Now you are talking. Also, the dynamic between, agents, Woodward, Mou... I bet the fly on the wall docu of behind the scenes at OT, the back-stabbing, intrigue, unlikely alliances and sheer lula level of drama would easily rival a top end Homeland season.
Pep Guardiola: "Raiola offered me Mkhitaryan and Pogba two months ago.
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Perhaps Agents have too much power and something should be done about it.
Very strange thing for Guardiola to say. Even if true surely you don't comment on players from other teams transfer wise unless you have agreed to sign them. Kind of disrespectful to MU.
Yeah, did a bit of scrutiny on it, and your reading of it is right @padr81, he has been called a dog, and he is reacting vehemently against that.
Pep: So, finally the people discover my secrets. I am a bad guy. I am a coward. I don't understand why I am a so-bad guy, well I never (have spoken) with (Raiola), so (what) influenced (his) opinion (of me) I don't know. Maybe for you he will explain many things about me, but... Like, two months ago he offered me Mkhitarian and Pogba to play with us. Why?
Journo: Two months ago?
Pep: Yeah. Why the offer (to see if) we were interested in Mkhitarian and Pogba to play with us? So, I'm a bad guy, so he has to protect his players. So, he has to know that he cannot bring his players to a guy like me, like a dog. And comparing (me to) a dog is bad. It's not good. He has to respect ... dogs. [Nervous titter among press corps]
Journo: Did you not have space for Pogba here, then?
Pep. Pogba is an exceptional player. A top, top player.
Journo: When you were told that, what did you think of it, the situation?
Pep: I said no. We don't have money enough to buy Pogba. Because he's so expensive.
Journo: But you must have been surprised that that was even a possibility
Pep: Why - surprised because I am a dog. So that's why, (I am) so like a dog he wouldn't chance to join his players to here. So, no.
Journo: Two months ago?
Pep: Yeah. Why the offer (to see if) we were interested in Mkhitarian and Pogba to play with us? So, I'm a bad guy, so he has to protect his players. So, he has to know that he cannot bring his players to a guy like me, like a dog. And comparing (me to) a dog is bad. It's not good. He has to respect ... dogs. [Nervous titter among press corps]
Journo: Did you not have space for Pogba here, then?
Pep. Pogba is an exceptional player. A top, top player.
Journo: When you were told that, what did you think of it, the situation?
Pep: I said no. We don't have money enough to buy Pogba. Because he's so expensive.
Journo: But you must have been surprised that that was even a possibility
Pep: Why - surprised because I am a dog. So that's why, (I am) so like a dog he wouldn't chance to join his players to here. So, no.
Very bitter against that agent, that is for sure. I don't think its strategic, or if so that's just secondary to putting a wedge between Raiola and his players, and doing as much damage to the agent as possible.
Possible.
Sorry. Edit. Read it wrong
I bet this stuff goes on in football every week - as soon as someone's benched their agent starts hitting the phone. Luke Shaw has probably been offered to every club under the sun for example and I'd bet City players have been offered to United along the way.
pre-derby there's next to nothing at stake so they need something to make it juicy, which will now allow a flood of articles about 'what if Pep had Pog', 'did Sanchez choose right?', 'KDB's escape from Mou'.
pre-derby there's next to nothing at stake so they need something to make it juicy, which will now allow a flood of articles about 'what if Pep had Pog', 'did Sanchez choose right?', 'KDB's escape from Mou'.
Yup still wish he hadn't done it though, don't want him getting into a war of words with Jose. It nearly broke him last time.
Ffs precious wankers.
What power?
Hehe. Good one, Pep. Nice mind games. 5/7.
Pep crying cuz City got smoked at Anfield
What do you mean what power? They obviously have a big hand in major transfers these days and given these latest allegations, it's as though we have agents going behind the backs of clubs. For me this is wrong.
Yeah don't let fact get in the way of this thread Katie
Poor guy will probably get burnt out again. As long as Jose and him are in the same league He'll never be able to live in peace.
They're both like arch-enemies and Jose can be a prick, He likes these type of things and now has Raiola on his side. Wrong move Pep.
They're both like arch-enemies and Jose can be a prick, He likes these type of things and now has Raiola on his side. Wrong move Pep.
