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I don't what the basis for that claim may have been, but it might be possible if the military has a huge hold in society. Like in Iran, where the Revolutionary Guard basically owns or controls large parts of Iran's economy. Without context, it might then be the case that an ungodly percentage of Iran's government expenditures go towards the Revolutionary Guard - but relatively little of that would actually be for defense purposes.That will be nonsense. They’ll almost certainly be one of the biggest spenders, if not the biggest, on military as a percentage of GDP though. Still won’t be anywhere near to almost all though. Maybe a fifth at most? Probably fluctuates quite a bit too. Don’t forget they still provide things like free healthcare + education including university
What's happened?Dead again?
Coma, dead or eaten by the sister. Too early to tell.I don't what the basis for that claim may have been, but it might be possible if the military has a huge hold in society. Like in Iran, where the Revolutionary Guard basically owns or controls large parts of Iran's economy. Without context, it might then be the case that an ungodly percentage of Iran's government expenditures go towards the Revolutionary Guard - but relatively little of that would actually be for defense purposes.
No idea how that.mighy apply to North Korea, but I wouldn't be surprised is the military similarly pervades society.
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Big meal that'd be.Coma, dead or eaten by the sister. Too early to tell.
I'm sure the doggies get their share.Big meal that'd be.
Or he could have gorged on dog. Crazy stories been circulating around re: private dog confiscation to bolster RPK’s national meat supply.Big meal that'd be.
Clearly, they need aid. So time to blow something up.Oh ffs can this fat little twat go one week without being a fat little twat?!
I think you've got this thread mixed up with the James Corden one.Oh ffs can this fat little twat go one week without being a fat little twat?!
I see there was another little speech from dear leader earlier, with chants of "We love you" from his ****.
Edit: Oops meant to post this in the Trump thread.
It looks like a prop from Superman 3.
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Im not sure - I mean how do you do that without hurting South Korea - let alone what the reactions will be from China / Russia given their proximity and the likely humanitarian impact of a collapsed NK state on their doorstepI reckon if any superpower thought for one second that a missile launch was imminent, North Korea would be wiped off the map.
I think it would be fair to say that NK are not going to launch anything at all - because they know the repercussions would be so severe right? NK are not going to be "wiped off the map" before they have done anything, but *if* they lobbed a missile into Europe or the US then surely they would be toast before Kim has time to swallow his morning burger?Im not sure - I mean how do you do that without hurting South Korea - let alone what the reactions will be from China / Russia given their proximity and the likely humanitarian impact of a collapsed NK state on their doorstep
And lets be blunt NK are not likley to launch their missiles at China or Russia so to them the biggest threat is the humanitarian issues (likley mass migrations due to starvation) and potentially America trying to establish a military presence on their border
Geo-politically I find it hard to imagine that at least 2 of the security council five would sanction military action and I doubt they would sit by and let America take unilateral action
I could see a retaliatory strike yes - provided it was targeted at the regime - I could see people pushing for regime change and succeedingI think it would be fair to say that NK are not going to launch anything at all - because they know the repercussions would be so severe right? NK are not going to be "wiped off the map" before they have done anything, but *if* they lobbed a missile into Europe or the US then surely they would be toast before Kim has time to swallow his morning burger?
As you say if the situation became untenable China would have boots on the ground very quickly and that would be the end of the NK regime. They won't allow other parties to act first but they won't be forced into it either.I could see a retaliatory strike yes - provided it was targeted at the regime - I could see people pushing for regime change and succeeding
And I could see China quickly assisting in putting in place a pro chinese regime and telling the USA stay out of it
If the USA didnt agree to that then I dont know how bad it would go
If the USA Nuked several cities its hard to see how that wouldnt impact Russia and China (nuclear fallout etc and as i say probably a massive humanitarian crisis) and frankly i dont see them both being ok with that
indeed - ultimately they would be seeking to ensure NK remains a buffer state under chinese influence rather than risk a united korea that allows usa militray bases ... the key question will be would the USA allow that and what happens if USA strikes target NK nuclear sites after the chinese have secured them - that could escalate very quicklyAs you say if the situation became untenable China would have boots on the ground very quickly and that would be the end of the NK regime. They won't allow other parties to act first but they won't be forced into it either.
