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@Damien
Can we add Ole to the poll? I know he is supposed to be an interim manager, but there is a saying that possession is 9/10 of the law.
Done.@mods
@Damien
Can we add Ole to the poll? I know he is supposed to be an interim manager, but there is a saying that possession is 9/10 of the law.
Mou was already past his best after he left Inter and it could be seen both with Real and Chelsea, despite some successes. The 400m were not well spent. Conte is younger and hungrier, in any case comparing him unfavourable with a second tier manager like Pochettino is just ridiculous. We will see if and when he will comeWe just sacked a manager that has been far more successful than Conte and actually won 2 UCL titles and numerous league titles in his career. He was given £400m to spend and still failed because of his cowardly tactics.
A manager that plays adventurous football will be backed and given time at United. The fans will also demand to be entertained.
Conte won feck all before he was given the Juve job, was my point due to your criticism of Poch not winning anything. And if winning Serie B counts, then Poch won the Catalunya cup twice ahead of Barcelona for Espanyol.Mou was already past his best after he left Inter and it could be seen both with Real and Chelsea, despite some successes. The 400m were not well spent. Conte is younger and hungrier, in any case comparing him unfavourable with a second tier manager like Pochettino is just ridiculous. We will see if and when he will come
you seem to be a bit too emotionally invested to have a fair and unclouded judgement mate.Conte won feck all before he was given the Juve job, was my point due to your criticism of Poch not winning anything. And if winning Serie B counts, then Poch won the Catalunya cup twice ahead of Barcelona for Espanyol.
The only Italian Coach I would take is Sarri due to style of play. I detested the way Conte set his team up at Chelsea. He behaved like an arsehole too, which we could really do without right now. Your success at Juve is down to your brilliant football structure, which was led by Marotta, Patriachi, Rybalta etc imo. The work them guys did to bring you guys to be amongst the best teams in europe was incredible. Something we should learn from.
First of all I'm not even overly keen on Pocchettino like some. My first choice would be Marco Rose who imo is a hot prospect as a coach and plays exciting attacking football.you seem to be a bit too emotionally invested to have a fair and unclouded judgement mate.
The comparison does not stand, because while Conte was certainly a bet the situation is very different because Conte had shown very promising managerial skills winning 2 serie B leagues besides being a former captain and knowing well the club, he had never managed in Serie A till then. So he won where he managed albeit in a lower division which is not easy anyway and then won the bet during his first Serie A experience and won 4 out of 5 Serie A or EPL that he played.
Pochettino has been managing in premier league and Liga for 9 years and he has won shit nothing, on the contrary the only time he went close to winning something he lost vs weaker on paper opposition.
Poch is not a bet is a certainty: he is a successful looser that is attractive for fans who are enticed by appearance over substance. All smoke and no roast like they say in the old Country
What are you talking about? Who is saying that United has to get a manager with just a Serie B under his belt?First of all I'm not even overly keen on Pocchettino like some. My first choice would be Marco Rose who imo is a hot prospect as a coach and plays exciting attacking football.
The thing you don't seem to be understanding is that, winning Serie B means nothing as far as getting a job like United. Conte got the Juventus job due to mainly being a ex Juve player. There was better candidates than Conte for the Juve job if the criteria was how successful they'd been at other clubs. Winning the second tier doesn't count for shit.
Also Conte plays crappy football imo from what we've seen in his last job, and I wouldn't want him anywhere near our club for that reason alone.
Guardiola and Zidane are two examples of coaches who were given the big job, on no experience at first team level and have been extremely successful. You probably would've been just as critical of them as you are of Pocchettino, right?
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Yes. He believes Pochettino should be the next United manager.Has Neville had his say on the manager situation?
My view is wider. I finds Neville views confusing and indecisive. I think Carragher has always spoken well. Recently more so on Utd. I think Neville has irrational loyalty to all managers. He sounds like a union rep all all managers. I've seen him duck/swerve yes or no questions on Utd for far too long.Has Neville had his say on the manager situation?
Pochettino has done more than enough in the 'English premier league' on a small budget to be considered for the United job. The argument that one has to have won trophies to be considered for such a job is foolish, considering our last two managers had won 3 UCL titles between them. Which is the same amount we've won in out history, and more than your club has in it's existence and they failed miserably. i've given you examples of two coaches who had won zilch before being given the reigns at Barca and Madrid and they've been hugely successful.What are you talking about? Who is saying that United has to get a manager with just a Serie B under his belt?
Even though a good manager can be seen also in serie B. Sacchi had only managed Parma in Serie B when he was picked by Berlusconi for Milan.
