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Maybe he didn't watch Guendouzi the other week and was going off information from people he trusts.Just watched Mcguinn run off Guendouzi. Had a little laugh at Pogue Mahone getting giddy after he had a good game a few weeks back and described him as a complete midfielder after watching one game
Most likely
We are absolutely shite with or without Pogba. Crystal Palace and West Ham are two very similar performances... Once with Pogba and one without.
Do you honestly think he would have changed things today?
He’s back against the mighty dale on Wednesday so chill out
By all means, let Mctominay and Matic be the "engine room"
if you like, but if you're telling me Pogba couldn't do a better job than Mata or Pereira in attack then you're bonkers. Ye he said he would be back for Rochdale. I would play him, we need him so that we can beat Rochdale
Don't even think it's about controlling the game but about creating chances, something that he does whether his detractors want to admit or not. A mid of Mctominay and Matic is dead in the chance creating department.By all means, let Mctominay and Matic be the "engine room"
I think it's pretty obvious by now, Pogba isn't perfect and has his flaws, but what he brings us is MUCH more valuable than what he gives away.
Oh yeah i'm 100% convinced most his haters are purely swayed by the media. He's literally no different than when we signed him, he plays the same way and makes the same PROS/CONS.
Not only creating chances but holding on to the ball and dribbling through the lines with it. The amount of times he creates space by going past players and pushing forward is the only way we actually progress up the pitch. Him and Martial are the only 2 senior players who can hold up the ball, link up play well, dribble in tight spaces and use their bodies to protect the ball when its congested. When both are out we are nothing but a counter attacking side with pace in behind but no quality to supply any of that.
I never said he's worse than McTominay though, did I?By all means, let Mctominay and Matic be the "engine room"
I think it's pretty obvious by now, Pogba isn't perfect and has his flaws, but what he brings us is MUCH more valuable than what he gives away.
And there is your problem. This isn't going to happen when we have other issues that need sorting first.
I agree. One other thing i'll add is that i'm not sure how many of his detractors watched him for Juventus. I say it because still so many people expect him to be a "sets the tempo" Scholes/Xavi type or a classic AM and he is and never was either of those things. He is a mezzala that is WC when supported by a top class DM and a top class box to box player. We've seen some glimpses of this when Herrera was in top form, Pogba was in top form and almost unplayable.
The episode with Mourinho is the most important one IMO because it was then that the narrative of "he is a virus/ doesn't care/ etc" started. Doesn't matter that all his other managers have only the best things to say about his professionalism (including our current one), Mourinho fanboys want to hear non of it.
Yes let's keep one underperforming player who has tried to force his way out of the club multiple times and let his value continue to decline because we have worse players in the squad.
How? We conceded 2 Vs West Ham, never looked in Control of the Leicester game either?
Maybe because a midfield two of Scott and Pogba is fecking stupid.
He isn't underperforming though is he, he's the highest G+A maker at the club whether you like it or not
yet again, if you want stability then leave Matic + Mctominay together fine.
We conceded with him, we got more clean sheets without him.
Yes, but we look alot more lacklusture. Are you including the game V Astana as well?
Yea but we scored more in that 1 game than the rest of the games with pogba as well. Was just a 1 off game. Yea we are more lacklustre, we still win more. My point is just that hes not the saviour, and hes not had a good season either.
Oh yeah he isn't a saviour but lets be honest that when he doesn't play that midfield is probably championship level. James, Matic, McT, Perreira, Mata
Wasn't he somewhere in top 4 for chances created (PL wide)? I can't search for the stat myself right now.
As the huge argument on one of the threads said, these chances statistics are worthless because usually the chances are nothing.
If the chances created mean nothing and the assist needs the finisher to be able to actually finish, then how do you measure a creative's player influence?
Its very difficult with statistics.
Only if one is ready to ignore the chances created stat. I don't.
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Yet you have fools who think we're better off without him. Also would have said I'm surprised to hear this but this being the Caf I'm not even surprised to see posts claiming that they'd rather do away with his creativity for some mythical stability(which we don't have even without him).
Yes but XG XA
Speak English manYes but XG XA
How about his goalscoring in general?
Goal-scoring from a player playing this season in defensive mid in a pivot?
He doesn’t do much defending either so he’s basically a £100 million pound quarterback.Goal-scoring from a player playing the majority of his matches this season in defensive mid in a pivot?
Says it all.
