Miracle that he may return healthy
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He played for his country, they got six points, he came back unscathed, he'll start at the weekend and then get a forced rest during the week (CL ban et all)... everyone is satisfied
Dare i say he's better than Bailly at the moment, and probably will be for the rest of their respective careers and i rate Bailly when saying this. Jones just has to stay fit and he can be one of United's greatest signings ever
The boom bust cycle of Phil Jones' United career. On talent and potential he can be the best English centre half, he has all the tools. Just praying...if he can keep fit the majority of the season then we're laughing.
Since he joined United, he has had a minimum of two major injuries(out for a month or more) and a few minor injuries every season without fail. It's a miracle that he can play at such a high level despite his body suffering so many injuries. He is just 25, a year older than Lingard. But it looks like he has been playing for a long time and has been injured for an even longer time. If Jose can somehow get Jones through a whole season without any major injuries, that will be the greatest achievement of his career 
Another international break in a months time.
I'm not sure about that.
Bailly is very young, and we have only seen him play one full season in English football, and one season in La Liga. We really don't know much about him yet and he's got a lot of time to improve and hone his game. For me, it's impossible to say where Bailly will end up in terms of quality.
We know a lot more about Jones, and the one thing truly holding him back is injuries. It doesn't seem likely he's going to all of a sudden become resilient and be able to play 40+ games a season, but I hope I am wrong.
I definitely don't agree with the last sentence. He still has some way to go to even be considered remotely close to Ferdinand, Vidic and Stam. All three were candidates for being the best centre backs in world football at the time they played for us, and will be considered among the club's best ever signings, especially Vidic given the price and his relative obscurity. I rate Jones and I really want him to succeed, but can you really say he's going to be the best defender on earth? I don't see it.
MmjBailly reminds me a lot of Kolo Toure in his first few seasons at Arsenal; not a slight on him, but he's very rash and needs to tone that down to really complete his game.
Jones for me reads the game so much better, and working with Jose has definitely seen him adopt a more calculated approach to when to attack the ball and when to sweep up.
Had some aggro for echoing Capello's early Baresi comparison, but I genuinely see a lot of similarities in both players. Franco was rugged yet refined, and this version of Jones projects that.
Stoke 2:2 Man Utd
Ugh. Don't do this to us again Phil.
Not has best today.
That's fecking criminal defending. You'd crucify a striker falling over like that never mind a centre back.
As a CB, that is unforgiveable.
Sigh.
At a crucial stage too.
At a crucial stage too.
He'll always feck you up. Not good enough.
Bailly and Jones costing us today
Thought he'd been fine today but that was a huge mistake. Not sure what he was doing, whether he was playing for a foul or what I don't know.
Have to take the blame for his performance today. I brought him into my fantasy team
Just when you thought he's stepping up a crucial moment comes and he lets you down.
It was hardly a calamitous error. He's otherwise been our best defender again. The over reactions are amusing
He looked like a clown falling over on his ass... he has been good this season so far though
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I just don't rate him. Too many stupid fecking mistakes
Bit unlucky as for about 99% of matches so far this season he's looked excellent. But that moment has cost us the points today.
Was good all game and season and then does that after a fantastic DDG save.
Him and Bailly cost us the two points today. None of the other players particularly played bad but they were awful for both of the goals.
I blame him for this draw. What is he, a piece of wet tissue paper? That weakness was disgusting.
Don't know what counts as calamitous but we're allowed to point out that he cost us a goal by falling over like a plank. I'm not interested in how 'humorous' it was.
A bad day for both him and Bailly. It happens but sometimes you need your attack to bail you out and they didn't do that today.
This is why I don't rate him. He's been good when he's had very little to do, but when faced with a proper challenge he has quite a few mistakes like this in him.
Never trust Jones on defending crosses. That Giroud one springs to mind.
Blamed heavily for their second goal and he looked shaky as hell just as his partner.
He was generally decent, but poor for the goal. Having said that all our defence wasn't exactly great today so I won't single him out other than that 1 moment for their 2nd goal.
Two goals away to Stoke should do the job. This isn't on the attack even if we could have done better attacking wise. Bailly and Jones both gave this away.
Big error, but it happens to every defender, even some of the greats. Difference is the Youtube generation are only exposed to the good bits.
He's more of a sweeper than a brute, that's why Smalling is the perfect foil for him. He'd have dealt with that unit up front a lot better than Phil and Bailly, and Jose has to take responsibility not selecting accordingly.
Let's not pretend one error is enough to undo the progress he's made this season.
English feckin defenders... I swear. 
At least he's not injured.
At least he's not injured.
Either way I am not that fussed. Stoke Away can be a tough fixture for anyone in the league.
No idea what happened to those two during the national team break but it wasn't good. Looked like completely different players to those that defended so well during the first three game of the season.
English feckin defenders... I swear.
At least he's not injured.
yet
Bailly isn't English.English feckin defenders... I swear.
At least he's not injured.
Him and Bailly cost us 2 points. He was solid for most of the game but a lapse in concentration ruined it.
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