You keep making confusion and to be honest I think you do not understand what you are talking about. Exciting footballl vs crappy football is the kind of generic BS that keep being thrown around when there are no serious arguments. The point I was making and you keep missing is that the comparison between the situation of Conte when he started at Juve and Pochettino now is preposterous not because Conte had managed top team before coaching juve, but for the opposite reason that Pochettino has and in 9 years has won nothing. The issue is not that Pochettino has not proven himself, but on the contrary that he has for 9 years.
Like Di Matteo. Sarcasm aside, we need to think more than how Solskjaer performs the next five months but also how he might get on as Utd manager if he does take it on permanently. He is under no real pressure in these months, & whatever happens. even poorly, wont be held against him. This will all change once he is permanent, & there is no bigger pressurised job as the last three applicants have found. Going back to Di Matteo, he won the Champions League for Chelsea, as well as performing well in the league, & Chelsea thought obliged to give him the permanent job. Unfortunately, it soon became obvious he was a bit out of his depth & was soon sacked. The problem here is you get the impression if a similar thing happened to Solskjaer it would rumble on for years until he was given his marching orders. So any decision regarding his future must be seriously considered.Let's see how Ole does during this next few months. He might surprise us all.
Cardiff fans opinion here:Let's see how Ole does during this next few months. He might surprise us all.
Neville is too much the politician. I love his analysis but like most ex-players, he won't cross the club.My view is wider. I finds Neville views confusing and indecisive. I think Carragher has always spoken well. Recently more so on Utd. I think Neville has irrational loyalty to all managers. He sounds like a union rep all all managers. I've seen him duck/swerve yes or no questions on Utd for far too long....
Neville gets worked up at social media posts and gets emotional when managers get sacked. I'm not sure why. Maybe that stint at Valencia did something to him but his blind faith in managers makes him look silly when he can't back it with proper reasons.
I agree he's my first choice!There have been enough mentions for Tuchel for him to be on the list
For the last time I will try to explain my point that you keep ignoring repeating the same argument over and over again. Conte or Zidane or Guardiola have NOTHING to do with Pochettino. The point was not that it is a necessarily a bad idea to choose a manager with little experience in a top club, I made myself the example of Sacchi. A bet on a young and ambitious manager can be a bold move under certain circumstances. Pochettino has FECK NOTHING TO DO with these examples, he is not an untested manager, on the contrary is very well tested and he has shown on more than one occasion that he is a looser. And yes winning trophies is important when selecting a manager for a top team and budget had nothing to do with his inability to win vs Leicester for instance.Pochettino has done more than enough in the 'English premier league' on a small budget to be considered for the United job. The argument that one has to have won trophies to be considered for such a job is foolish, considering our last two managers had won 3 UCL titles between them. Which is the same amount we've won in out history, and more than your club has in it's existence and they failed miserably. i've given you examples of two coaches who had won zilch before being given the reigns at Barca and Madrid and they've been hugely successful.
Cunte is a decent manager but not someone I'd like due to style of play. You need to stop getting defensive over the dude and understand that not everyone has their head up his arse like some Juve fans like you do. He also behaved like a cnut in his last job and we don't want another one of those again.
You keep repeating yourself like a Parrott.For the last time I will try to explain my point that you keep ignoring repeating the same argument over and over again. Conte or Zidane or Guardiola have NOTHING to do with Pochettino. The point was not that it is a necessarily a bad idea to choose a manager with little experience in a top club, I made myself the example of Sacchi. A bet on a young and ambitious manager can be a bold move under certain circumstances. Pochettino has FECK NOTHING TO DO with these examples, he is not an untested manager, on the contrary is very well tested and he has shown on more than one occasion that he is a looser. And yes winning trophies is important when selecting a manager for a top team and budget had nothing to do with his inability to win vs Leicester for instance.
You think Erik ten Hag shouldn't be on the list but then suggest McClaren or Preud'homme as our next manager?My pick would be Steve McClaren.
Or Michel Preud'homme, who took over at FC Twente after McClaren had won the league and immediately left for Wolfsburg.
Preud'homme had them playing such lovely and adventurous football. He's also an unhinged passionate gung ho style loving madman at times, he would command respect because he's a native French speaker and was a top level player himself back in the day. I read he also appointed José Mourinho at Benfica once when he was working there as a DoF, this would make things go full circle, after Mourinho taking over from his mentor Van Gaal.
Now none of this above actually makes any sense, but weirdly enough it's still quite literally about 13758293 times more sensible than putting Erik ten Hag on the poll list as an option to become the next permanent Mancheser United manager.
In his first year with PSG and still has a contract, why will he think of leaving to us now ? PSG is also an easier job now.There have been enough mentions for Tuchel for him to be on the list
Agreed. If United go all in for Pochettino I’m sure he’ll come.I think Poch could do really well here & have a long time here too.
