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He's fantastic, my favourite united player.
People moan about the long shots, yes OK some of them against Zorya were a little speculative, but they sat very deep, the forwards were not running beyond the defence and every other pass was either being miscontrolled or intercepted. They gave him plenty of room so why not have a shot? his left footed 1 was very close.
I think people are just obsessed with stats these days, they would rather side to side metronomic passing that gets 90% accuracy than somebody who tries something different.
I like the fact he's happy to challenge a midfielder 1v1. Yes he might lose it every now and again, but we look a much better team with him in it.
People moan about the long shots, yes OK some of them against Zorya were a little speculative, but they sat very deep, the forwards were not running beyond the defence and every other pass was either being miscontrolled or intercepted. They gave him plenty of room so why not have a shot? his left footed 1 was very close.
I think people are just obsessed with stats these days, they would rather side to side metronomic passing that gets 90% accuracy than somebody who tries something different.
I like the fact he's happy to challenge a midfielder 1v1. Yes he might lose it every now and again, but we look a much better team with him in it.
I thought he was more than a little sloppy last night. Some great moments but some very basic mistakes.
I don't mind the ball being given away in an attempt to be creative or press the action but Pogba (and others) were misjudging too many simple balls under little to no pressure. It's not the first time he has been guilty of that and hopefully he can learn to iron it out of his game.
He is a difference maker though and it is good to have one of those in the midfield once again.
I don't mind the ball being given away in an attempt to be creative or press the action but Pogba (and others) were misjudging too many simple balls under little to no pressure. It's not the first time he has been guilty of that and hopefully he can learn to iron it out of his game.
He is a difference maker though and it is good to have one of those in the midfield once again.
He's 23, of course he needs to iron out a couple of flaws. Nevertheless, he's hugely talented and will become a monster of a player
He is the new Wayne Rooney. I haven't seen anyone divides opinion as much as he does, since Steven Gerrard. Some over exaggerate his performances frequently. Others over criticise him. Hopefully he has the Career Rooney does and reaches his levels
Good point. And this is why it is fundamental that we get a reliable CM to play alongside him and not put too much pressure on him being the main man in midfield. The price and hype makes it hard not to though.
Ever played on a rock hard icey pitch @facund ? You simply have to cut a lot of the players some slack last night, almost everyone improved after 45 minutes when they had gotten used to the surface and it had started to soften up a little.
That's it like, too many inaccurate and almost panicked passes. Once he gets that down we'll be laughing.
Was listening to the match on the radio last night as I was travelling. Ray Wilkins was giving Pogba loads of stick, saying that he was underestimating the opponents - "taking the piss" basically and that it wasn't working.
Top four, easily, always challenging for the league title and should be competing in Europe. Furthermore, United standards demand consistency and good decision making; at the moment he possesses neither, but he has an abundance of technical qualities alongside his physical strength. I have no doubt he will come good, but claiming he played well against Zorya is baffling.
Icy pitches, sleet, snow, mud baths and pretty much every other type of pitch that the joyful Manchester weather produces between September and April (never nice pitches as it happens). I appreciate you taking a personal interest in me.
His passing was generally worse than most of the other players last night IMO, did the icy pitch have a greater effect on him than anyone else?
If this was the first occasion that he had appeared sloppy with basic passes then I would write it off as a bad night. It wasn't though, he was much the same at the weekend on a perfectly acceptable pitch. I like the lad and think he'll be a fantastic player for us but that won't stop me commenting on his weaknesses when they are displayed. He is a bit casual and sloppy with some of the basic work he is more than capable of doing to a near perfect standard. It is happening too often to be put down to a bad game/conditions, rather it is a pattern of his play and one that he must improve to reach his potential.
Even Mata, Mkhi and Herrera had a few shocking passes yesterday. It was not just Pogba struggling IMO.
I have to agree with him on that. It might be a bit harsh but he could probably be a lot more effective keeping things simple instead of his annoying little flicks or trying to score from 500 yards out.
As Arnie above pointed out, no, it had an effect on loads of players.
Sounds too English this to me.
Keep it up and improve on it Pogba I say, feck cutting out what makes you so special.
