how I realise I forget that he's in our squad when I see this thread bump up to the top.
Maaan. Its like a number of our fans drink jugs of hate before posting in here
The hate on The Caf is strongMaaan. Its like a number of our fans drink jugs of hate before posting in here
He's had about 5 games with nothing meaningful to show
I think many fans, me included, would be much more understanding towards the situation if they were treated seriously and informed about what's going on, rather than being blindsided. We've been only told some very vague stuff, something about calf problems, but never really any serious info, no potential return date, no nothing.
This is one long thread for someone who has barely played. Let's hope we get him fit over the summer.
That's still only 5 games. Which of the 5 games that Højlund has played are you going to choose to say he's a flop?
Great input.
This has always been more of a scientific discusison than player performance thread
A player that you paid millions and millions for and fails to play football matches due to his lack of fitness is obviously a freaking flop. I mean there's nothing to debate about.
Almost 4 months out injured...I wonder what happened
Knowing how our club is wrong, this guy did the medical and forgot to check his legs.I think many fans, me included, would be much more understanding towards the situation if they were treated seriously and informed about what's going on, rather than being blindsided. We've been only told some very vague stuff, something about calf problems, but never really any serious info, no potential return date, no nothing.
And the 30 games before for Chelsea.
Exactly. Useless for the year/year and a half prior to signing for us, too.
Absolute tragedy of a signing. In fact, I’d go out and say worse than Antony - as at least Antony fitted the position and profile of player we needed. Mount ticks no boxes at all. He’s sitting pretty at home earning stupid money, wiping his arse with our number 7 shirt.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a Pelvic issue that were too embarrassed to share details of publicly as we chose to ignore that during his medical.I think many fans, me included, would be much more understanding towards the situation if they were treated seriously and informed about what's going on, rather than being blindsided. We've been only told some very vague stuff, something about calf problems, but never really any serious info, no potential return date, no nothing.
Was thinking about this the other day about how he could maybe be worse than the Antony signing.
- Contract was running out
- Took number 7 shirt
- Didn’t particularly need him / fill a hole
- Injury Prone
- Massive wages
- Helped direct rival out massively with their FFP
I could go on…
If Mount doesn’t stay fit next year or have any impact I think it’s at least a stalemate with Antony.
The manager identified him as an absolute necessity, just goes to show how this manager's decisions are questionable.
What a fecking waste of everybody's time this has been.
What a fecking waste of everybody's time this has been.