the Sanchez thread is rekindling some memories!
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the Sanchez thread is rekindling some memories!He’s going to be the best midlfielder in the world. Just hope we can keep hold of him.
It's just agenda driven nonsense. He was fantastic against Arsenal away. Going to the Emirates is extremely difficult and we are the only team to have won at the emirates the whole season!How come the ‘it’s only Stoke’ or ‘it’s against Stephen Ireland’ type of shite only gets spouted with him?
De Bruyne plays like that and it’s a totally different story.
He’s on a 5+1 contract so at the end of this season he will effectively have four years left.
Oh, didnt know that, that changes things.
Thing is with Pogba is that he loves being here, at the club and in Manchester. It is why he came back. Him signing for 6 years was indicative of that.
I thought it was 4 + 1
What a great player
To be fair, that's probably because De Bruyne has had some great games in big matches the last few years, Pogba not so much.How come the ‘it’s only Stoke’ or ‘it’s against Stephen Ireland’ type of shite only gets spouted with him?
De Bruyne plays like that and it’s a totally different story.
5 + 1
DeBruyne have been a lot better than Pogba this season. But this match Pogba was definitely up there with DeBruyne.How come the ‘it’s only Stoke’ or ‘it’s against Stephen Ireland’ type of shite only gets spouted with him?
De Bruyne plays like that and it’s a totally different story.
He is benefitting from the freedom he have been given these last few games, but we look a bit too open midfield. Against bigger teams we would have been punished from this, that's why he was moved a bit deeper in the second half against Stoke.
It's important that we get a new midfielder in that can give us that balance. Castles is saying that Mourinho is seeking a new midfielder to give Pogba that freedom, so i'm hoping we can find a gem somewhere.
It's important that we get a new midfielder in that can give us that balance. Castles is saying that Mourinho is seeking a new midfielder to give Pogba that freedom, so i'm hoping we can find a gem somewhere.
A lot better, what?
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how good Pogba has been this season, and the fact that just because he's a Manchester United player is the reason why hes "not as good as De Bruyne" etc.
Lets face it, Pogba's one of, if not the best midfielder in the Premier League. His passing ability as shown in the most recent match (Stoke City) was unbelievable; long pass after long pass, only Scholes have I seen that consistency before. If he was a Manchester City player everyone would be praising his performances, like De Bruyne is receiving. I don't think anyone knows the importance of Pogba, we haven't lost a match in the past 35 games in the Premier League when he's on the pitch, fair enough a lot of draws, but that's because of last season, when no one could convert the chances he created. He's played 10 less games than De Bruyne (over 900 minutes), yet is still joint top assists wise.
United are a very different team without him. We rely on Pogba, his influence in games is a lot more than people realise. It's just everyone who dislikes Manchester United has to take advantage of the little errors he makes, yet every player makes errors, every player has bad games. If United attacked against teams like they did against Stoke today, Pogba would be way ahead of De Bruyne this season; it's just as per usual, Mourinho's tactics don't use players like Pogba to the best of their ability.
Lets face it, Pogba's one of, if not the best midfielder in the Premier League. His passing ability as shown in the most recent match (Stoke City) was unbelievable; long pass after long pass, only Scholes have I seen that consistency before. If he was a Manchester City player everyone would be praising his performances, like De Bruyne is receiving. I don't think anyone knows the importance of Pogba, we haven't lost a match in the past 35 games in the Premier League when he's on the pitch, fair enough a lot of draws, but that's because of last season, when no one could convert the chances he created. He's played 10 less games than De Bruyne (over 900 minutes), yet is still joint top assists wise.
United are a very different team without him. We rely on Pogba, his influence in games is a lot more than people realise. It's just everyone who dislikes Manchester United has to take advantage of the little errors he makes, yet every player makes errors, every player has bad games. If United attacked against teams like they did against Stoke today, Pogba would be way ahead of De Bruyne this season; it's just as per usual, Mourinho's tactics don't use players like Pogba to the best of their ability.
Was in the pub in Killarney watching the game, there were opposition fans silently praising him ("Jesus Chriiiiist he is a feeckin good player isn't he?", that's how good he was.
