I know, shocking. It's just the 'FAHCT' that he's been thinking about this since November and made a list that makes it all the more brilliant.
OMG.. Has anyone seen Rafa's Friday press conference?
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Shocking. If Fergie came out with a rant like that (not that he would, cos he knows how to deal with the pressure of a title challenge, and doesn't tend to read shitty little irrelevant facts off a notepad that refer to LAST season), then he would be up on an FA charge!
Full Transcript...
"I was surprised by what has been said, but maybe they [Manchester United] are nervous because we are at the top of the table.
"But I want to talk about facts. I want to be clear, I do not want to play mind games too early, although they seem to want to start. But I have seen some facts. On November 1, they played Hull and Mr Ferguson had a two-match touchline ban and a £10,000 fine after confronting Mike Dean, the referee, for improper conduct.
"We started the Respect campaign, and that was when [Javier] Mascherano was sent off [last season] at Old Trafford. The referee [Steve Bennett] was the referee when they played against Wigan - he could not see the handball against Wigan by Rio Ferdinand, he did not give a penalty. They won the game and they won the title in this game. I think it will be the same referee who will be in charge of their game in hand this season [against Wigan].
"During the Respect campaign - and this is a fact - Mr Ferguson was charged by the FA for improper conduct after comments made about Martin Atkinson and Keith Hackett. He was not punished. He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things.
"Then he was talking about the fixtures. Two years ago we were playing a lot of early kick-offs away on Saturdays when United were playing on Sundays. And we didn't say anything. Now he is complaining about everything, that everybody is against United. But the second half of the season will see them playing at home against all the teams at the top of the table, it is a fantastic advantage.
"But at Christmas, United played on the 29th and the rest of the teams played on the 28th. We were away against Newcastle two days after playing Bolton. They were playing about 40 hours later, they were not complaining then.
"And about his behaviour with referees. The Southampton manager he knows how Mr Ferguson works and how he works, he was very clear. I am not playing mind games, just facts.
"If he wants to talk about fixtures, and have a level playing field as you say in England. There are two options if we don't want more problems with fixtures. One is the same as in Spain, the draw for the first part of the league is known, everyone knows which weekend. In the second-half everyone plays the opposite, so you all know. Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.
"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple.
"We know what happens every time we go to Old Trafford and the United staff. They are always going man to man with the referees, especially at half-time when they walk close to the referees and they are talking and talking.
"All managers need to know is that only Mr Ferguson can talk about the fixtures, can talk about referees and nothing happens.
"We need to know that I am taking about facts, not my impression. There are things that everyone can see every single week.
"Are they under pressure? Maybe they were not thinking that we would be at the top of the table in January. But we are at the top of the table and they are nervous.
"I am not telling the authorities what to do. But I have been here for five years and know how things are going on. I will be watching United's game with Chelsea. The result does not matter to us, if we win at Stoke that result does not matter.
"I was surprised United wanted to start the mind games too early, maybe it is because we are top of the table. But I only wanted to explain our position.
"It is a massive difference to play early on a Saturday, say, after a European match in midweek. But they will play the second half of the season with home matches against the other top teams, and that is a massive advantage to them.
"They cannot complain about the fixtures after they were playing on December 29 while the rest played on the 28th.
"I have decided that I had a lot of information and I have been watching every single week what has been going on. Then they started talking about us, but every single week we know they will be talking. But we want to stay at the top and maybe they will talk about us right to the end.
"To hear someone talking when he has problems with referees every single week, and now complaining about the fixtures and complaining about everything, I think that is not fair.
"You can see every single week how they put (referees) under pressure, we know this. We have seen it before. We have seen players sent off at Old Trafford and we do not see our opponents sent off. It is part of the game. But to complain and to always have an advantage is not fair.
"We had a meeting in Manchester with managers and FA about the Respect campaign. And I was very clear, forget the campaign because Mr Ferguson was killing the referees, killing Mr Atkinson, killing Mr Hackett. But he is not punished. How can you talk about the respect campaign and criticise the referee every single week? You can analyse the facts and come to your own decision and ideas."
