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I'm talented, but i've only got one pair of hands, i'll get to Matic later!
Well that's pretty stupid line of thinking. When Pogba is on the pitch he is trying to win. Any other crap you try to imagine him thinking is in fact complete crap.
I've not seen it again yet but Matic's level have dropped since he signed his new contract, he hung Bailly out to dry against Bournemouth that's for sure.
People preach about their version of real support but in reality its selective and fake as feck. Reminds me of the hate Martial got during that summer.
A typical example for - Numbers lie.
Numbers can't lie tbh
I've said a trillion times he had a good game. Now move on.
Bruno has kept up these numbers for 3 seasons now. Pogba has never been someone as productive as him, and its a different role anyway. Both great players, but Bruno is the guy with a strikers movement, brilliant finishing and goalscoring instinct, with constant efforts for the final ball. Pogba will often times create chances and score his share, but probably about half of Bruno's numbers for both goals and assists. A midfield 3 of Bruno and Pogba will always have Bruno being more productive and Pogba more controlling. Just the style of both.
Yea, I agree with that, my observation would be similar. Although I think Iniesta was a more purposeful goalscorer than Pogba. When the opportunity arises anyway. You look at goals like his last minute semi-final winner vs Chelsea for example. A bit of the Ramos mentality in that one.
I don't think anyone who watched the game can actually have this opinion.
This in only my 22nd post in the entire thread, and most of those have been in the last ten hours. Hardly an agenda.
Yeah Ok you're definitely just trolling now. Boring.
If you TRULY believe that was a poor game you have no idea what you're watching to be honest.
You post on the whole forum though, it's easy to notice things.
That's me told.
Centre Back... Who do we go for?
I'm loathe to criticise any United player not called Paul Pogba so I think it's fair, if you don't agree, fine.
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There you goCentre Back... Who do we go for?
I'm loathe to criticise any United player not called Paul Pogba so I think it's fair, if you don't agree, fine.
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Or perhaps you misunderstood the entire argument before you had a hyperbole of a response.
Moving on, I'm not sure where you got your stats. Mind posting a source? If you meant 2014-2019, Bruno's numbers are lower and if you include this season as well (while Pogba was injured), they are higher. I'm using Transfermarkt, and here are numbers from the 2014/15 to 2018/19 season for Bruno and Pogba. I've left this season out because it's not over yet and Pogba was injured for most of it.
Bruno has 60 goals and 48 assists (of which 48 goals and 38 assists were in Portugal, btw).
Pogba has 51 goals and 53 assists.
108 contributions playing for Udinese, Sampdoria and Sporting Lisbon isn't too far ahead of 104 contributions playing for Juventus and Manchester United. There was a reason Pogba cost so much while Bruno cost relatively little.
Don't get me wrong, I am glad we have both of them playing for us right now. And it would indeed be ridiculous to belittle the achievements of someone who's won 2 PL POTM in a row and has completely transformed our team. I think very highly of Bruno, I just think much higher of Pogba. Goals and assists are not even what his strengths are, and he's going toe to toe with Bruno in terms of numbers on that front in the timeframe you have chosen.
As for your last line, again, let me clarify. I am not saying he will both out-assist and out-score Bruno. Just enough of the former to cover the latter.
More goals + assists.
Without statistics to back it up, anyone who thought Pogba was bad Thursday night needs to have their eyes examined. Controlled the game almost like a peak Scholes. He fits well playing the deeper role having someone just as creative (possibly) in front of him, with Matic sometimes dropping into the defensive line to play the ball out.
Been superb since his return.
My man of the match yesterday. Again, simple but effective. Took his goal superbly well and should have had an assist. Another good game by Pogba.
You can move around the years to suit you and change your statement all you want, you're still talking nonsense.Or perhaps you misunderstood the entire argument before you had a hyperbole of a response.
