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2018-19 Performances


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5.8 Season Average Rating
Appearances
47
Goals
16
Assists
14
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Brilliant yesterday. We need him to perform like that on Tuesday if we want to stand a chance.
 
I don't give Lingard critical assessments because I know he's shite. Pogba has the ability and he can be amazing, hence why I care

But sure what does it matter what I say? You've already concluded that I know nothing about football so why do you care?

Unless that's another excuse for Pogba?
Hard to know these days...

Yes he does have the ability and still there is only so much one player can do surrounded by average and under performing players.

Well you don't seem to grasp the fact we've a poor side in your judgement of Pogba. To judge his role in the side you need to look at mitigating factors as well like lack of movement from our forward line. It's no coincidence his best run of form coincided with Rashford playing consistently up front, you know the guy who gives us the most movement? That makes runs in behind the back line?

Since his injury and others Pogba's role in the side has changed and our performances have also dropped of...

What a shocker.
 
Certainly can't complain about his numbers. 30 goals and assists is incredible. Numbers wise, you could argue that he should be nominated for POTY. But he can most certainly improve. Those first three games of Ole's reign highlighted just how good Pogba can be. Everything went through him and he managed 2 assists, 2 goals and 2 goals and an assist against Cardiff, Huddersfield and Bournemouth.

When Pogba is at his utmost best, so are we. When Pogba is shit, so are we.


That's a team problem. depending on one player no matter who he is, is a shite idea and unbelievably unfair on said player. Because they also get the blame then for every loss.
 
That's a team problem. depending on one player no matter who he is, is a shite idea and unbelievably unfair on said player. Because they also get the blame then for every loss.

Well yes, it is. Ole needs to find a way to get the best out of his other players. Something he has failed to do so far.
 
Holy feck balls, didnt realise he's scored 16 goals :eek:
 
Holy feck balls, didnt realise he's scored 16 goals :eek:
Well like half of them were penalties, but it's still impressive nonetheless. Had a mad goal scoring + assisting run in the early Ole days but he's died down in that aspect. I think this is his highest goal scoring season ever?
 
Good against Barca and one of a tiny few who performed well yesterday.
Good to see his form slowly coming back because we're in desperate need of it.
 
here you go being shameless again. your posts were using random reviews and a bunch of looney opinions in this thread as corroboration for them.
Nope. I stated that from watching the game, he didn't have a good game. Number of us did. We were told we were haters with low football iq. I simply pointed out that numerous reviews of the game thought likewise. I guess those journos are all simply haters too.

But great to see irony completely lost on you. Shameless and clueless.
 
Amazing isn't it? Many used to say he should be like Lampard ignoring how many penalties he used to take, now that Pogba started to take, it's "yeah he scored goals but penalties" is used.
Yes pens weren't being counted for Lampard or when Kane scored nothing but pens in the World Cup. He should've got the hatrick of pens just for the banter.
 
Nope. I stated that from watching the game, he didn't have a good game. Number of us did. We were told we were haters with low football iq. I simply pointed out that numerous reviews of the game thought likewise. I guess those journos are all simply haters too.

But great to see irony completely lost on you. Shameless and clueless.

See, corroboration. One of your very first engagements with me was “did you read match reviews?” then you tried to substantiate it with a bunch of low football IQ (using your words) and agenda driven opinions here. No shame.
 
See, corroboration. One of your very first engagements with me was “did you read match reviews?” then you tried to substantiate it with a bunch of low football IQ (using your words) and agenda driven opinions here. No shame.
You mean , where I'm pointing out that this place isn't nuts, by pointing out that this place isn't the only place you see the same comments on his performance??

Agenda driven opinions? My god, you really are an idiot.
 
Even Scholes saying he has reverted back to Mourinho Pogba in the last few games.
 
Certainly can't complain about his numbers. 30 goals and assists is incredible. Numbers wise, you could argue that he should be nominated for POTY. But he can most certainly improve. Those first three games of Ole's reign highlighted just how good Pogba can be. Everything went through him and he managed 2 assists, 2 goals and 2 goals and an assist against Cardiff, Huddersfield and Bournemouth.

When Pogba is at his utmost best, so are we. When Pogba is shit, so are we.
Certainly impressive numbers but POTY needs more consistency and not so many ineffectual games, especially in a row. I would very much him to get to 20 goals
 
You mean , where I'm pointing out that this place isn't nuts, by pointing out that this place isn't the only place you see the same comments on his performance??

