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Phil Jones 2017-18 Performances

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6.2 Average rating
25 Appearances
15 Clean sheets
3 Yellow cards
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  1. May 19, 2018

    Ekeke Full Member

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    Just remember that this isnt the kind of match we play every week. He's been fine against most teams in the league. But if you ever wanted a match with a better CB playing, then one where Hazard is running at your defence centrally is probably that type of game.

    I said before in the match thread, that moment with Hazard reminded me of Torres Vs. Vidic. Vidic was completely at sea against him and made errors, and it happened in more than 1 match. It doesnt mean Vidic wasnt a great CB though. It just means it was a very bad matchup for Vidic where he would get exposed against that certain opponent or style of player.
  2. May 19, 2018

    Kag Full Member

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    Who'd be a defender at Manchester United?

    Making any mistakes will have you hung, drawn and quartered because any goal conceded against a half decent side is usually what defines the match. Because we sure as feck weren't scoring today.

    It was a bad error, but Jones isn't even close to being the problem. He's had a very good season when fit.
  3. May 19, 2018

    Siorac Full Member

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    Again, why doesn't Mourinho play the defenders that he signed?
  4. May 19, 2018

    Cassidy No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser

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    Please don't ask sensible questions.
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    Chairman Steve Full Member

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    I’m amazed he got taken to the World Cup ahead of Smalling.

    Yeah he made the boo-boo which made us lose the game but he’s so inconsistent performance wise and fitness wise to trust if we want to win the things we want to win.
  6. May 19, 2018

    Di Maria's angel Captain of Moanchester United

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    Well, it changes the game. Chelsea never moved out of their half after they scored. Plus, we had plenty of chances to score today.
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    Kag Full Member

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    Plenty of chances to score my ring.

    Pogba headed the ball wide from a corner and Rashford had a powerful shot on goal. We created sod all.
  8. May 19, 2018

    MuranoLover Full Member

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    We must sell him and I hope he makes a great WC and we sell him . Not happening though
  9. May 19, 2018

    Litch Full Member

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    Jury is always out with this lad and just when you think he's turned a corner, he's either injured or makes a game changing error...
  10. May 19, 2018

    Loublaze ATLien

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    He'll be immense at the WC
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    Di Maria's angel Captain of Moanchester United

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    Matic had a shot saved, Rashford had a shot saved, Pogbas deflected header, Rashford missed a good chance at the end of the first half, plenty of failed corners and free kicks. I mean, what the feck do you want?
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    vangagal Full Member

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    Time to cut lose then. Its been 7 years.
  13. May 19, 2018

    A-man Full Member

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    You are right, but what Jones did today does not fall in to the category "mistakes", it is poor judgement (and poor positioning).
  14. May 19, 2018

    Litch Full Member

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    Agree 100%. Just can't be trusted....
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    Ekeke Full Member

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    Unfortunately some CBs dont face that same backlash. When Bailly makes a mistake he doesnt get the same reaction as our English CBs.

    But yeah its a really toxic treatment of Smalling & Jones in particular.
  16. May 19, 2018

    Park's Petrified Pooch New Member

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    He actually makes 5 errors in one. Firstly he begins by backing away from the incoming long ball, presumably thinking of taking it down after it bounces. Then he realises Hazard is moving onto it and changes his mind. But instead of turning to run back towards goal, he squares himself up by turning the wrong way, meaning he’s now completely static as Hazars collects the ball. He gamely runs back, but takes the long way round to get on the inside, which is a double mistake because he’s so one footed that he always wants to make the tackle with his right foot and this would be easier from the outside, and it also takes him longer. The final coupe de grace is that of you watch it back Hazard does not at any stage draw his foot to shoot. He has no intention of shooting. He’s waiting for the tackle which Jones duly obliged with. An impossible tackle with the wrong foot. It was really something to behold.
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    Litch Full Member

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    Our previous CB generally lost goals through individual brilliance but now it's often down to individual errors. All our defenders have it in them....
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    el3mel Full Member

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    We lost the final thanks to him, what are you expecting ?
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    vangagal Full Member

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    If not for Fergie's Duncan Edwards mantra on him, i dont believe he will last 7 long years here. We have Sanchez for good 6 months and people already want to get rid but this Phil Jones still makes people believe him will come good?
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    Ever occurred to anyone that Duncan Edwards might have been flawed too, and not some perpetually perfect mythical footballer, that he was posthumously declared?