He’s got a good thing at Spurs but to join Manchester United & all the prestige & history that comes with managing one of the biggest clubs in the world with all the pressure it entails I’m sure he’d love to give it a go! Any Spurs fans thinking otherwise are a bit naive
Nagelsmann has been mentioned as well.There have been enough mentions for Tuchel for him to be on the list
Two bald kingsZidane as sporting director, Jardim as manager?
You clearly missed the last paragraph, I wasn't being seriousYou think Erik ten Hag shouldn't be on the list but then suggest McClaren or Preud'homme as our next manager?
I don't know as much as I'd like about Erik ten Hag, or as I'd hope the club and powers within it do, but he seems to have had a positive impact in management. He brought Go Ahead Eagles back into the Eredivisie after a 17 year absence, went to work under Pep at Bayern before joining Utrecht (who'd previously finished 11th), guiding them to 5th, followed by 4th, European qualification and a KNVB Cup final appearance. He has a 75% win ratio at Ajax and plays some really attractive football. There is also the prospect of him tempting a player or two to follow him if he were to come here.
It's pretty unrealistic that we'd go for him because of his lack of experience and trophies, but his style of football is something that we should be looking to replicate. I think he could improve working with better players and he could really become a top manager. I will be very interested to see how Ajax get on against Real Madrid.
so a big gamble then.Won the league with Monaco back in 2017. Apart from that, absolutely nothing of note, and less than Solskjaer actually has at this point.
Oh and Monaco fired him last season because they regressed massively.
Problem with Zidane is that he would want to mould the club in his image and we've been down that road three times before now and it doesn't work for us. We need someone to come in and uphold what we stand for ala Barcelona. If Pochettino is willing to do that and Solskjaer can't, then Poch is our man.so a big gamble then.
only 2 for me, Zidane or Pochettino
Do you think that is achievable when they don't have a transfer budget and are now in debt because of their new stadium? If they don't win anything of substance soon they'll probably even be under pressure to cash in on someone like Kane. Where will that leave his plans? IMO Poch would be mad to turn down this opportunity now because if it doesn't work out with Spurs he won't be considered the next time around. It's now or never really. And Spurs will never be as big as United, even if they were to win the EPL and CL this year it will still be a smaller job.I’d want Pocchetino but as much as it pains me to admit it, @GlastonSpur comments about him in relation to the hot seat here are on the money. I don’t think he’s a realistic candidate and to be honest I like that, he seems like he’s got a plan and has got behind the idea that he can grow Tottenham into a European powerhouse. He’ll undoubtedly win this poll, but In my opinion he’s the least likely of all those names to actually get the job.
I went for zidane because our group of players need someone who has a great track record (no-one touches zidane the last 3 years) and someone who is-probably still- better than them all at football. He plays a style we will love, and will draw bigger names than any of those other managers would.
Zidane's image is a bit similar to SAF.Problem with Zidane is that he would want to mould the club in his image and we've been down that road three times before now and it doesn't work for us. We need someone to come in and uphold what we stand for ala Barcelona. If Pochettino is willing to do that and Solskjaer can't, then Poch is our man.
But he's already going to a new club next season in RB Leipzig.Nagelsmann has been mentioned as well.
I doubt it. I just think the majority of us have grown disillusioned and weary over more pragmatic styles of football after the last 2 managers. That's why I wouldn't be all on board with either of the likes of Simeone,Conte or Allegri joiningMauricio Pochettino 57.5%
Massimiliano Allegri 1.9%
Shocks, i'm guessing the vast majority on the cafe just don't like Italians.
Poch isnt exactly attacking either. He plays high tempo but not Pep or Klopp in that aspect.I doubt it. I just think the majority of us have grown disillusioned and weary over more pragmatic styles of football after the last 2 managers. That's why I wouldn't be all on board with either of the likes of Simeone,Conte or Allegri joining
And Allegri schooled Poch in the CL last season but I'm guessing people don't want him because he doesn't play open expansive football but a more slow measured approach. It's not overly defensive but it's not attack, attack, attack either.Mauricio Pochettino 57.5%
Massimiliano Allegri 1.9%
Shocks, i'm guessing the vast majority on the cafe just don't like Italians.
I personally credit Juve's football structure which was compromised of Marotta, Paratici and Ribalta etc, more than Allegri for their teams success in the last 5 years. It'll be interesting to see how Marotta does at Inter now.And Allegri schooled Poch in the CL last season but I'm guessing people don't want him because he doesn't play open expansive football but a more slow measured approach. It's not overly defensive but it's not attack, attack, attack either.