ArmchairCritic
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He does a job in midfield but offensively he doesn't have the foggiest.
Robson post alcoholic phase? as long as this is just a ploy to make him a better defender, I'm not too fussed but I do feel in a 3 man midfield, and give him the role to just sit.. he'd be fine. Its when you release the shackles that he loses discipline and comes across clueless.Another Robson-esque display.
Clearly they are...Incredibly limited in his offensive abilities from CM. When Anderson came on the improvement was massive. Are our coaching staff seeing something the rest of the world is missing here?
I'd rather Rooney was our long term midfield solution than Jones, if it HAD to be either of them. He's good at buzzing around and pressing when off the ball, but he's not a threat going towards the other box. It's not really part of his skillset.Why won't Fergie just blood him at CB? I honestly think that he can be the best in the world in that position. Lets hope that SAF doesn't think that Jones is the solution in midfield
Please no. Keane had a lot of other things as well, which Jones lacks.I think SAF sees him as the closest thing we've seen to Keano
How many of us saw Keano at 20, 21? I'm sure some of you watched Keano at Forest and if you did you make a fair comparison between the two a the same age. I didn't, so I'm not prepared to pass judgment on Jones relative to Keano at this stage of their careers.Please no. Keane had a lot of other things as well, which Jones lacks.
I didn't watch him at Forest, but I did follow him for most of his United career.How many of us saw Keano at 20, 21? I'm sure some of you watched Keano at Forest and if you did you make a fair comparison between the two a the same age. I didn't, so I'm not prepared to pass judgment on Jones relative to Keano at this stage of their careers.
I agree. Jones looks like a natural CB to me. My view, however, is that we can't completely write him off as a potential CM just yet. Bt the smart money says long term Jones is a CB.I didn't watch him at Forest, but I did follow him for most of his United career.
The thing I am trying to say is, Keane was a proper CM, who played in the center of the park throughout his career. Jones on the other hand has played at the back mostly. He is sort of a hit-and-a-miss player in the final third, which Keane was not.
Sure we have seen him running with the ball from the back a couple of times, but that doesn't really tells that he can play Keane's role in the future matches.
Second half especially.I think Jones played well yesterday. Broke up play and got himself into good positions in the box.
You'd have spent the weekend comfort eating, so.Jones will become our new O'Shea. Probably a bit better, but no different in terms of lockin down a position as his own.
Hes not a CM. If I were Anderson Id be pissed off.
Did you see his 2 great runs into the box yesterday? Should have had at least hit the target with the first header and was unlucky with the 2nd - I know noodle was taking the piss about but it really was 'Robson-esque'Jones is a centre back for me.
Anderson pissed off because of what? He's nowhere near been good enough to be pissed off about losing his place to anyone.
Because Dembele can't pass for toffee?What I don't get is that if we're not confident enough to trust Anderson as our midfield driving force, and understandably so, why didn't we make a move for Dembele in the summer? Personally I think Dembele is slightly overhyped, but if the staff are so insistent on having a midfield driving force I don't get why we've resorted to making the most of a centre back's physical attributes when a ready made midfielder was available last summer.
Are you on a WUM?Because Dembele can't pass for toffee?
Nope. Although probably guilty of exaggerating to make a point.Are you on a WUM?
Agree with you there Pogue, I think he's a decent passer of the ball but no more than that. I was talking purely in the sense of him being a driving force. If we're looking to play with one against the top teams, I'd much rather have Dembele who can be trusted to complete a match as opposed to a 60 minute Ando showing or a game of Jones there, who technically looks out of his depth at times.I don't think Dembele is very good at passing the ball, put it that way. He would be an upgrade on Anderson - with a lot of similar qualities - but that in itself is not a reason to sign him.
I don't think that he is a particularly adventurous passer of the ball but he certainly looks after possession well. I think that he is probably worth what Tottenham paid for him, no more though. He would be useful for us but I am not ruing missing out on him.Nope. Although probably guilty of exaggerating to make a point.
I don't think Dembele is very good at passing the ball, put it that way. He would be an upgrade on Anderson - with a lot of similar qualities - but that in itself is not a reason to sign him.