Keep in mind that that was in the...35th minute? Right after a spell where we weren't playing well at all and Stoke were carving us open and we were being sloppy.
Needs to score more but 9 assists and 3 goals in 13 PL appearances is a brilliant return all the same
Majestic performance from Pogba. That pass to Shaw in the first half was sublime.
He was imperious.
In terms of god-given abilities, he is perhaps, probably, likely ahead of Zidane, nevermind midfielders from this generation.
His problem so far is that he has not played in a team that's able to fully showcase said abilitiew.
His problem so far is that he has not played in a team that's able to fully showcase said abilitiew.
It's genuinely hilarious how he still has so many detractors.
Gem of a player. We'd be utterly lost without him. He deserves a Sanchez like signing.
Gem of a player. We'd be utterly lost without him. He deserves a Sanchez like signing.
We took a chance playing Pogba in a role where he had more freedom in the first half. It was a risk worth taking considering we were playing Stoke at Old Trafford. I would actually lay some of the blame on our defenders with how we were carved open, especially Smalling.
I think so yes both in terms of playmaking and in scoring goals. Pogba hasn't been near DeBruyne's level.
DeBruyne
xA 7.7
Assists 9
Pogba
xA 2.8
Assists 9
Pogba would be at 3 assists this season if it wasn't for players like Martial and Lingard having very high G/xG-ratios. DeBruyne would've been at 8 if it wasn't for goals like Sterlings 2-1 against Southampton.
Compare the G and xG ratios for De Bruyne versus Pogba:
De Bruyne
xG: 3.3
Goals: 6
Pogba
xG: 5.1
Goals: 3
De Bruyne have scored six goals from an expected 3. Meaning he scores goals twice as many goals as expected. Pogba have an almost inverted ratio. He's scored 3 goals from an expected 5, just above half of what is expected.
These differences might even out in the long run. But so far the two haven't been comparable this season.
So you're just discounting 6 assists to prove your point?
Just look at the output per minutes played and you'll understand that you're talking nonsense.
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When's the last time we had a player that got 15+ assists in one season?
To be fair it’s because we know Kevin can and will also do it against Chelsea and United.How come the ‘it’s only Stoke’ or ‘it’s against Stephen Ireland’ type of shite only gets spouted with him?
De Bruyne plays like that and it’s a totally different story.
What a load of nonsense.
Rooney under Moyes got 22 (12 in the league). Last time we had someone with 15 assists in the PL was RVP in Fergie's last season.
If that's how you interpret the pretty obvious stats above then I think you're a lost cause.So you're just discounting 6 assists to prove your point?
Just look at the output per minutes played and you'll understand that you're talking nonsense.
Your actually hilarious pal its unreal. xG and xA obviously means jack all, an assist is a flipping assist pal, if Pogba didn't make that pass, would the player have scored the goal? NO, end of question.
Quit trying to make excuses for the fact Pogba's having a good season, and more assists per minute than De Bruyne.
I think he's been great this season. You only need to look at how piss poor we are without him to see how important he is to the team.
If he could only improve the defnsive side of his game, which costs us against better teams (more than people realize) he would without doubt be the best midfielder in the world when on form IMO. Modric is the best right now though.
How about thinking this way instead: if let's say Stephen Ireland, and not say Martial, would have received "the pass" from Pogba, would he have scored?
Ah, the standard reply when someone has nothing of value to say. You realise how deluded you sound? I pointed out what was clearly flawed in your fantasy conclusion and all you can say in response is, "I'm right, you're wrong and I don't need to explain why". Don't spout crap and act surprised when you're called up on it.
Very good game overall and deserved man of the match. However, defensively in a two man midfield he's a liability. We can get away with it at home against weak opposition but need to find a better balance for tougher games.
One problem with that, 99% of players including De Bruyne cannot make 'the pass' that Pogba can.
Pogba's passing range is better than De Bruyne's and it's not even close. The fact that he played with Pirlo is very obvious.
De Bruyne cannot play as a deep lying playmaker; whereas Pogba can and does regularly for us.
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