    Charlton played with him and made the comparison - he’s certainly qualified to make the statement.
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    RonaldoVII Full Member

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    Time to go, Jones.
  22. May 19, 2018

    Devil may care Full Member

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    He's unreliable due to his injury prone nature but I thought he was a bit unlucky today on the goal, Hazard's technique and pace just did him.
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    abdo99 Full Member

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    How was he not sent off? Can anyone explain?
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    FootyGirl88

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    Unlucky? The guy just doesn't think.
    There was no need for him to go to ground with the angle Hazard was at.
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    SSSSnake Full Member

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    New rule change from a year or two ago. Double jeopardy. Basically no red card if he attempted to go for the ball.
  26. May 19, 2018

    U99ted Full Member

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    Poor on the penalty, but we have more pressing issues than our CBs like Jones. If we had even close to a decent attack, one goal wouldn't be beating us. Take the league cup final of 2010. A much better CB gave away a penalty to put us 1-0 down. The likes of Rooney and Owen meant we still won.
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    abdo99 Full Member

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    Didn't know about that. I was fearing the worst when he made the tackle.
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    11101 Full Member

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    Yet again a brainless moment of panic and it costs us, only this time on a massive stage. How many times do we need to see the zoomed in camera angle of that gormless look him and Smalling have when they cost us a goal. Smalling has established himself as useful through his consistency but there is no point keeping Jones around any more. He just doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes.
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    Kostov Full Member

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    A goal against Stoke, an own goal disallowed against Chelsea in the league (luckily), an own goal against Spurs, stupid penalty today, what more do some of you need? Feck him, not fecking good enough. End off, he should be sold.
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    Wilt New Member

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    Brainless lump of a defender, who's simply just not good enough. I hope that was his last game for Utd.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    How are you comparing a final against Aston Villa to a final against Chelsea ? Giving Chelsea a stupid goal to defend on just gave them a huge advantage. They're poor going forward, they were never going to score except with this and you gave them this and let them play to their strength by defending the whole game. It's absolutely mental.

    This just shows how clueless is he and how we're dependent on De Gea and Smalling only in defending. Doing such a mistake in a final, fecking hell. Sums him up.

    Should be thrown out to a midtable club in summer.
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    Lightbringer New Member

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    If Jones had gotten the ball slightly and nudged it forward a few inches, would is still have been a penalty then as he took down Hazard? I think Hazard is basicly positioning himself to "fall into" Jones and is selling it.
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    Swift Football New Member

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    Never liked him, even when he is fully fit. But I dont blame him for today. Mistakes do happen in match, our team should be able to create and score, especially when enough time is remaining in the match.

    And another thing, who will we start instead of Jones? Rojo, Bailly, Lindelof all have weaknesses. The real problem is JOnes is still starting after we spend 30M on Bailly and 40M on Lindelof. At this rate, we can spend 1billion dollars and same back 4 would be starting after 5 years.
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    Eddy_JukeZ Full Member

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    I just don't trust him in big games and he's just so clumsy out there.

    Always has a mistake out there.
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    Zoo Full Member

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    His top level is Everton. He’d be a decent replacement for Jagielka.
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    Yup as usual there is a feckin stupid narrative that jones was getting lynched

    If a Chelsea player done that to us today no goal. (I mean unsureness going for the initial ball or dropping off) Hazard was world class for that one moment today and that was the difference. Touch into space, body shape, crossed jones path and was 3 yards from goal what if jones just let him shoot. He had to make that tackle or at least attempt it.

    One world class moment separated 2 teams who basically cancelled each other out for the rest of the game
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    Bojan11 Full Member

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    Torres bulldozed past Ferdinand. Nothing was ever made out of it.

    The issue is with Jones these performances are far too frequent.

    He had a similar situation against Arnautovic where he dives in and was lucky that Arnautovic stayed on his feet. He doesn’t think and these sort of challenges are happening too many times.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt

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    Twice he's fecked us at Wembley this season. Get him out.
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    U99ted Full Member

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    Well tbf Aston Villa didn't have a Hazard. And you might have forgotten, but Smalling made mistakes that got himself sent off in a final (plus an own goal in a semi final). Even with a Jones screwup, we shouldn't be going 70 minutes without getting a goal back.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    Smalling hasn't fecked us up in a final like what Jones did. The sent off in 2016 final wasn't of that important, actually if I remembered correctly it stopped a Palace counter attack.
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