Agenda driven opinions? My god, you really are an idiot.

You think redcafe as a trademark and exclusivity deal on nutters?

yes, agenda driven posts as the narrative they push do not reflect reality. for example, people in this thread said Pogba was nonexistent defensively vs West Ham, but the reality is that he outworked everybody else in midfield and had the most defensive contributions. Against Barca the erroneous notion was that he had a bad game, he didn't.

shameless, i say.
 
You think redcafe as a trademark and exclusivity deal on nutters?

yes, agenda driven posts as the narrative they push do not reflect reality. for example, people in this thread said Pogba was nonexistent defensively vs West Ham, but the reality is that he outworked everybody else in midfield and had the most defensive contributions. Against Barca the erroneous notion was that he had a bad game, he didn't.

shameless, i say.
He did have a bad game. I saw it. Numerous people here saw it. Numerous unbiased journalists also saw it. It's you who has agenda.
 
I think Pogba showed some promise of regaining his form against West Ham. Hopefully his two great penalties gives him a confidence boost ahead of the away game in Barcelona. We need him to either be really effective and contribute with goals or assist, or he needs to be a lot more disciplined and committed in his pressing than in the home game, he needs to follow the rhythm of the team.
 
I think Pogba showed some promise of regaining his form against West Ham. Hopefully his two great penalties gives him a confidence boost ahead of the away game in Barcelona. We need him to either be really effective and contribute with goals or assist, or he needs to be a lot more disciplined and committed in his pressing than in the home game, he needs to follow the rhythm of the team.
His second penalty in particular was incredible. Saw someone call it perfect, it basically was.
 
His second penalty in particular was incredible. Saw someone call it perfect, it basically was.
Yeah, showed us some cool there. Very important to not feck around with those.
 
Yeah, showed us some cool there. Very important to not feck around with those.
Yeah, I didn't love his first penalty. But it went in, that's what matters. But second was just incredible. Ballsy too.

We need a big performance from him in Barcelona now, only hope of going through in my opinion. He's the key. It's a big ask though, to be honest, coming 4th is the main thing at this point.
 
My main issue with Pogba is how unnatural his defensive instincts are. Honestly speaking he's poor off the ball and no matter how good he is on the ball, it always presents problems for us off the ball. No one is asking him to be Kante but there's a certain level of off the ball work you expect from a PL central midfielder and Pogba IMO consistently falls below that level. Unlike others I'm not accusing him of being lazy, I just think he's very poor at it.

The likes of the D.Silva, B.Silva, KDB, Eriksen, Ramsey and many more can do the basics defensively very well. When watching Pogba, you can see so many flaws and schoolboy errors in his off the ball play. It's no surprise that Jose ended up having issues with him.

Mctominay in his first few games for the club showed more maturity and concentration than Pogba off the ball despite Pogba already playing up to 250 professional matches.
 
Yeah, I didn't love his first penalty. But it went in, that's what matters. But second was just incredible. Ballsy too.

We need a big performance from him in Barcelona now, only hope of going through in my opinion. He's the key. It's a big ask though, to be honest, coming 4th is the main thing at this point.
Well. It depends. The main reason we won against PSG was that we had an incredible team effort and passion, and we played probably our most disciplined match in years, I doubt we would have managed that with Pogba in there sadly. He is pure quality but on his own terms completely. A team performance is what we need and that is not necessarily a right fit for his terms to perform so he'll be redundant.

If he plays he just has to fit in with our team or else he becomes a passenger and we'll then just rely on him to be contributing goals and assists against the tide, which may be very difficult for him. It is unfair on him too, so I think the best choice might be the wrong choice and start the game without Pogba on the field.
 
Well. It depends. The main reason we won against PSG was that we had an incredible team effort and passion, and we played probably our most disciplined match in years, I doubt we would have managed that with Pogba in there sadly. He is pure quality but on his own terms completely. A team performance is what we need and that is not necessarily a right fit for his terms to perform so he'll be redundant.

If he plays he just has to fit in with our team or else he becomes a passenger and we'll then just rely on him to be contributing goals and assists against the tide, which may be very difficult for him. It is unfair on him too, so I think the best choice might be the wrong choice and start the game without Pogba on the field.
I get where you're coming from. I agree that we probably wouldn't have won in PSG with him in the team. It required exactly that performance, sit back, catch them when they make mistakes. Not sure he could have been involved in that.

