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Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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Are you excited about potentially getting Caicedo?
His original contract was a low wage (but more than £3k p/w). For accounting reasons, he additionally received a guaranteed loyalty bonus paid incrementally with his wage, which brought his “guaranteed earnings” up to a reasonable level. This I know first hand.
His new contract ditched this structure and instead offered him a high salary (one of the highest in the club, behind Dunk) and ditched loyalty bonuses.
Loyalty bonuses work thusly: if the player stays under contract with a club, he receives an amount paid incrementally alongside his wage. He forfeits this bonus if he requests or indeed forces a transfer. Any monies paid to the player would be refunded to the club, as he broke his “loyalty” to them.
With Caicedo - or rather his agent - aware he will likely move in the summer, they renegotiated this loyalty payment structure into a fixed wage. This benefitted the player because he was stuck on a relatively low remuneration package for a player of his ability, with years to run on the deal. If the player were to try and force a move, he would lose the majority of his structured pay. It also afforded him a like-for-like pay increase on his previous contract structure.
It benefitted the club, because it allowed them to extend the player’s contract and guarantee the player’s value in the transfer market when the time came to sell.
A negotiated release clause was never an option, because the player - via his new agent - was never in a position to negotiate one. They got a pay rise and fixed salary in return for a contract term extension.
The player was never taking home as little as £3k per week. Structured loyalty bonus schemes are very common with footballers with huge potential, so that as they develop with a club, they earn more.
Anything you read on websites/Twitter/TikTok is fabrication with absolutely no working knowledge of this aspect of the football business. Validate, assess, question.
Yeah trust them to rescue midfield situation
He asked for 1 or 2 lines, so apart from an excellent post, you failed
feck. Great signing for pool
Sorry! Just wanted to be clear while avoiding legalese!
You're fine
Can't even get on a walk anymore without the risk of being showered by 100m transfer fees.
So is Mbappe. however...
I would prefer him at United. But, i feel like we could be in the market for someone as good as him next season when casemiro role switches from being a starter
I have to be honest, Chelsea scouting department has been top notch in their acquisition of young talented players and identifying players that suit Pochettino ideology. Even though they have struggled to bring first team player to his team, they are looking at the right players. Caceido is exactly the type of players Pochettino needs, but I feel that a combination of lavia and Caceido is better for him. Caceido isn't really a ball carrier, while lavia is. And Pochettino has always had those type of ball carriers in his team from midfield. Ideally for Pochettino
---------------------------Lavia
------------------Caceido - enzo
Kudus(cherki/felix) ------ nkunku/mudryk
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But I can see it being
Caceido - Enzo
Olise - nkunku - mudryk
Jackson
Wish the Bayern talk was real. Don’t want him at Liverpool.
He is quality where ever he goes, it's for a reason that he quoted to be a 100m player.
Many thanks for the explanation!
You are most welcome, I just wish my post was pinned though because this time tomorrow it’ll be the same thing again.
Great to have your insights about Brighton on here.
Happy to contribute. This is the only opposition forum I post on because the posters here are a lot more interesting and informed. The Shed End is a disaster, for instance. That said, every time the same misinformation is repeated I am going to correct it when I personally know it to be factually wrong!
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If Liverpool were able to get Caicedo that would be a massive coup and better than any other signing they could have wished for in that position. That would give them a very strong first XI albeit weak depth in midfield and defence.
It would also be bizarre and ironic at the same time that they pulled out of the race for Bellingham due to the cost being too high but could end up signing someone who cost more than Bellingham went for.
Chelsea really are like us of old if they somehow don’t manage to get this one over the line.
There’s a reason the Chelsea fans here are here and not on shed end. It’s awful. But to be honest, most oppo forums I’ve looked at has been a cesspool, Bluemoon being the worst of them all. The caf is genuinely one of a kind.
He is very much a 100m player in current market.
It is only natural!
We should throw our hat in the ring. Cheeky 80m bid.
I guess that was before they found out that Saudi clubs were willing to take their top earners off their wage bill and pay an obscene transfer fee on top of that.
Liverpool couldn’t get Bellingham, but can pay Brighton 100m?
to what end?
Bellingham wanted Madrid, it never got as far as Liverpool bidding because Madrid were ready to meet the asking price before the window opened and the player said that was his preferred outcome. It was a formality and so Liverpool ended up not even wasting their time with an offer.
Mac Allister and Caicedo reunion? They’re good but they don’t quite scare me.
Caicedo at Liverpool fills me with dread, unlike Mac Allister.
IMHO he’s a generational talent. One of the best, and getting better. If Liverpool get him I think they have a title shot.
Don't let him join the Scouse
Are Liverpool including a player? No way they beat Boehly
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Hopefully you get him and not Liverpool. Pay them what they want ffs
Boom! I love it when the “generation talent“ chat starts.
One of the worst buzz words in football.
One of the worst buzz words in football.
The player's presence is Chelsea according to Reddy. So it now depends on if Chelsea can do the deal or back away and allow Liverpool to sign him.
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Did think a lot of this was money motivated from the player/people surrounding him. Wanting Chelsea over Liverpool probably backs that up.
Wish we’d have prioritised him over Mount
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