£88.5m Mudryk - £85m Antony.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Alexa, play Fools Garden - Lemon Tree.
What about them?
Yep. it’s an interesting deflection from @duffer as he’s accepted Antony is the better player and Mudryk is garbage. Going to the value, and getting it wrong, to try and prove some kind of point is most strange
"Chelsea will pay €70m (£62m) up front and €30m (£26.5m) in add-ons, which include winning the Champions League, Premier League and other individual performance-related conditions."
https://www.skysports.com/football/...or-arsenal-target-and-shakhtar-donetsk-winger
I don't think any of those addons relate to "score no goals" or "finish 12th" somehow!
If we win the Champs League or Premier League then fair enough.
Don’t they add up to the equation ?
He’s on almost decade worth of contract for someone that didn’t score much goals in the Ukrainian league either
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Leaves a sour taste in the mouth, doesn’t it
Just gonna go with the stock excuse used here for underperforming united managers, can't be a hypocrite now.
"It's the players. They've downed tools and are throwing him under the bus. They did the same to the last (insert number of past managers here) managers. Board has to back him and get those wasters put of the club etc."
"It's the players. They've downed tools and are throwing him under the bus. They did the same to the last (insert number of past managers here) managers. Board has to back him and get those wasters put of the club etc."
He? I don't think Pochettino wanted to spend £200m on defensive midfielder.
What I m confused about is the sporting director there at Chelsea. Last season, chelsea only scored 38 goals. Their highest goalscorer was 10 goals I believe. With those numbers it would make more sense to spend £120m on oshimen or even Kane, rather than Caceido. Moreover, their best player was felix yet they didn't keep him.
It seems a lot of the project is focused on nkunku because from what I remember, the reason they didn't keep felix was because of nkunku signing and the reason, they didn't sign a top striker as well was because nkunku partnered well with Jackson. So when nkunku get injured, what was their contingency plan? They didn't have one. So, they are in the mess they are in.
Even I realized that you can't soley rely on nkunku, so I don't know why their sporting directors didn't realize that as well.
But it also means they are playing well and creating chances. As you mentioned, they are just lacking someone that is good at finishing. I prefer the team I support have good underlying stats, because it means the gameplan is working. Just that the quality isn't there.
Jackson good at defensive stats for a striker, (heck he even the first of the player to get suspended, perhaps he is also a defensive midfielder) but he needs to improve his offensive one.
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Thats why I hate it when stats hipsters talk about the "underlying numbers" and make it seem like xG is the main statistic and a measure of the better team. Finishing is a skill and if a team is bad at finishing, they'll underperform their xG. That's not bad luck. Chelsea lack somemone good at finishing therefore they underperform their xG.
I don't think it's fair to judge him on this. Chelsea are a mess. Tuchel and Potter both struggled under Boehly.
If you want to compare them for both players to add in to the equation.
Mudryk is on £100K a week over an 8 1/2 year contract. Antony is on £200K a week on a 5 year contract (with an option for a 6th year). So if they both never play again, sit our their contracts and leave on frees then Antony is costing a lot more.
Both wages taken from Spotrac for consistency.
For some reason, if a club spends money, some people assume the manager spent it with his own debit card or something.
Amazing Ten Hag finished 3rd and won a trophy (lost a final too) with no recognised CF bar Weghorst.
Can’t Chelsea cope given they’ve spent a billion quid plus?
Can’t Chelsea cope given they’ve spent a billion quid plus?
Who?
One of the owners. They're in the changing rooms after pretty much every game.
Difference is Antony seems playable and most likely won’t sit on his contract compared to Mudryk who most likely will be loaned out 5-6 times during that time, whilst you cover those wages.
One of them might be number of performances, but Mudryk is not likely to trigger enough of them to get up to the same fee as we paid for Antony. Still, I'd saý they are in the same category of transfer fee. When you get to that €70-100m range, you expect to get someone that will be a quality starter fairly quick. Neither Antony or Mudryk is that, but Antony has certainly shown more.
This. It’s hilarious the excuses that are being made for them. Mainly by one individual right enough who claims to be a Utd fan as well.
They'll both be at different clubs next season to be fair.
He's trolling you, you do realise that don't you?
After every bad result... Which tbf makes your statement correct.
Boehly's partner in crime.
To be fair, Chelsea would kill for a player like Rashford.
I realised that ages ago but it’s carried on that long now it’s just sad. A very strange individual.
So long as people keep biting, he'll keep fishing.
Mudryk possibly on loan but doubt anyone is buying him on his 10 year contract
He's been doing it for 9 years, long before anybody else would have had any strong opinions either way on Poch to be wound up by it:
You'd have to be even more of a headcase to keep up some kind of elaborate trolling act for that long than if it's all just straight up.
I watched the whole game.
Just seemed the same old Chelsea to me of recent times.
Had the better chances and caught Villa on the break a lot, who were playing a really high line, but they weren't able to capitalise.
Sterling's finishing was abysmal. Chilwell and Jackson both had chances that they probably should have done better with.
Just seemed the same old Chelsea to me of recent times.
Had the better chances and caught Villa on the break a lot, who were playing a really high line, but they weren't able to capitalise.
Sterling's finishing was abysmal. Chilwell and Jackson both had chances that they probably should have done better with.
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Same narrative. Playing good football, creating chances, but can't finish. If anyone understands footballs, this shows a player quality issue.
It will take this chelsea team 10000 attempts to score the goal Bruno scored for us yesterday.
Oops wrong thread meant to be in the chelsea thread
I'm unsure. I think he's just a whack job tbh.
Have they ever been that bad under Roman apart from that 2015/16 Jose season? Shows you how important “good/strong” owners and leadership is.
probably looking for the twat who stole all the g&t garnish from the hospitality suite.
The issue isn't his squad. He obviously doesn't have enough (blue?) lemons and crystals knocking about the place.
I had never seen a super expensive side where I couldn't recognize most of the players' faces. I wonder if that's Poch's fault or just the owner's.
What is all the “lemon” references, I think I must have missed something?
god thats humiliating.