"I was surprised by what has been said, but maybe they [Manchester United] are nervous because we are at the top of the table.
"But I want to talk about facts. I want to be clear, I do not want to play mind games too early, although they seem to want to start. But I have seen some facts. On November 1, they played Hull and Mr Ferguson had a two-match touchline ban and a £10,000 fine after confronting Mike Dean, the referee, for improper conduct.
"We started the Respect campaign, and that was when [Javier] Mascherano was sent off [last season] at Old Trafford. The referee [Steve Bennett] was the referee when they played against Wigan - he could not see the handball against Wigan by Rio Ferdinand, he did not give a penalty. They won the game and they won the title in this game. I think it will be the same referee who will be in charge of their game in hand this season [against Wigan].
"During the Respect campaign - and this is a fact - Mr Ferguson was charged by the FA for improper conduct after comments made about Martin Atkinson and Keith Hackett. He was not punished. He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things.
"Then he was talking about the fixtures. Two years ago we were playing a lot of early kick-offs away on Saturdays when United were playing on Sundays. And we didn't say anything. Now he is complaining about everything, that everybody is against United. But the second half of the season will see them playing at home against all the teams at the top of the table, it is a fantastic advantage.
"But at Christmas, United played on the 29th and the rest of the teams played on the 28th. We were away against Newcastle two days after playing Bolton. They were playing about 40 hours later, they were not complaining then.
"And about his behaviour with referees. The Southampton manager he knows how Mr Ferguson works and how he works, he was very clear. I am not playing mind games, just facts.
"If he wants to talk about fixtures, and have a level playing field as you say in England. There are two options if we don't want more problems with fixtures. One is the same as in Spain, the draw for the first part of the league is known, everyone knows which weekend. In the second-half everyone plays the opposite, so you all know. Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.
"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple.
"We know what happens every time we go to Old Trafford and the United staff. They are always going man to man with the referees, especially at half-time when they walk close to the referees and they are talking and talking.
"All managers need to know is that only Mr Ferguson can talk about the fixtures, can talk about referees and nothing happens.
"We need to know that I am taking about facts, not my impression. There are things that everyone can see every single week.
"Are they under pressure? Maybe they were not thinking that we would be at the top of the table in January. But we are at the top of the table and they are nervous.
"I am not telling the authorities what to do. But I have been here for five years and know how things are going on. I will be watching United's game with Chelsea. The result does not matter to us, if we win at Stoke that result does not matter.
"I was surprised United wanted to start the mind games too early, maybe it is because we are top of the table. But I only wanted to explain our position.
"It is a massive difference to play early on a Saturday, say, after a European match in midweek. But they will play the second half of the season with home matches against the other top teams, and that is a massive advantage to them.
"They cannot complain about the fixtures after they were playing on December 29 while the rest played on the 28th.
"I have decided that I had a lot of information and I have been watching every single week what has been going on. Then they started talking about us, but every single week we know they will be talking. But we want to stay at the top and maybe they will talk about us right to the end.
"To hear someone talking when he has problems with referees every single week, and now complaining about the fixtures and complaining about everything, I think that is not fair.
"You can see every single week how they put (referees) under pressure, we know this. We have seen it before. We have seen players sent off at Old Trafford and we do not see our opponents sent off. It is part of the game. But to complain and to always have an advantage is not fair.
"We had a meeting in Manchester with managers and FA about the Respect campaign. And I was very clear, forget the campaign because Mr Ferguson was killing the referees, killing Mr Atkinson, killing Mr Hackett. But he is not punished. How can you talk about the respect campaign and criticise the referee every single week? You can analyse the facts and come to your own decision and ideas."
RAWK 
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=235426.msg5232094#msg5232094
I don't see how this can backfire. Does anyone seriously think, for example, that if Nando is faced with a chance in the penalty area and suddenly thinks "feck rafa had a go at Fergie, I'm not sure I can slot this away anymore". Of course not. Rafa is telling the truth and he's not the excessively emotional types; he'll have thought about this response and wouldn't do it if he seriously thought it would be detrimental.
