Moyes So Far!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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Not a happy bunny.
Really feel the people behind these interviews have an agenda.
Really feel the people behind these interviews have an agenda.
They won't. The Glazers will end this farce soon, I'm convinced of it. This is £200m we are talking about.
Well that's that then. If we've lost the wig supporters then there's no hope for Moyes.
Aside from just missing out on CL money, the Glazers will be aware that the longer this goes on, the more the united brand (eughh) is associated with a complete loser. A total laughing stock. It's silly things like twitter/facebook parody accounts getting millions of followers that will hurt them commercially as well.
Yeah massive agenda going into work today bad being ripped the p-s out of by City fans.
They should just be happy going to Old Trafford and seeing Liverpool and City walk away with 3-0 wins.
The only agenda they have is wanting United to do better.
OK this speaks for it self:
And 2014 results:
PL
1.jan lost 1-2 vs Tottenham L
11.jan won 2-0 vs Swansea W
19.jan lost 3-1 at Chelsea L
28.jan won 2-0 vs Cardiff W
1.feb lost 1-2 at Stoke L
9.feb drew 2-2 vs Fulham D
12.feb drew 0-0 at Arsenal D
22.feb won 2-0 at Crystal P W
8.mar won 3-0 at WBA W
16.mar lost 3-0 vs Liverpool L
22.mar won 2-0 at West Ham W
25.mar lost 3-0 vs City L
12 matches
Lost 5
Drew 2
Won 5
FA CUP
5.jan lost 2-1 vs Swansea L
1 match
Lost 1
COC(K)
7.jan lost 2-1 at Sunderland L
22.jan won 2-1 vs Sunderland W(L)
LOST in PEN
2 matches
Lost 2
CL
25.feb lost 2-0 at Olympiakos L
19.mar won 3-0 vs Olympiakos W
2 matches
Lost 1
Won 1
So all in all:
17 matches
Lost 9
Drew 2
Won 6
Still think he´s the right man??
And 2014 results:
PL
1.jan lost 1-2 vs Tottenham L
11.jan won 2-0 vs Swansea W
19.jan lost 3-1 at Chelsea L
28.jan won 2-0 vs Cardiff W
1.feb lost 1-2 at Stoke L
9.feb drew 2-2 vs Fulham D
12.feb drew 0-0 at Arsenal D
22.feb won 2-0 at Crystal P W
8.mar won 3-0 at WBA W
16.mar lost 3-0 vs Liverpool L
22.mar won 2-0 at West Ham W
25.mar lost 3-0 vs City L
12 matches
Lost 5
Drew 2
Won 5
FA CUP
5.jan lost 2-1 vs Swansea L
1 match
Lost 1
COC(K)
7.jan lost 2-1 at Sunderland L
22.jan won 2-1 vs Sunderland W(L)
LOST in PEN
2 matches
Lost 2
CL
25.feb lost 2-0 at Olympiakos L
19.mar won 3-0 vs Olympiakos W
2 matches
Lost 1
Won 1
So all in all:
17 matches
Lost 9
Drew 2
Won 6
Still think he´s the right man??
I have decided. 12-0 vs Bayern loss on aggregate would see him lose his job.
I'm all for it.
I'm all for it.
I just cant believe it. How can a club to fall so far from grace in less than 12 months and the manager not be under any pressure. A decline should not be so rapid. We are a laughing stock.
Van Gaal then mate. We need a top drawer manager used to holding the reigns at a big team. Moyes isn't that.
Sack the goblin, sack the goblin, he's let the scousers back on top, we've a squad that's full of Champions and he'll sell the fookin lot.
I think one of the most damning things about Moyes' tenure has been the total lack of a response after the pre-game and half time team talks. We often play worse after half time and often start games slowly.
You look at City last night and Liverpool last week and it's clear they've been motivated, they've been told to start on the front foot and put some immediate pressure on us, like greyhounds out of the trap. Last night we were fortunately only 1-0 down at half time, that's where a manager earns his money. We were given the chance to start the second half as they started the first and really get at them. We looked like our half time team talk consisted of a few pats on the back and a few laughs.