I expect China have full sight of the regimes actions and have plans to strike first should NK ever act.
if its a fully operational death star Id expect a test soon... my gut feel is just after the USA election (hopefully poping int into the ocean rather than a full on alderanNK does not have any first strike capability so anything they have can only be used as a deterrent. They have gone for mobile launchers first which is smart, since they can be concealed much more easily than the other installations (except SLBMs). But, we of course do not know if their ICBMs are already operational or still elaborate mockups.
The film features an out-of-work Danish chef fascinated by communist dictatorships; a Spanish nobleman and North Korean propagandist with a penchant for military uniform; and a former French legionnaire and convicted cocaine dealer who plays the part of an international man of mystery.
If the Koreas were to seriously consider reuniting, surely that would come with extensive negotiations, part of which would be a rock-hard clause about banning foreign powers from having a military presence in the united country. That would work for the US and China, I'd think.indeed - ultimately they would be seeking to ensure NK remains a buffer state under chinese influence rather than risk a united korea that allows usa militray bases ... the key question will be would the USA allow that and what happens if USA strikes target NK nuclear sites after the chinese have secured them - that could escalate very quickly
Just saw it and it's brilliant and absurd, just like Mads Brüggers two previous films: The Red Chapel and The Ambassador.
The South Koreans do want peace on their peninsula. It is the Americans who are refusing to even let the South Koreans sign a peace treaty. The US is insisting that North Korea destroys its nuclear weapons before a peace treaty is signed. North Korea wants a peace treaty signed before destroying their weapons. If the South Koreans are willing to do that( And they are) I do not know what that has got to do with the USA? The North Koreans are willing not to have foreign troops in the Korean peninsula. The operational control of the South Korean forces is under the US in a war time. This is the other issue.If the Koreas were to seriously consider reuniting, surely that would come with extensive negotiations, part of which would be a rock-hard clause about banning foreign powers from having a military presence in the united country. That would work for the US and China, I'd think.
In the meantime, I agree that North Korea is very unlikely to go nuts due to whichever US president. China wouldn't want the chaos and uncertainty across the border, the US wouldn't want it cause they can't guarantee that there'd be no deaths and damage on American soil, and NK know they'd be wiped off the map.
That thread is great
What was this? It’s deleted now.
The guy who is running the DPRK parody account said he was quitting.What was this? It’s deleted now.
That is a shame.The guy who is running the DPRK parody account said he was quitting.
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I can't read the full article, but I think I get the idea from the first few paragraphs. Weren't (some? all?) rural areas of North Korea already experiencing famines, or similar situations? That can't be getting better now. We might well hear about mass deaths due to the circumstances (not even COVID-19 itself) in a couple of years from now. (But I'm sure Kim Jong-Un is limiting his whisky intake in solidarity.)Tweet
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Yeah, North Korea's economy has been hit hard. The borders are closed and trade is almost at a standstill.
Yet the Won has gained almost 40% against the Yuan and 13% against the U.S Dollar in recent weeks. The North Koreans use all three currencies on a daily basis.
Presumably the Kim regime is limiting the amount of Won in circulation and Won credit, increasing it's FX value.
North Korea was hit by floods earlier in the year. Particularly in the rural areas. It has been a problem for years.I can't read the full article, but I think I get the idea from the first few paragraphs. Weren't (some? all?) rural areas of North Korea already experiencing famines, or similar situations? That can't be getting better now. We might well hear about mass deaths due to the circumstances (not even COVID-19 itself) in a couple of years from now. (But I'm sure Kim Jong-Un is limiting his whisky intake in solidarity.)
I was surprised to see tourism mentioned as a significant economic factor though. I know visits are possible now, but I thought that was so limited that it could have any noticeable economic impact. I guess I'm wrong? Maybe I'm overlooking Chinese tourism?
Thanks. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if mass deaths were (going to be) happening in the countryside due to famine...North Korea was hit by floods earlier in the year. Particularly in the rural areas. It has been a problem for years.
Beyond COVID itself, it certainly can't be easy for the North Koreans.
I presume the border closures and the absence of trade has resulted in the price of food rising. Especially imported foods.
Also, there is a risk with the strengthened Won. When the border reopens it could result in panic buying of FX collapsing the Won and bringing on hyperinflation.