Raiola cares about Raiola.
The man really is a virus and I don’t get why people defend him - he takes money away from both player and club and gives nothing back but drama.
Pogba Future
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
The man really is a virus and I don’t get why people defend him - he takes money away from both player and club and gives nothing back but drama.
I think he seems a good agent, wouldn't mind him at all as a player. As a supporter of the club, I obviously wouldn't want us to deal with him very much, but he's a good agent for his players, takes care of them.
Only thing is sometimes his strategies are quite aggressive and backfire.
If Marcotti is right it could well be backtracking because Madrid can't front up the cash.
If memory serves, he did - yes. And he did so in order to force Rooney's "camp" (I forget his agent's name - Paul something or other) into making a move quickly: basically, take what's on the table or piss off.
He took what was on the table, as we know, which is what he was after: he only questioned United's ambitions as part of a ploy to get a better contract - and told his team mates just that when it was over. It was business, in short - fair enough, but I'd hardly laud Rooney, as some do, as some kind of visionary who saw through the Glazers' non-ambitious, money grabbing scheme.
Anyway, from Ole's perspective, right now - of course he'd rather keep Pogba and gamble on him being reasonably motivated for at least one more season: the "United in shambles" narrative is much harder to peddle with Pogba staying, seemingly content to be a part of Ole's rebuild. If that's how this ends, I think we should all be fairly pleased, actually.
Caveat: it obviously comes down to Pogba's own motivation, that goes without saying. If he starts to phone it in, we're in a bad place. But, again, I actually don't think he will do that. It's not in his best interest to do so.
I wouldn't want him at that price either.
Yes you would. Pogba will earn any club sponsored by Adidas close to £100m commercial revenue a season as long as he’s signed to Adidas. 5 year deal = £500m. He has 36m followers on Insta. Money maker.
It’s the reason we won’t accept any swap deals. Commercial revenue we lose can’t be made back by Madrid’s unwanted players.
Starting to feel like he'sdefinitely staying this season,the clubs social media accounts have been highlighting him a lot since the squad have been in Australia
Of course they have. Paul Pogba pics means more followers which in turn means Woody is happy
What a shit show 
, now doing PR bullshit so he can cross back a bridge he left behind months ago.
, now doing PR bullshit so he can cross back a bridge he left behind months ago.Both of those were forwards but most importantly they played in great teams. Yes they made those great teams better, both are better than Pogba for me, but I'm not sure particularly Cantona would function in this team.
We'll if United keep him I just hope the financial 'benefits' you outlined are somehow reflected on the pitch.
Poor guy just realised we won't sell for the price Madrid are offering
if he stays one more season or not, we still need a defensive midfielder than can actually run and another mid who can add something creatively
Not a chance, and Ronaldo would definitely have wanted to leave this season as well (if not earlier) if he'd been surrounded with a similar team and lack of success.
Ronaldo would be gone so fast you'd think his shorts were on fire.
Right now, I'd take Asensio and some dosh for Pogba just to get this done and over with (plus it might piss off the dippers)
but he'll have a strop/diva fit at some stage. he's a virus and should be cleaned out
So he knows Real don't have the money and he wants to stay so long as we invest in the squad. 
and his bank accountSo he knows Real don't have the money and he wants to stay so long as we invest in the squad.
Think he wants his £500k a week for a year and go to Real next year when they can afford him.So he knows Real don't have the money and he wants to stay so long as we invest in the squad.
Don't like him or his approach, but Raiola will always do what a player wants. His players do move a lot, but he also has Veratti and before Nedved, who was one of the best players in the world at the time and never made a beep when it came to transfers. Even went with Juventus to Serie B. The transfer to Juventus was also Lazio decision because of financial difficulties (was at the same time when they sold Veron to us).
Totally agree with you. Sir Alex summed him up perfectly when said they got "like oil and water".
Spot on.
Brilliant news if he stays. Add another creative MD and we will be fantastic going forward.
Agree. If this is just a hissy fit to get the club to show more ambition, then I hope it succeeds and we bring in some quality players to help him.
Or they’ve switched their attention to Neymar, which some reports are suggesting.So he knows Real don't have the money and he wants to stay so long as we invest in the squad.
they aren't smart. I said it earlier that nobody is serious about him especially when it would cost them more than 100m pounds. Madrid have bale on 600k per week. They aren't city or PSG that grow money on trees. They have to operate like the rest of us and sell before they can buy. Still he has made it clear he wants to leave. I would like an extra season out of him and if madrid still want him he can go next season which gives Ole time to sort out our problems.
