10% of me agrees with you.
I think the club will go down your route anyway. It would be great if he actually ended up being a good manager for us.
Moyes So Far!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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I think the club will go down your route anyway. It would be great if he actually ended up being a good manager for us.
Don't be daft, mate, it makes no difference at all.
To away going fans, you're just another keyboard warrior blowing hot air on the internet.
No better or worse than anyone else on here.
I was just wondering, I know this has probably been brought up, did we by law have to advertise the job, even internally. Surely by just giving the job to someone we didn't allow coaches already at the club or say one outside the club applying. There is a big thing about not enough black managers in the game, yet we didn't even allow anyone else be interviewed. Is that legal under the equality or employment laws.
Impeach Moyes!
Good idea.
I was just wondering, why have these laws if you can just give a job to whoever you fancy, friend or relation if there are actually more qualified out there?We should've got Martinez.
All of this is true but you need to listen to the context. Mitten was saying that "even" matchgoing fans were coming to the end of their tether. He stressed that these were "not the sort to rant on the internet" to put their unhappiness in context. He clearly intended to imply that these were fans who were a lot less likely than most to throw their toys out of the pram if we have a dodgy spell.
It was Nick that brought the caf into it. Not really sure why he felt the need. I think it's much more likely that Mitten meant Facebook whingers and loony tune bloggers. People on here are fairly sensible. Even those I don't agree with.
Read something about Vialli saying Moyes would've been sacked three times in Serie A. To be fair, he would've been sacked three times in the PL too if he were managing any other top club that isn't Man United. In fact, our recent form and style of football since the new year is relegation standard and I'm certain more than 3/4 of PL teams would've sacked him by now. But sigh, we're Man United. We do things the proper way.
The biggest problem the club has, despite the obvious fact that we have taken on a mid table manager who has only been negative, is the Glazers. the summer will show if they are ready and willing to get the club back on top or not. I am not too optimistic though after hearing Ed Woodward saying we do not actually need to win anything, we can still sell shirts and be a success, just look at Liverpool over the years, Bad attitude.
I think that in trying to avoid the failed successions to Busby they have accidently followed it, if you get my drift. By being determined to have someone who "is cut in the same cloth" and not admitting they are wrong they may probably do more damage to the club than the days after Busby. (I do hope I am wrong). No one is cut from the same cloth as SAF, he was one in a kind. They should have acknowledged that and gone in a different direction. Maybe they should have gone all out to get Pep before he went to Munich.
It's partly that, but it's also down to the removed nature of the Glazer ownership. Under SAF they had no need to involve themselves in football matters - just sign the cheques and allow Fergie and Gill to manage the club's affairs.
Now their business interests require them to make a big decision in opposition to Fergie (presumably), and their previous detachment leaves them ill-equipped to do so. What do they really know about football? and who will they turn to for trustworthy advice?
Except he didnt actually say that.
I think Fergie only decided to retire in late December and told Gill about it maybe in February. Pep was appointed mid-January. It just wasn't going to happen.
But I'll tell you, if you see the likes of Pep/Mourinho.Klopp as the level/style of manager you want, your next target is not David Moyes.
They've all gone with that because that's the feeling being given by Woodward. He's on thin ice
Hopefully. I don't know how much thinner it can get though. It could hardly be any more clear he's not the best person to manage this club, not anywhere near.
It's funny that we all once again thought that we'd turned a corner, seeing that exciting team vs Palace win convincingly and play some lovely football at times, only to see that Moyes was resting Young and Valencia for the biggest game of our crumbling season. Madness.
I didnt really think the palace game was all that great to be honest. Up until half time it was another poor display with tension in the air. The only difference was we got a bit of luck in the penalty and we got a bit freer but the overall performance was decent at best.
I disagree about this and I said it at the time (in details, see page 567). We didn't win that convincingly against Palace. We only played really well after the penalty. Before that we didn't create real chances. Watch the game again and you'll be surprised..
However we're mostly influenced by the result and what we see last. The first half against Olympiacos (before the goal) and the first half against Palace were pretty similar. But like a coin flip, we were "lucky" to score first against Palace, and "unlucky" to concede first against Olympiacos.
