Really? I've had that countless times and never had a defender arrive. Guess I must've been lucky all those times. It would've been better if it was only triggered with a full combat alert, with some decent security it's hard enough to avoid that. And when a defender arrives it becomes such an unbalanced affair it's almost pointless to continue.The new update allows you to get Quiet back, apparently
@Ainu - I think just suspicion will raise the alarm. If a guard sees a neutralised colleague, for example.
This is my problem with it. I want to carry on because the gameplay is so good but I find when I get out of the chopper there's feck all to do, well there's one thing I can do over and over and over again - EXTRACT enemy soldiers.
Except it was.
Was it? Konami said they shipped 5 million thats nothing compared to Fallout, Battlefront, Fifa, NBA 2k16, its not even on the top 10 on the UK charts now.
Those other games are the exception, not the rule. MGS was a massive success in the eyes of Konami.
I'm not sure about that. Its development and marketing costs were huge, and yet it didn't sold as good as MGS4 did in its first week, and that was on a single platform. The combined costs have been speculated to be around $100-120m, they'd need about 5-6m units sold to break even. So they're only just starting to reach that point after 10 weeks. Compare that to The Witcher 3, which had a combined cost of $81m and reached 6m sold units after 6 weeks. I you consider all those numbers, MGSV doesn't look like a massive success.
You're ignoring revenue from in game purchases.
It seems extremely doubtful it would be a significant factor in this case.
My point was not whether or not Konami considered it a success I was talking about it being a sales juggernaut as in on the same level as the games I mentioned before which it isnt. Personally I expected it to do better especially considering it was out of the way of CoD, Fallout and Battlefront.
And that's the point I'm making, it is unfair to judge most games sales against the aforementioned titles. They are anomalies and have buily up a following over years.
This is going on in circles so just to end it: MGSV did not sell crazy numbers but it did well, some people like myself expected it to do much better.
Pretty much sums up my feelings.So, after a mid-game hiatus (I was afraid I was going to burn out on it so took some leave) I finally completed this. It's a flawed masterpiece imo. The gameplay for me is just superb, I liked the story, or more to the point where it was going (but more on that in the spoiler) and although there were some great typical Metal-Gear-Solid moments it wasn't quite up there with the other games & that's what lets the game down slightly. But before I get to moaning about other stuff with the game, I have to say I really did have a blast playing this & I think it's the fastest I've ever clocked up 100+ hours game time in a game.
That second chapter you could really tell that Konami pretty much forced Kojima to get the game out in 2015. If you believe what you read on the interwebs Kojima wanted another year to get the game fully completed but Konami came back and said the schedule is for this to be released in 2015 and that's what's going to happen regardless so get whatever you have done wrapped up for release. The falling out between them is making a lot more sense now though blame probably also lies with Kojima too for dithering/going over budget but I got the feeling that the ending was a massive 'Feck You' to Konami, in that it's not even Big Boss' story in the end. It also hammers home the sentiment that Konami don't really give a feck about their IP's or the people that work for them. This was supposed to be the grand finale and bring the Big Boss/Solid Snake/Ocelot storyline full circle and they just pushed it out the door unfinished. There's still a gap in the storyline & it leaves a bit of a bad taste especially where you see in the picture below the what real scope the game was intended to be, it really could have been one of the best games ever. If all that got done then there's no way the 'twist' at the end of game would have been handled the same.
Eh....Where does this happen? I haven't really got a conclusion to her storyline. I was skipping the cut scenes on the repeat missions though so maybe I've skipped one I shouldn't have
Have you completed all side-ops?Eh....Where does this happen? I haven't really got a conclusion to her storyline. I was skipping the cut scenes on the repeat missions though so maybe I've skipped one I shouldn't have
I would say MGS5. Gameplay wise it's probably the best I've seen on PS4 so far
If they simply removed the repeat missions and instead finished up that Eli story as one mission, it would be enough to make it one of the best games ever.
MGS has far better gameplay but Fallout will last longer.
@Big Andy I played 130 hours of MGS5 (with no break) and I took a break at 60 hours of FO4. Exactly
I think my first 40 hours playing were just in amazement of the graphics and 60 fps. Such a beautiful game.
Fallout 4 barely has a story so continue with MGS5
Do you value story in your games? If so, then be prepared for a shitfest. If you're a fan of the franchise, which doesn't seem to be the case, or story telling in general, stop after chapter one.
Kinda harsh towards MGS5 considering its FO4 story thats the alternative. A game with a weaker story and gameplay.
Chapter two is irredeemable (bar the quarantine mission). The fact the majority think so says a lot. And don't get me started on the ending.
Knew I should have added an 'imo' somewhere.
Yeah It's pretty terrible. Should have named it epilogue
Don't get me wrong I'm loving this game, just that point makes me a bit sad.
I disagree - Have put so many hours into this game and am at mission 23 I think - so the game has incredible length and longevity for me (and I haven't even got to the FOB stage yet). With regard to the side ops missions, I personally am happy with them having that many - would rather have more than less. I don't mind the repitition, as I like the core gameplay mechanics so much. I have played the missions trying to be a stealthy as possible, and then used the side ops to try different approaches- both loud and quiet - to take advantage of the incredible sandbox that you have to play in.
Gameplay is good, I don't doubt it, but writing and variety should be much better than it is. You have a big open world with hardly anything to do, weak side ops that are all alike, poor main story that does not make you care for a long while. I got to mission 19 and I am now playing this in large intervals because I have little desire to sit down and play it for 4-5 consecutive hours which wouldn't have been the case with a well written game like Witcher 3 that I could have easily spent several days on and not get bored.
I'd rather have more meaningful content than endless repetition of identical side ops in an identical context. I also disagree sandbox is incredible, as it feels completely dead outside of the guard posts and bases. There's nothing explore, it doesn't feel alive and traveling is a bitch. As I said several times, the gameplay itself is excellent and I agree with you that it feels much more like a polished current gen title than most other games, but that didn't stop me from getting bored somewhere between the 50 and 100 hour mark. I pushed on far beyond 100 hours and completed all main story missions (including 45 and the elusive 46) and several of the higher difficulty missions, plus around 90% of the 157 side ops, but so much of it felt like a chore.