It's not that he should stop trying to score screamers, it's the he should pick his moments when to attempt one and when to pass the ball. He hit a daisy cutter from a good 40 yards yesterday which was just silly.
The pitch did make things difficult last night but that doesn't mean every single sh*tty pass was directly caused by it.
And as I pointed out, he did it at the weekend on a PL standard pitch. There is a wider trend with Pogba IMO.
Some interesting stats I saw in a Sky article earlier;
Pogba's had the 2nd most touches of all PL players, won the 2nd most duels and has the 4th best successful passes. 13th for chances created, 27th for aerial duels won.
Not bad.
Pogba's had the 2nd most touches of all PL players, won the 2nd most duels and has the 4th best successful passes. 13th for chances created, 27th for aerial duels won.
Not bad.
Exactly. In two years he'll bag 20 goals a season for us.
Doing well. Playing a lot of games though. Must be tired.
At this point I would say we are still challenging for top 4 and competing in Europe.
The problem is there have been only a handful Man Utd players, if at all that has those qualities you mentioned and exhibited those for every full 90 minutes, every match, 365 days a year.
And by that definition most of our squads and even SAF's past teams are not United quality.
It is a nebulous set of attributes. Plus the team can be more than a sum of its parts.
Despite liking him I actually think that our best formation is 4-2-3-1 and don't think he really suits that system at the minute. He might be able to adapt and become one of the 2 holding midfielders but then I think we'd lose what he's good at - driving from midfield and making things happen in the final 3rd. And I wouldn't play him as a 10 as we've got Mata and Mkhi, who are specialists in that role. It's a bit of a dilemma. For me anyway!
I don't know if you are kidding or not. That's a big big ask. Jose says Pogba will never be that guy too as he has never even got double figures before
No he's not, he's just an inconsistent yet talented young player. Plus he plays in a position which i feel takes more years and experience to grow into.
No wonder your posts are so ridiculous and out of touch, you're obviously a time-traveller from the pre-Y2K era.
To me its so obvious he is world class but he isnt playing like it currently. He will get there though.
That first game vs Southampton should be his blueprint. He oozed class and sublime quality in that game. Coaches should make him watch that game 3 times before every game and reallly pinpoint in detail the things he was doing there and ask him to do it regularly.
He played that game as a genuine top 5 player in the world and it looked so easy. No doubt in my mind he can get to the point of playing like that consistantly.
He is not a number 10. We experimented with it a bit as we should've, it is not the best way to use him. He is world class. He will start playing like it soon.
That first game vs Southampton should be his blueprint. He oozed class and sublime quality in that game. Coaches should make him watch that game 3 times before every game and reallly pinpoint in detail the things he was doing there and ask him to do it regularly.
He played that game as a genuine top 5 player in the world and it looked so easy. No doubt in my mind he can get to the point of playing like that consistantly.
He is not a number 10. We experimented with it a bit as we should've, it is not the best way to use him. He is world class. He will start playing like it soon.
Hopefully plays well vs Tottenham. Midfield battle will be key.
Jose isn't willing to go 4-3-3 permanently by the looks of things and wants to keep his #10 in most games, so Pogba is now developing into a full #8, his workrate, combativeness and agression has been excellent in the last few games, he holds onto the ball too long at times but he can fix that easily enough, his physical presence and athleticism in midfield is very important to this team.
Man Utd 1:0 Tottenham
He has done some really good things, but he has been a bit slow in decision making. Like the one after Spurs corner. Just after getting rid of Alderweireld after that fake, he could have made way forward instead of trying to dribble Wanyama(?)
He's played well. Used the ball well and is meeting the physical challenge of Spurs agricultural midfield.
Herrera is running midfield though.
Herrera is running midfield though.
Its the kind of performance where if this was his base I'd be happy. If he is consistently at this level and above I have no issues with him. He has those moments of magic so as long as everything else he does is not stupid, like his silly fouls, i'm happy with him.
Defensively poor at the freekick there
Valencia should've picked him up.
It was Valencia I think?
Really? For 90 million you're happy with a midfielder that doesn't dictate the tempo, doesn't control the game, is sloppy in possession, doesn't really create anything but at least he doesn't give away silly fouls? Hmmm.
Quality freekick.
Hes playing at left back at the moment
What has the money got to do with anything?
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