We also signed Juan Mata. Did we interview other players? Did we give Kevin Nolan a chance to present his resume?
You do not advertise players jobs, but most sensible people would advertise the biggest job in football. I was only asking.
Well any available manager other than Guardiola and maybe Ancelotti (assuming he had a deal with Real in place already) would have loved the job.You do not advertise players jobs, but most sensible people would advertise the biggest job in football. I was only asking.
At the beginning I thought Moyes would be all right. He was a bit bland but nevertheless had a decent if uninspiring record with Everton. I never even entertained the idea that he could turn out this bad.
Yes. I wouldn't call them idiots, but they are (and have taken) decisions/opinions with heart and seems to be more interested to give an example (probably unintentionally) of British supremacy and United way rather than the future of United.
Kagawa and Chicha will be the first players (after Vidic) who will leave and no, we won't improve if Moyes continue being our manager.
I was happy to help
We also know that Fergie is a very stubborn man. He often took time to own up to his mistakes as a manager.Yes. I wouldn't call them idiots, but they are (and have taken) decisions/opinions with heart and seems to be more interested to give an example (probably unintentionally) of British supremacy and United way rather than the future of United.
Kagawa and Chicha will be the first players (after Vidic) who will leave and no, we won't improve if Moyes continue being our manager.
I was happy to help
That's the worst part as I said yesterday - we could quite conceivably lose three very good players for reasons that are purely down to Moyes (Kagawa, van Persie and Hernandez) which would be a significant step back.Yes. I wouldn't call them idiots, but they are (and have taken) decisions/opinions with heart and seems to be more interested to give an example (probably unintentionally) of British supremacy and United way rather than the future of United.
Kagawa and Chicha will be the first players (after Vidic) who will leave and no, we won't improve if Moyes continue being our manager.
I was happy to help
Prime example: Jaap Stamm. Took him 10/11? years to accept he was wrong about selling him. He'll take a lot longer to admit he's wrong about Moyes.
Nani likely too but he has been completely marginalized (when fit) and is always injured. Vidic has already left, Moyes sold Fabio, Evra will likely soon leave and many rumours about Rafael.
If he spends those 150-200m and if that isn't managed well (why someone would think that Moyes will be great in transfer market?) and we lose these good players then for his successor will be much difficult having expensive flops and players like Valencia, Young and Cleverley in his team. Then what to do? The geniuses here would likely say to give a few years and a few hundred millions to the next manager but that won't happen because we don't have unlimited to cash. It can really become ugly if we don't make decisions calmly and rationally.
Agree with that. The Palace performance has been blown out of proportion to some extent.
I did try and calm the excited "turned a corner" posts after palace!
It will take £40m+ to replace these departing players as we will need another #10 or a forward and a back up forward at least and we could do without it.
Kagawa and Hernandez would be absolutely mad to stay beyond this season.
Yep, thats why I want Moyes out before he can do any more damage.
Give this squad to a quality manager, and he'd be chuffed with our attacking options (maybe one extra winger is needed to replace Young/Valencia). If Moyes is allowed to dismantle to squad, then the fall from grace will take even longer to recover from.
As the job was not filled by an internal candidate, then technically it should have been advertised. But the top echelon at companies seem to get away with it, they are mysteriously appointed or head hunted. We could do with an out of work manager such as Keane (!) complaining to an IT that he wasn't given the opportunity to apply for the job!You do not advertise players jobs, but most sensible people would advertise the biggest job in football. I was only asking.
Bad news. I heard today that Moyes is buying a house in Cheshire.
He's off to Macclesfield Town then.
He'll probably spend all summer bidding on a house that isn't even for sale and then at the last minute blow 5m on a pebble-dashed council house...
Big county is Cheshire. Altrincham's in it. Used to be anyway.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ticism-of-evertons-playing-style-8277424.html
A Moyes interview from his days at Goodison. Thought it was quite amusing.
A Moyes interview from his days at Goodison. Thought it was quite amusing.
TBF as I have said in the past, Everton played some good stuff last season. Certainly more entertaining than at any other point in Moyes' reign there.
Alderley Edge actually but the negotiations have been going on for ages and it's still not a done deal. Why am I not surprised.
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