I completely agree with these posts. The Sanchez move has clearly unsettled Pogba and I would be surprised if Raiola wasn't shopping him around every big club in Europe to get him a better contract (either at United or elsewhere).
If he wants a better contract his best approach would be to start playing better.
Yeah, we should thank a saint Pep for putting this in public for the media to start writing shit like they always do with out club.
What a noble saint, now they’ll have something to write about instead of City’s big loss rob Liverpool.
We knew what we were in for when we got Pogba back. Pep butting his nose into the matter is another matter. Classless as usual for him to be mentioning about other clubs players and getting away with it scot free.
Yes we all know. The issue is that some City fans are pushing the agenda that Pep is a saint and has no ulterior motives for saying this in a press conference right before the derby.
The whole thing is a shit show. Nobody comes out free of the stench that has been created from it.
That will explain all the knives they’ve given Klopp and Poach
Pep football coach and also detective like Sherlock Holmes.Absolutely loathe this shitbag. And we should give Pogba an ultimatum to sack this cnut or feck off. Fergie was right all along. I don't want that pizza-baking obese anywhere near my club.
Don't think this idiot scares anyone. Right now Pep is the one sitting comfortably almost about to win the league. Let's change that next season but let's also stop giving cnutish angents like Raiola such an influence at our club.
For those saying he did this intentionally to unsettle Man Utd before the derby, what will he gain by this when the league is already won?
That would be the least of our worries if what Pep said is true (and I think it is). Just goes on to show that we need to stay away from such agents and reassess Pogba's dedication to the cause (if he voiced a desire to leave to his agent).
I thought Zlatan hated Pep.. and that meant Riola hated Pep.
And offering Mikhi to clubs in Jan is hardly shocking.
The Pogba one is harder to believe.. but if it was around the time we were signing Sanchez on big wages, it might have been an attempt to strengthen the negotiating position for a renewal. Nothing happened and Pogba has been dogshit since.. Probably a coincidence.. or not.
And offering Mikhi to clubs in Jan is hardly shocking.
The Pogba one is harder to believe.. but if it was around the time we were signing Sanchez on big wages, it might have been an attempt to strengthen the negotiating position for a renewal. Nothing happened and Pogba has been dogshit since.. Probably a coincidence.. or not.
The media will stop talking about how Klopp destroyed him just a few days back. Now the talk is about our marquee signing offering himself to one of our biggest rivals.
But Pogba giving the nod to actually approach City is what stings. I can understand not being happy with your coach and looking for different options, but to actually consider moving to City is deplorable and I am being mild.
I have always backed the players when it comes to Jose, but if this is true then Pogba can do one. He truly is a mercenary and we should have seen those signs when he screwed over Le Havre for us and then us for Juve.
Yup, He has too much power as an agent in my opinion but I'm sure Ed knows about it and hopefully can 'play' along with him. Good thing is Ibra and Mkhi already left so Raiola has less power. And even if He doesn't scare anyone, surely you would rather avoid his shite? By responding like that, Pep opened up more opportunities for Raiola to talk shite about him in public.
And knowing Pep, it could affect him.
I do believe Pogba wanted out and maybe he still does.
It’s more likely Pogba is too expensive for Guardiola who felt Gundogan could do the same job for less. City were after all intrested in Pog before it became clear what he would cost. The guy is a phenomenal player when used correctly.
To be fair not too many top players will tolerate jm methods. Look at what happened at Real Madrid. Parking the bus is nonsensical and would never be accepted there and neither should here.
This is the pick of the posts in this thread in my opinion.
Was peps presser before mourinhos? Might explain why Mourinho was so moody in his.
That's not power though, that's just influence.
It was. Good point. If he had got wind of that he would not have been happy.
The quotes came later. No way jose knew what pep had said.
The reaction will come from jsoe depending on what we do today.
If Guardiola said these things in order to weaken United today, he probably made a mistake. Raiola's personal attack on him was brutal and ugly, but Guardiola's response may backfire big time. If they fail to win today, they won't believe that they will be able to beat Liverpool. And then they visit Spurs. The first half of April could be the worst part of the season for them.
Having any influence is power. You know exactly what he means buddy surely.