I think the team who've just won the league with the best defensive record in the division know a thing or two about defending.
Terry has had plenty of dodgy moments. Varane is a class above current day (note, this is the key) Terry.
Terry would probably be ripped apart playing in the Madrid defence
Its not far from the truth. Under AVB our defence looked shocking due to us playing a line so high even Pete Doherty couldnt finish it.
Was referring to you saying what Chelsea need to do defensively. Last season suggests their approach is working just fine. Got knocked out of CL because of set piece marking/individual marking 'mistakes' rather than their overall approach before you pull that up.
This is not meant to sound rude but I'm not sure what the point is...
That Varane is better
We'll never know.
I said their defensive approach suits Terry but negatively impacts on how they control games. How do you not get that? I'm not saying they have a leaky defence, I'm saying their entire system ensures that Terry is well protected. He plays his part, but the system that's built around overcoming his limitations doesn't help them own the pitch.
Cowardice? You're a joke.
You were a man up early on against PSG and didn't even bother attacking. That's cowardice.Cowardice? You're a joke.
I wouldn't bother. Mourinho and his 'pragmatic tactics' are still lauded around here, for the most part.
You actually said...
Cowardice? You're a joke.
Hard to say it, but he's right. We were cowards the entire match. Our tactics were devoted to just keeping the score at 0-0, and hoping we nick a goal towards the end -- we nearly did it too.
Ridiculously cowardly approach to that game, most definitely. Shit the bed big time.Cowardice? You're a joke.
No, They can buy another 4 non HG players and still be within limits. Chelsea first team has just 13 players that take up a nonHG/Over21 spot.
Ahh thanks. Didn't realise Begovic was HG
Bullshit. You can argue against pragmatism, but called a tactical approach 'cowardice' is just fecking ridiculous, especially when its coming from a coach who has no problems making early substitutions, playing seemingly reserve lineups in important matches and putting his reputation on the line repeatedly. Cowardice? Ridiculous. You even say yourself that the tactical approach came very close to working.
I agree that having Terry in the team makes it hard for them to have a more pro-active approach. More pace in their backline would improve them a great deal. It is difficult for them to impose themselves on a lot of games as they have to sit back and defend deep as well as have plenty of protection in front of their back four due to them not being the quickest (Terry in particular). Having quicker defenders would improve them in a lot of ways and would give a lot more freedom to their players in midfield and attack as they would not have to work as hard defensively because the defenders would not be so vulnerable if they are exposed in one on ones against pacey attackers. Also, when your backline is pushed up it makes it easier to control games and to keep the ball and move it around in dangerous areas and quicker defenders will mean they will not be so susceptible to counter attacks if they play this way even if their defenders are high up the pitch. Ramos and Pepe allowed Madrid to play this way under Mourinho and they were much more attack minded than his Chelsea are and they did not concede control of the game as many times as Chelsea do.
Your almost as bad as Fergie(''You could've of killed him'')
Oh! That is really bad(I was thinking of the diving header). Now I'm going to sound like a right arsehole but that just fecking stupid and dangerous from Terry, it's Phil Jones levels of not give a shit about your own safety.
What the feck is wrong with me? First of all, before you question my sense, let just make it clear before I say anything else that I was discussing this match alone, without considering . I'm not sure what you're trying to do by crying that I was condemning Terry for putting his head first, or labeling Mourinho with the word cowardice despite going against the odds -- so understand it was none of that. My second point was about pragmatism. While some may say pragmatism is cowardice (as Bob did), I would obviously disagree. But in some cases, as against PSG, I can't. Even with that being said, the approach against PSG was not pragmatic, nor was it an approach that showed any spirit, in fact it was the opposite of that. From my own view, and I'm sure a lot of supporters would have agreed, it was cowardice. I just want to be true to myself regardless of what other fans my think, and for me, it's extremely hard to deny that our approach was cowardly, and I firmly think it was gutless compared to what this team can do. Did it look like to you that we were actually trying? We were spineless, gutless and heartless. However, we were lucky to play against 10 men anyway, had Ibra still been on the field, we would have probably been embarrassed. The players even thought they had it easy, some of them literally walking about the pitch while the ball is in play -- as a fan, I have to question that. We lacked intensity, nobody showed any craft, no astuteness and most disappointingly, there seemed to be a lack of willingness to grab hold of the tie.
You're probably right, but it's a perfect summary of how he's always put himself on the line for the team. No matter how much people hate him, if you ever want to know why Chelsea fans practically worship him that video basically sums it up. It still gives me shivers to this day, its the only time I've ever watched a game of football and genuinely thought a player had died. truly horrible, horrible day.
Ignore me, I shouldn't post drunk, it just makes me super defensive.
It's John stossel
But yes your right. The courage it must John ''Brave Heart'' Terry to give racist abuse to a fellow professional or the courage it took to sleep with fellow professional girlfriend. A truly England's Brave Heart.
Ok just Mourinho left
But setting a side all of that, the tactics against PSG weren't cowardice just stupid.
Im in agreement with this really. In hindsight after the match when the emotions had calmed down it was a very unusual and disturbing match. An anomally for us, but one that will be brought up forever and ever because, its Jose.
Meh, it'll be forgotten two minutes after he wins his next CL.
Yep, if the ref followed the rules he could really have sent Terry off for that if I recall them correctly.
Definitely is the level of player we need, would be a starter.
If he is in the starting 11 then we would have regressed from last season. No where near our first team quality.
You sound hard to please. Only the world's best young defender and the world's best young midfielder with a very good attacker thrown in would leave you content with Chelsea's transfer dealings?
In whose place?
Willian?
