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Maybe they should make all CB's start out as midfielders, would be for the better. Case study: Paddy McNair
I'd say Rio Ferdinand is a better example.Maybe they should make all CB's start out as midfielders, would be for the better. Case study: Paddy McNair
LVG must really see something in him, because before his debut it was barely plausible that he'd debut before Thorpe. I think it's a good sign, there must be something about him that LVG really rates and wants to work with.How did he get ahead of Thorpe in the pecking order? Im curious
It's not laughable when you've got exactly those players to compare to. Remind yourself at how good Jones and Smalling were at that age. What kind of performance they were capable of, Jones especially. Jones played 28 PL games when he was younger than them. He was frankly better than them. McNair has been good but Jones was better. Injuries have not been kind to him but those two need to make a big progress to get to his standard.Laughable also considering how inconsistent or at times downright shite Smalling/Jones/Evans have been this season when they've played.
Blackett and McNair have essentially a free pass from me given their age but McNair has impressed me just as much as any of our centre backs.
got to agree with you about his calmness. sometimes he does hoof the ball unnecessarily under no pressure but he does look calm most of the time.The thing I like so far, is the fact he never seem's flustered. Jones still has that body language or panic at times, and I have noticed Blackett dithers too long and then ends up getting rushed too. Mcnair though just has that air of calmness which I think is important, especially in a vital role like a CB.
Probably due to him being good vs. longer balls and making clearances, while Thorpe is a little bit short. LVG has mentioned lots of times that its difficult to defend against longballs and when we have injuries at the back and need to bring kids in, its only going to get harder. But Paddy has been one of our best at defending against them this seasonHow did he get ahead of Thorpe in the pecking order? Im curious
He's 6'2! His official stats are outdated, they say he's 6'1. McNair's stats say he's 5'8 but he's at least 6'0 now.Probably due to him being good vs. longer balls and making clearances, while Thorpe is a little bit short. LVG has mentioned lots of times that its difficult to defend against longballs and when we have injuries at the back and need to bring kids in, its only going to get harder. But Paddy has been one of our best at defending against them this season
Well thats that then. I certainly didnt expect him to be that tallHe's 6'2! His official stats are outdated, they say he's 6'1. McNair's stats say he's 5'8 but he's at least 6'0 now.
That's what's wrong with todays football. His idol is fecking Sergio Ramos, that's just sad.
Alright. McNair just popped out of nowhere for me, never heard of him before he got called up.Well thats that then. I certainly didnt expect him to be that tall
Still my point is that McNair has been one of our best clearing longer balls. It doesnt really matter if Thorpe is 7'4, if McNair is doing better dealing with them then he's doing better and I guess LVG is in the best place to judge who is doing it better.
He said if he could pick his favourite defenders of all times he would pick Ramos and Rio.Ramos is a pretty good defender. I'm sure he wasn't idolizing his red cards.
McNair's history probably doesn't go back more than 4-5 years, during which Ramos has been quite good.He said if he could pick his favourite defenders of all times he would pick Ramos and Rio.
Ramos isn't really good defender, but even if he is, you can surely agree that there were dozens of better ones even in last ten years.
Seriously, don't let the red cards fool you. He's better than you give him credit for.He said if he could pick his favourite defenders of all times he would pick Ramos and Rio.
Ramos isn't really good defender, but even if he is, you can surely agree that there were dozens of better ones to pick out even in last ten years.
I've watched him more than enough to say he is average defender who is considered to be good mostly because of his abilities on the ball.Seriously, don't let the red cards fool you. He's better than you give him credit for.
He really wasn't, but OK, we have different opinions on Ramos.McNair's history probably doesn't go back more than 4-5 years, during which Ramos has been quite good.
He's not the most likeable guy, but he is a very good defender. I'm sure McNair is more interested in the latter.I've watched him more than enough to say he is average defender who is considered to be good mostly because of his abilities on the ball.
He really wasn't, but OK, we have different opinions on Ramos.
Maybe he wants to formulate his own opinion, based around players he's observed, than rely on hearsay in a display of name-dropping. Or maybe he's a hipster, and doesn't subscribe to conformity wrt the established order.Surely he's heard about other greats, like Baresi, Maldini, Nesta?
I wouldn't say Ramos and Rio are very alike myself.If anything, it's rather refreshing his idols are players in a similar-ish mould to him. I'd agree and say I'd prefer a Ramos or Rio over a 18 yard clogger.
I like your second theory better. Anywho, he could model himself as Robert Huth for all I care, as long as he comes good.Maybe he wants to formulate his own opinion, based around players he's observed, than rely on hearsay in a display of name-dropping. Or maybe he's a hipster, and doesn't subscribe to conformity wrt the established order.
That's what's wrong with todays football. His idol is fecking Sergio Ramos, that's just sad.
He is 19, he would of been like 6 when he left. I only just saw/remember Stam playing and im a couple of years olderwow he never watched jaap stam play..
You don't think it's sad that Ramos is considered as one of the best defenders in the world year by year?
Yep, that's exactly what's wrong with football,,,
Ramos is a very 'modern' defender. Personally I don't think there's a single centre back currently playing at the top level that gets anywhere near the legends of the 90's and 00's (the latter for me ending with the decline of Rio + Vidic). Defensively speaking of course. Centre backs at the top level are geared more to being surrogate CM's these days, in my opinion of course. Granted you'll have a few that play with a more classic style but ball playing seems to be an important attribute now rather than halfway down the checklist.He's not the most likeable guy, but he is a very good defender. I'm sure McNair is more interested in the latter.
If he'd said that he'd certainly need therapy, two spoonfuls of Cod-liver oil everyday and leeches applied to his genitals for an hour each morning..!If he had said David May was his favourite, would that be more or less acceptable?