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With Lingard so out of form and with the lack of a CAM, it seems so obvious that we should revert back to the midfield / set up that got Ole off to such a good start as United boss.
I remember a lot of people complaining about us playing 3 people in midfield against weaker sides as it is apparently too defensive so what is the actual truth?
I don't know if we can rely on Fred in that situation.
You're going off on many tangents but this is the crux of a point. You said Pogba was best in a midfield 3 on the left. I said he doesn't work in a 4-3-3 because in that system the 8s have to be hardworking as a pre-requisite. Look at any coaching resource if you disagree with this point. Its a basic concept because the formation is inherently attacking so space is left in behind for the opposition to exploit, therefore you need those hardworking 8s to win the ball back quickly, close the space quickly or tactical foul quickly to stop counters, therefore you need hard running and hard pressing players in those positions.
Yes out for 3 weeks apparently. Ankle problem again.
You've made really good points in every post...both pros and cons and where the team is currently. The other poster seems to always need to be right, there's no movement nor acceptance from them. No middle ground.
I didn't. You asked me how I would use him, presumably in our team, and I gave my opinion on him and what the team needed to find balance.
Do you think that he would fake an injury that prevents him from playing for France?
So he was rushed back then.
I didn't ask you how you would use him, I asked how would you would fit him in the kind of systems used by the top sides these days i.e. attacking systems that work at the highest level, the kind of system that United wants to play.
Based on what I have seen in french reports, the club specified that he was still suffering from the injury sustained against Southampton. So yeah, rushed back.
But as I said they don't use the same systems, they don't use the same type of players and they don't even use the same formations. My guess is that you are thinking about Liverpool and I already addressed that point.
I'm not thinking of Liverpool specifically no. Look at the PL last season
And they don't use the same players or the same system, they are all adapted to the players at their disposal. What you said about Pogba applies to all our players, McTominay wouldn't fit with City or Chelsea, Matic would fit with no one, same as Fred and Pogba. If you think that the meters run that separates Pogba from the rest is actually the source of the imbalance then there isn't much to talk about. I mean Matic was around 12km, he couldn't press to save his life and is useless at everything else.
Many many players have faked an injury to avoid internationals (this isn’t a pop at pogba)
I haven't once said that Pogba is the only problem with our team. Although I do think that we would be better off selling him and rebuilding the midfield.
But you don't have to copy them, the same way teams didn't have to copy Mourinho in 2004, Guardiola in 2009, SAF during his entire career or Heyckes in 2012, all of these managers did what fitted them and their players. At the end of the day, Sarri hasn't won much and Klopp before last season wasn't winning much either while Guardiola has spent an absolute fortune for relative success. Chelsea in particular weren't head and shoulders better than us, in a pretty bad season for us.
The implication here is he's faking injury to avoid playing for us....doesn't make sense that he's missed the two international breaks but plYed for us before the first and in between the second...but yeah he's faking it because he doesn't want to play for united
No implication honest, was just replying to someone that made it sound like a player would never swerve international duty in general to get themselves a cheeky little break when we all know that’s not true.The implication here is he's faking injury to avoid playing for us....doesn't make sense that he's missed the two international breaks but plYed for us before the first and in between the second...but yeah he's faking it because he doesn't want to play for united
They would do that for pointless friendlies but rarely for important qualifiers. Context is massively important here, the next 2 games coming for your idol are vital qualifiers (vs Island 3rd of the group and Turkey tied with 15 points)
He might not be faking but he clearly doesn't want to play for United.The implication here is he's faking injury to avoid playing for us....doesn't make sense that he's missed the two international breaks but plYed for us before the first and in between the second...but yeah he's faking it because he doesn't want to play for united
'Clearly'
Haha my idol
I’m not even sure he’d get in the first 11 on current form. France aren’t as desperately sad as us.Because players who don’t want to play for clubs, play on an injury that puts them out for their national team ? Ok.
He won't cause he's dog shit and nobody else will pay the kind of money we'd ask for him.
Yes. Or he seemed to be ready and fit, and turned out he wasn’t. Rehabilitation isn’t always maths and lego.
Why type such stupidness?
Yeah he wanted to play for United as well when he was shite talking all summer trying to engineer a transfer.
One benefit of him not playing for France is him stirring things up with the foreign press, im sure his brother or agent will do the honours at some point though to which Pogba never refutes.
If he was putting in world class performances for us then we could defend him but he's not. Move him on. Get players with the correct attitude.
Agreed, at the rate things are going though we will be lucky to get our money back.
Haha my idol
indeed. In all honesty, he's among the automatic starters when fit even if we do have much more options there than United.Who would have thought De Gea would lose his position as Spain’s automatic no1 after he collected his last player of the year award at united. All the arguments about whether he’s good enough, United are good enough (clearly not) playing in the wrong position etc aside he has not had a good year.
I'm just talking about the immediate future. Unless a huge injury happens, Pogba will start at the Euros if France qualifies. Beyond that, no one can sure.
Of course he wanted to go (can anyone seriously blame him?), but he never 'talked shite all summer'. He made a couple of comments and his agent made a couple of comments, that's it. Once we made it obvious that we weren't going to sell, he knuckled down, came back for the preseason and from all accounts made no problems at all. He's then proceeded to play every game he can, including while obviously nursing injuries that Ole shouldn't have been risking him with which have then made him miss important international matches.