However, I don't think you can leave him out of the team. He is the best outfield player. The reason I say we need him to play well is ... if he's in the team, the only chance we have of winning is with his flashes of genius. Because it won't be the ultra strategic type of victory we were able to pull off in Paris.
 
For the bolded part, the following quote from Einstein rings true:



So, if it fails a majority of the time and his positional awareness in defence is lacking, what have we actually paid all that money for? For the bolded part in blue, I agree entirely with you however, he really needs to cut out the time he spends on the ball altogether. The pace of the game has evolved over the last few decades and players are getting faster and covering lots of ground quickly. He needs to change his game and use his "footballing brain", to get us back on track. Again, I hated Vieira with a passion however, he was a player with vision and he had buckets of it. He made the Arsenal midfield tick and this is something that Paul Pogba needs to do; make us tick. After 3 seasons in the Premier league, I have yet to see any consistent plays from Paul. When he does it on a consistent basis and helps us improve our league position, then I will change my opinion, until that happens, my opinion (to borrow a religious term) is currently in limbo.
Yeah, I agree.
 
So 2 goals from open play all season? Should be more really. Can’t knock his assists total, though. And none of them are from set pieces (we never fecking get assists from set pieces)

Only 2, are you sure? i don't think thats right
 
So you both agree Lingard is poor, but then ignore this when there's a chance to abuse Pogba. As others have said, if Pogba drops deep to pick a pass up from our CB's and turns to try pick a player out, you do realize one of his options is the player you both say is feckin dreadful, Lingard?

His others options yesterday? A piss poor Martial in one of his worst United performances to date and who is often statue still and couldn't beat a near 40 year old fullback in Zabaletta. Lukaku god love him just ran out to the RW time and time again and in turn offered nothing with his crosses. His efforts were every bit as bad as Young recently.

How in the blue hell is any of that on Pogba?

Neither of you clearly have a clue about transitions within a game and moving the ball from defence to offence. Pogba is that lynch pin in our side most matches and has a huge amount of pressure on him to continually deliver every single game, which is pretty unrealistic considering our standing as a team. We have so many players that are under performing around him as well.

:lol: Muppet.
 
Wow, took you all those hours to come back with that.

I'm delighted you did cause it proves to me you haven't a clue and also you know you're wrong.

It took me all of 5 seconds to come back with that. Seriously, though, what an arrogant prat. Telling other people what they do and don’t know about football because they have a different opinion to you about a player’s performance. Have a word with yourself :rolleyes:
 
It took me all of 5 seconds to come back with that. Seriously, though, what an arrogant prat. Telling other people what they do and don’t know about football because they have a different opinion to you about a player’s performance. Have a word with yourself :rolleyes:

It's not arrogant, I'm judging your opinion based on what you posted. You showed yourself as not being knowledgeable in regards to transitions in defence to attack.
 
Not bad on the ball, but also slow on the ball. He slows down United´s attack by being such a ball fiddler. In his first matches under Ole he made quick offensive passes when he received the ball in the middle. Now he´s back to being Mourinho Pogba and that´s the one thing he needs to change.

I think he´ll shine against Barcelona.
 
I actually think he has been okay in the last two matches. The front three in both of the last two matches have been dogshit. There are actual criticisms on his performances against Wolves but he was clearly working very hard yesterday and against Wolves.

He has. Considering the overall performance of those around him, he is night and day to what he was last time the whole team was this bad. He is working much harder and playing much more sensibly than he was in Mourinho's last few months.

Letting him go without a fight would be more indicative of our problems as a club than any renewed contract we've done. He's our best player and we should building the team around him.
 
Played well against West ham ;was my second MOTM after Fred.

I noticed something against west ham.Whenever Pogba looks up to pick a forward pass, there was lack of movement from the forward players which makes him to hold onto the ball longer than necessary or play a backward pass.This changed a bit when Rashford came on.

Only God knows how much impact and assists Pogba would have had if we had good forward players that have a lot of movement.

This may not be a popular opinion, but apart from the RB and CB positions.The forward positions are much more a priority for us to sign players than the midfield.

I have always questioned his commitment, but i wont blame him if he leaves next summer, if we fail to improve.Anybody who has played football at any level knows that football is much more fun when you have some teammates who can play football.

If you remove Pogba, Rashford and Shaw.Wolves have a better outfield line up than we do.
 
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