Can't argue with logic like that.
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=235426.msg5232094#msg5232094
I don't see how this can backfire. Does anyone seriously think, for example, that if Nando is faced with a chance in the penalty area and suddenly thinks "feck rafa had a go at Fergie, I'm not sure I can slot this away anymore". Of course not. Rafa is telling the truth and he's not the excessively emotional types; he'll have thought about this response and wouldn't do it if he seriously thought it would be detrimental.
Can't argue with logic like that.
More and more scousers talking sense in there (in amongst the OMG RAFA PWNED SAF LOLZ!!! numb-nuts)You can check the rest yourself, there's 7 pages of it so far
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=235426.0
And one absolutely prize fecking retard had this to say
Scousers.Rafa knocks Fergie off his perch
I like it when he says "I was taking some fats" at the beginning. Explains a lot. "Maaaaindgames", also amusing.
And that manuscript says 'nervous wreck' like nobody's business.
Glad to see you are falling right into it Rafa.
Fearful? Nah, I'm sure you just said that because you are so relaxed about being top that you sometimes forget what you do for a living mate.
Fearful? Nah, I'm sure you just said that because you are so relaxed about being top that you sometimes forget what you do for a living mate.
benitez has played right in to fergies hands. The pressure is showing 1 0 to fergie
he's done exactly what Fergie wanted
He's always been obsessed with us and Fergie, just look at how often he talks about our transfers and the fees, fees he's sat at home and calculated himself.
He's a full-blown tosser.
He is special.
Special needs.
Special needs.
I'd agree with that. Serious echoes of Keegan there. I am amazed at how obsessed he is. This could be a signicant turning point. I'd say this has given Fergie a cheeky chuckle !!
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Exactly. Oh deary deary me, Rafa.He really does look like a lawyer
Poor man doesn't sound well. Oh dear. We might have to start a Keep Rafa Alive campaign.
What's really amazing (and pleasing) is the fact he's not under any real pressure yet. Months to go in the season and United are still a fair bit off the pace.
At this rate he's gonna go fecking loolah by April/May.
Love the thought of SAF sitting in front of SSN with a glass of fine claret, grinning
At this rate he's gonna go fecking loolah by April/May.
Love the thought of SAF sitting in front of SSN with a glass of fine claret, grinning
That is ridiculous contradictory tripe!
he would do better to keep quite and let his team do the talking.
My brother seems to think that this is great when i told him that on RAWK it isnt going down well he tried to come up with the excuse Man United fans post on there as well!
contradictory tripe!he would do better to keep quite and let his team do the talking.
My brother seems to think that this is great when i told him that on RAWK it isnt going down well he tried to come up with the excuse Man United fans post on there as well!
I like where he says:
"Then he was talking about the fixtures. Two years ago we were playing a lot of early kick-offs away on Saturdays when United were playing on Sundays. And we didn't say anything.
"Now he is complaining about everything, that everybody is against United.
But the second half of the season will see them playing at home against all the
teams at the top of the table, it is a fantastic advantage."
Obviously his comments are in response to Sir Alex saying that United were disadvantaged in the first part of the year because of the schedule.
So if Rafa thinks our 2nd half of the season gives us a "fantastic advantage", then where is the problem with Sir Alex saying the first half put us at a disadvantage.
Amazing viewing...although it does feel like you're staring at a car crash
"Then he was talking about the fixtures. Two years ago we were playing a lot of early kick-offs away on Saturdays when United were playing on Sundays. And we didn't say anything.
"Now he is complaining about everything, that everybody is against United.
But the second half of the season will see them playing at home against all the
teams at the top of the table, it is a fantastic advantage."
Obviously his comments are in response to Sir Alex saying that United were disadvantaged in the first part of the year because of the schedule.
So if Rafa thinks our 2nd half of the season gives us a "fantastic advantage", then where is the problem with Sir Alex saying the first half put us at a disadvantage.
