That means nothing really does it? plenty of other CB's around the world can kick a ball into a net.
Yes it's a shoot out and a lottery, but it's just the cherry on the cake with another rubbish performance.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Yes it's a shoot out and a lottery, but it's just the cherry on the cake with another rubbish performance.
Yes. Plenty of top strikers can also fail to kick a ball into a net
Crazy the difference between a fan favourite and someone who isn’t.
Jones didn’t play well but neither did Bailly. Bailly was at fault for their second goal but no ones mentioning that, everyone’s just in here, and it feels like people are just shitting on him purely for missing a penalty.
Have people also forgotten how one ball managed to get in behind both of them for the Romero red card.
Jones is not good and Bailly is heavily overrated.
Jones didn’t play well but neither did Bailly. Bailly was at fault for their second goal but no ones mentioning that, everyone’s just in here, and it feels like people are just shitting on him purely for missing a penalty.
Have people also forgotten how one ball managed to get in behind both of them for the Romero red card.
Jones is not good and Bailly is heavily overrated.
Shhh, there are people (and quite a lot of them) who think Bailly is a world class defender
Some of the people getting on their high horses in this thread are bizarre. For me it’s not the fact Jones missed the penalty, I can forgive that. It’s that even before Jones stepped up to take the penalty I knew he was the one who was going to miss. Combine that with his dire performance(s) and perpetual injuries (to himself and other members of the squad caused by him), he simply is not good enough and I’d hazard to say that actually in hindsight he probably never was good enough. He has rarely ever been in position and is always having to throw himself around to make up ground, just a footballer bereft of composure regardless of his form; it’s just more evident when he is in poor form.
Personally I thought Lukaku’s penalty was also atrocious and he was lucky Carson went the wrong way, otherwise that would have been saved the same as Jones’.
Personally I thought Lukaku’s penalty was also atrocious and he was lucky Carson went the wrong way, otherwise that would have been saved the same as Jones’.
Please explain why it's nonsense, until then your post comes across as very ironic.
Nope. He said the truth. On highest level( as playing for Man Utd in Pl is) you must be complete football player.
But doesn't matter, we are here talking about simple ball control. He is fecking football player who can't play with his foot.
I've seen better performances in Sunday league.
I can't really hate on him. He should've been moved on a long time ago. He isn't picking himself.
I think we should pay a club to take him.
This is Mourinho making the best of what he's got...
I am boring with this but i can't help myself because this is just best decription that i have ever heard of any player.
" Everything is last ditch for him" - Alan Shearer.
Against Derby it was the same. Throwing himself in front of attackers, last second tackles, last second passes. And also it is not just penalty, first goal was on him( and Bailly). How can you allow long ball to only attacker? What are you doing? They have ball, you are on your defending position so ....how?
" Everything is last ditch for him" - Alan Shearer.
Against Derby it was the same. Throwing himself in front of attackers, last second tackles, last second passes. And also it is not just penalty, first goal was on him( and Bailly). How can you allow long ball to only attacker? What are you doing? They have ball, you are on your defending position so ....how?
The Romero Red Card is typical Phil Jones though. Where is he when the ball is played? He's on the left side of the pitch (???) and he's jogging. At least Bailly was there trying to stop the ball. No idea why Jones is so far away from Bailly during that moment.
What a really bizarre thing to say! He made the keeper dive in the wrong direction and didn't mishit the ball. Standard good penalty.
hate this cnut
Blind would have scored his penalty.
Vidic was a great CB for us. He wasnt a particularly good passer and you wouldnt want him taking a penalty.
At United we need specialists like Vidic, not jack of all trades like you're suggesting
If Phil Jones could defend half as well as his fanboys defend his honor, he would be up there with Maldini and the rest of them.
I mean, he could've just trusted Blind instead of selling him. The same Blind who, when played as a CB, outperformed all of our current ones bar Smalling.
I thought Vidic was a decent passer. Compared to Rio he'd obviously look very limited, but if we had him right now I think he'd probably be our most reliable passer as far as our current CBs go.
He just played sideways passes like Smalling. I think he was capable of doing more than that, but he didnt risk it.