Clearly Moyes is unable to motivate these player's. Whether that's because he is a poor manager or whether the player's have completely given up on him after the last 9 months is up for debate. Either of these only really have one ending though.
You look at City last night and Liverpool last week and it's clear they've been motivated, they've been told to start on the front foot and put some immediate pressure on us, like greyhounds out of the trap. Last night we were fortunately only 1-0 down at half time, that's where a manager earns his money. We were given the chance to start the second half as they started the first and really get at them. We looked like our half time team talk consisted of a few pats on the back and a few laughs.
Clearly Moyes is unable to motivate these player's. Whether that's because he is a poor manager or whether the player's have completely given up on him after the last 9 months is up for debate. Either of these only really have one ending though.
Yes, we are all undoubtedly under the impression that Moyes is not cut out for this level of job. But I feel for him, I really do. He is not a bad manager, he is just not suited to this size club. But his appointment was done in the wrong way. The board messed up. Fergie wanted to appoint Moyes, it was the Boards place to say "we will take your opinion into consideration and we will interview him, but we will be advertising the job."
For all we know, they could have approached Moyes for an interview and he may have said no. We will never know that. Moyes was pretty much thrown in the deep end in being told that he is the next United manager, he had no real choice, as its been said by a few people that he would regret it for the rest of his life if he didnt take it. He should have been offered an interview...not the job outright.
For all we know, they could have approached Moyes for an interview and he may have said no. We will never know that. Moyes was pretty much thrown in the deep end in being told that he is the next United manager, he had no real choice, as its been said by a few people that he would regret it for the rest of his life if he didnt take it. He should have been offered an interview...not the job outright.
"Advertising the job"?
In the MEN perhaps?
In the MEN perhaps?
you obviously know I don't mean in the bloody newspaper...but they do make it known that the position is available and ask for people to make their interest known.
I think Jose did and we fecked him off. Rightly or wrongly. It was quite well known that Ferguson was leaving.
Yeah, so where is the list of other people who were interested...it wasn't only Jose. And that is also down to Bobby Charlton...because he doesn't like him, so great, we have Moyes because the Board doesn't want to go against Fergie and Charlton...great.
Not amongst the players, by all accounts. The club seemed to go to great lengths to stop anyone knowing Fergie was going to retire, after what happened the first time.
I agree that advertising the post would be daft though. You wouldn't put out an advertisement for a senior position like this in any industry.
ok, maybe advertising was the wrong word to use, but it is pretty easy to make managers aware that the club is accepting applications if they wish to put their interest forward
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I don't know if the Bayern game will change anything. We aren't expected to win. I don't believe that expectation would change if SAF himself were still in charge.
They do gang up on people dont they, Wenger will keep his job and has done Jack!
Yeah, but if we get humiliated and play really badly, it could change the tide.
(this is me more hoping than anything)
I still reckon that because they know nothing about football, they will accept Fergie and Sir Bobby telling them "it could have happened to any manager, he just needs a little more time". And I really fear it. I doubt he'll survive a season year like that, but one? Yeah...
Anyone think if Villa get something against us and Bayern tonk us there'll be serious thoughts to Moyes getting the boot?
Can't really judge him on the Bayern match if we lose, there's no expectations. He should be judged on the whole season.
The alarm bells started in pre season, when we were losing to Mickey Mouse teams. Folks always take pre season games seriously!
They do know about sports management in general, though. I think they'll listen to what SAF/Sir Bobby say but won't be afraid to ignore them.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised at all if SAF himself is running out of patience - no matter what he says to the contrary.
Hopefully. Bayern will tonk us fwiw. I expect an aggregate of around 5 goals.
Really? That's optimistic. I'm thinking 8-0. Bet you Jones will get himself injured vs Villa and we'll end up having to play Rio.
If Bayern don't tonk us then they have either played badly or are being kind to us! The later is more probable.....
No, I expect a 3-0 drubbing at home and then them just relaxing after putting a couple past us at the Allianz Arena.
Yeah, could go that way. If we piss them off by putting in a couple nasty challenges(I'm looking at you, Rafael and Fellaini) they could choose to put up a cricket score.
I think we could be the downfall of Bayern. They had it so easy in the league and will against us. That they might get a shock in the semi finals, when they face a decent team.
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