Amazing viewing...although it does feel like you're staring at a car crash
"I hhham no' talking bout mind ghames, I am talking about fact. Fact. FACT."What's really amazing (and pleasing) is the fact he's not under any real pressure yet. Months to go in the season and United are still a fair bit off the pace.
At this rate he's gonna go fecking loolah by April/May.
Love the thought of SAF sitting in front of SSN with a glass of fine claret, grinning
Rafa just went up a notch in my estimation.
And I'll tell ya, I'll tell ya another thing-a nervy manager puts the shits up his players. At this rate, he'll cut off his ear by March.
This deserves a gif Top, think of something.
There are no mind games, Fergie always wins them!
I hope this is the beginning of the end of Liverpool in the title race.
I hope this is the beginning of the end of Liverpool in the title race.
He's made a complete tit of himselfHe is their Messiah. Sadly, the deluded cnuts have no idea that the media is lapping this up and having the time of their lives. You literally cannot make this up.
"I hhham no' talking bout mind ghames, I am talking about fact. Fact. FACT."
Rafa just went up a notch in my estimation.
At this rate, he'll cut off his ear by March.
Dont now if this is a rant or a tatical move at this point to try and put pressure on us from officals.Liverpool are obviously desperate to win the title and are prepared to say/do anything to win it.I think his words were thought out rather than KKs off the cuff remarks.Surely the FA must also look at his words as they are bordering on bringing him into disrepute.Rafa might find however that by opening up a war of words he is doing so with the master and Sir Alex will be enjoying this
At the start of the conference, he sounded like he was saying FARTS instead of facts"I hhham no' talking bout mind ghames, I am talking about fact. Fact. FACT."
Rafa just went up a notch in my estimation.
At this rate, he'll cut off his ear by March.
The best thing about the entire episode is that all Fergie has to do to respond is have a little smile when asked about it and Rafa will look an even bigger bellend..
Fergie is not just a manager, but a psycholgist.
Rafa has fallen into the trap, he's not in the same league as SIR Alex
Rafa has fallen into the trap, he's not in the same league as SIR Alex
Yep, so if you him laughing you'll know why.
Oh he probably thinks he's being tactical, what with the Chelsea game at the weekend. The bloke is fecking obsessed with tactics after all (tactics and United, it seems) Thing is, he's taken it too far and his delivery was so poor that all he's achieved is make himself look like a bell-end.
If anything this will be counter-productive, regarding the weekend's game. He's just written Fergie's team-talk
He'll be asked about it post Chelsea game, I hope we win so that SAF enjoy it more and we as well.
He is making accusations is he not that Alex influenced Officals since when are you allowed to do that
For doing what exactly - making everyone feel pain from laughing so much!
If anything this will be counter-productive, regarding the weekend's game. He's just written Fergie's team-talk
"Look at what benitez said. You're gonna stand for that? Give chelsea a hiding!"
Maybe you think he'll post it in the dressing room too.
RAWK
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=235426.msg5232094#msg5232094
I don't see how this can backfire. Does anyone seriously think, for example, that if Nando is faced with a chance in the penalty area and suddenly thinks "feck rafa had a go at Fergie, I'm not sure I can slot this away anymore". Of course not. Rafa is telling the truth and he's not the excessively emotional types; he'll have thought about this response and wouldn't do it if he seriously thought it would be detrimental.
Mmm spicy chicken
fergie is a legend
FAHCT
FAHCT
Dying for Fergies response!!!!!
CMONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN (ala cartman waiting on a Wii)
CMONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN (ala cartman waiting on a Wii)
He's losing it
good.....good
good.....good
Exactly what I think,he is trying to be smart and making an ass of himself,againOh he probably thinks he's being tactical, what with the Chelsea game at the weekend. The bloke is fecking obsessed with tactics after all (tactics and United, it seems) Thing is, he's taken it too far and his delivery was so poor that all he's achieved is make himself look like a bell-end.
If anything this will be counter-productive, regarding the weekend's game. He's just written Fergie's team-talk