For the most part, yeah. Like Smalling, I do remember him playing some really nice ones on the odd occasion, and he could always find our CM between the lines when opting to go forwards instead of sideways which contributed to our good build up play. Especially in 06/07 - I remember us being pretty efficient due to our defenders being calm when playing out from the back, being able to find Carrick and Scholes to supply the forwards on the break instead of just clearing it upfield.
I've criticised Smalling's ball playing abilities a lot, but I do wish he'd be a bit more adventurous because I have seen him play some really nice ones as well. Guess that comes down to confidence and said players feeling like they know their limits.
Yeah I agree. I think when Vidic first came he tried some long passes which were pretty decent too. But then after a while he played within himself with his passing, to not take risks at the back. By the eyes of todays posters I think Vidic would be complained about because he isnt a "ball playing CB". But he was one of the most dominant clearers of the ball I've ever seen.
Agreed!
It's what I loved about Vidic and Smalling's respective partnerships with Rio and Blind. They just brought the best out of eachother. Like, I felt Blind could be comfortable bringing the ball forwards because he knew Smalling was capable of sweeping up balls behind/holding off attackers long enough for us to get back into a defensive shape/winning said ball back, and that he could press a bit higher up because of this, too. And Smalling looked as comfortable as ever playing out from the back because Blind, in my opinion, installed a sense of calmness in possession at the back. Had Blind been partnered with another one of our CBs I don't think he would've done as well and I think Smalling looked as good as ever next to Blind, too.
Sorry, I went way off topic here!
I liked Phil Jones, how did I develop such a dislike for him over the last 10 months baffles me. There have been couple of big time feck ups, that I can't get over with him.
Yep and he was better looking too
Fixed that one for you.
True.
But Baily was not responsible for the 1st goal - Jones, was.
And lest we forget, Jones conceded the penalty last season, in the FA Cup Final. The tactics and game plan were sound for that match. Unfortunately, Jones had a brain-fart that day, too.
It seems that Jones has a mistake in him (which may lead to a goal), in virtually every match he plays.
Romero was also having a go at this clown for his sending off and he isn't really a type of player who'd have a go at his team mates so Jones must've fecked up something in the process too, I cannot be bothered to re-watch this garbage though.
His confidence is shot. Plus I think his time at a top level club has run out. He needs to do a jonny evens and go to a midtable club to re-establish himself. A move to an Everton or watford would be really good for him.
His facial expressions are worth his weekly wage alone.Keep him.He's hilarious.
Give it time we may just be that club.
Watched the game again, he actually wasn't that bad during the game. But scape the shit out of him, I don't care. He does not fit with any of our other defenders. Smalling doesn't have the communication, Bailly just means there are two loose units out there and I don't want to see Lindelof or Rojo play beside him. No fecking way.
What a shame for him to be honest, I kind of feel sorry for him but that is football unfortunately. Needs to be let go at the end of the season.
What a shame for him to be honest, I kind of feel sorry for him but that is football unfortunately. Needs to be let go at the end of the season.
I've been saying this forever. This guy belongs in a team like Sunderland.
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I don't trust this club to do the right thing.
He will get new contract.
wtf. Jones had nothing to do with he red. Wilson was man marked by Bailly and Dalot.
What is his status? Jose doesn't mention him at all. I am glad if he is finally finished here.
But i am curious how we will resolve his situation. If he is finished here.; release him on free next summer or trigger contract extension and try to sell him. But who will buy him and for how much?
But i am curious how we will resolve his situation. If he is finished here.; release him on free next summer or trigger contract extension and try to sell him. But who will buy him and for how much?
Stealing a wage. Think it's staggering he's not been told to feck off.
He is on the bench again
. He has some naked pictures of Ed or Jose. No other explanationWhy? Bailly has been atrocious so far this season, and Jones was comfortably better than him last season as well.He is on the bench again
I want Jones sold (and have for a couple of seasons), but the reality is that based on performances he deserves the spot ahead of his competitors at the moment.
Bailly has been at the club two minutes and needs confidence. I would say Bailly should be given an opportunity to redeem himself before we see this guy again.
He's not even that good when he's fit. You'd think he's Messi the way we persist with him.
He's not even that good when he's fit. You'd think he's Messi the way we persist with him.
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