Moving on, I'm not sure where you got your stats. Mind posting a source? If you meant 2014-2019, Bruno's numbers are lower and if you include this season as well (while Pogba was injured), they are higher. I'm using Transfermarkt, and here are numbers from the 2014/15 to 2018/19 season for Bruno and Pogba. I've left this season out because it's not over yet and Pogba was injured for most of it.
Bruno has 60 goals and 48 assists (of which 48 goals and 38 assists were in Portugal, btw).
Pogba has 51 goals and 53 assists.
108 contributions playing for Udinese, Sampdoria and Sporting Lisbon isn't too far ahead of 104 contributions playing for Juventus and Manchester United. There was a reason Pogba cost so much while Bruno cost relatively little.
Don't get me wrong, I am glad we have both of them playing for us right now. And it would indeed be ridiculous to belittle the achievements of someone who's won 2 PL POTM in a row and has completely transformed our team. I think very highly of Bruno, I just think much higher of Pogba. Goals and assists are not even what his strengths are, and he's going toe to toe with Bruno in terms of numbers on that front in the timeframe you have chosen.
As for your last line, again, let me clarify. I am not saying he will both out-assist and out-score Bruno. Just enough of the former to cover the latter.
More goals + assists.
Hes been great since coming back vs Spurs. He does the simple things so good (but its also cos hes so good he make it look simple).
Glad he got his goal. Its so nice that he has better quality players around him now and is enjoying his football (like he does for France). And has a manager that trusts him.
Glad he got his goal. Its so nice that he has better quality players around him now and is enjoying his football (like he does for France). And has a manager that trusts him.
So no source, then. Thought as much.
Didnt realise that I discredited everything he did......Oh look, I didnt.too many Guiness last night?
Amazing how you discredit everything good he did, but highlight 2 errors across 90 minutes and call it a bad performance.
For your information that IS a good midfield performance. Statistically and to the eye it was spot on.
Villa in the second half was probably the poorest team we played against all season so do excuse me if i dont get carried away. If Maguire made that error we would be discussing it to death.
Pogba has good since he came back but nothing more. Probably not amongst our best 5 players. I'm sure he will improve as the season continues.
He’s brilliant. But I have a weird desire for him to be bald. He’d look the absolute business bald and with a goatee
They scored and then the team instantly reacted and spanked them... How can you not see such a basic point
The only difference between home and away right now is that the away team has to travel and they might not be used to the size of the pitch. That's it.
I think there's a bit more to it than that.
Like what mate? There's no opposition fans chanting murder or home fans getting on the back of players. Honestly I can't think of how it's the same as no lockdown, perhaps the fact that both teams can hear instructions to the other team?
That's ridiculous. He's never indicated at any point that he doesn't like a certain position. I'm amazed that people can come up with such bonkers conspiracy theories.
It's their pitch, they play and train on it all season, they know which parts the ball holds up or runs away, which parts have been over-watered, which parts have been left purposely dry ....
Besides Greenwood, felt like Pogba has been our best, in-form player. Moreso than Bruno. Some of those diagonal passes he was pinging in the 1st half
We genuinely wouldn't.
It wasn't even a mistake by Pogba in the first place. Being tackled after your team mate plays you into trouble is not something you can be angry about.
That is part of trying to play "good" football in midfield. 9/10 Pogba manages to ride that challenge and gets us out of trouble, but on this occasion they did a good job of nicking it.
Would you really want him to just punt it up field or into the stands?
I thought that was one of his best performances in a Utd shirt and he has had a disciplined edge to his game since he has come back like he was in the World Cup, long may it continue.
Calm your knickers love it was just a suggestion, and he wouldn't have been the first professional player to try and convince their Manager that they ain't suited for a particular position by taking needless risks, or purposely playing crap there.
Who would have been the first?
There's always one.
Except in this particular example!There's always one.
Huh?
I was doubtful as to whether there was even one example of a player who deliberately performed some sort of sabotage in a protest to their manager against their position. Your post implies it happens all the time, including on Thursday apparently. I’ve never heard of any player doing this.
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