Fantastic? How so?
Methinks there are still too many holes to address. This squad is hardly unchanged, except for AWB.
Can we achieve top four with a Lindelof - Smalling partnership? Same for McTominay/Matic as defensive minded midfielders.
Can we count on Martial to rise to the level he’s shown flashes, but not deliver on consistent basis?
Can Rashford carry the lone striker duties without a substitute that can be counted on such as Lukaku?
Who’s going to take on the right wing black hole? Mata can, but he shouldn’t be our first choice
Not knocking you for what you said. I just seriously don’t see how fantastic we can be with the moves we have/have not made.
And you cant blame him for it. David de Gea and Pogba can play and start for every team in the world yet they are stuck in a team with Smalling, Young, Jones, Jlingz and Matic as starters.
I love Manchester United but if a player wants to leave to win stuff (and be remembered as player because that is what winnning will do) than you can hardly blame them.
All the people who want Pogba gone... imagine how bad the team would be. Yes Manchester United might be able to sign a player who works harder (or atleast it will look like he works harder) but that player wont be as good or as talented as Paul Pogba.
As much as I'd be happy to see the back of him, if he really did want to stay, wanted reassurances of progression, I'd love for that to happen, but the club need reassurances he'll put the effort in every match rather than when he can be arsed
As much as I'd be happy to see the back of him, if he really did want to stay, wanted reassurances of progression, I'd love for that to happen, but the club need reassurances he'll put the effort in every match rather than when he can be arsed
It's fecking bizarre. Turns up for 10 games then thinks he can dictate transfer policy while suggesting he might be willing to take a pay rise. We know full well it will be the same crap next summer too.Why? We've been utter dog shit with him in the midfield for the last three years. What you think another player alongside him is going to mask that?!
cleaned out where. i want him gone as much as anyone, but there is no takers for anything like what we want to charge. There is one club legitimately interested in him and they can't afford him. Whether he stays or not we need more creativity in midfield.
Everybody is aware how talented he is. Problem is that sometimes he cannot be arsed and he's been one leg out of the club for a long time now. Don't want any player to be bigger than the club and sometimes it seems so like Pogba is. I'm sure in the future we'll buy a talented player who is arsed too. United history didn't start with Pogba and won't end with him leaving.
As for the latest news, seems he's backtracking cause Madrid or Juve won't splash the cash we want for him.
Saying all that it is time to add more players and quality ones.
Isco, Asensio and Ceballos in a straight swap for Pogba and I’d be happy.
About the reassurance part (assuming it's true), I get where the guy is coming from. No one wants to spend their peak years playing with Matic and Fred, while languishing for a top 4 finish.
But he doesn't seem to realise that he is part of the problem. It's clear that when he's arsed, he can put in the defensive work, and be a great midfielder. But he can't seem to/doesn't want to do that week in week out.
Ideally I would like him gone, but we already have so many positions to strengthen, and less time, doesn't make sense to sell him this summer.
Without him, our midfield goes from average to utterly shocking.
But he doesn't seem to realise that he is part of the problem. It's clear that when he's arsed, he can put in the defensive work, and be a great midfielder. But he can't seem to/doesn't want to do that week in week out.
Ideally I would like him gone, but we already have so many positions to strengthen, and less time, doesn't make sense to sell him this summer.
Without him, our midfield goes from average to utterly shocking.
He’s not bigger than the club he’s bigger than the squad and that is the real issue. The day us fans start to understand that the day we might actually start moving our frustrations away from players.
Fairly confident we wont bring in another central creative midfielder if Pogba remains.
Ole will hope Lingard and Mata is apt competition.
Ole,like Jose, will likely continue to add the legs around Pogba for him to shine offensively.
Ole will hope Lingard and Mata is apt competition.
Ole,like Jose, will likely continue to add the legs around Pogba for him to shine offensively.
First it was no pictures of him during the flight out, so that meant something was about to happen. Then the "spat" video - so there is unrest in the squad.
Now that media team are posting more pics of him and some even happy looking, wonder what story people will make up around that.
Now that media team are posting more pics of him and some even happy looking, wonder what story people will make up around that.
Does that amount to there being no issue with him at all? As in he never actually said he's looking for a new challenge and Mino is just having a laugh?