Kostur
海尔的老板
Yeah Juve didn't even want to win this game imo.
Christ this place is a shithole.
Christ this place is a shithole.
Apart from thatYeah apart from when they lost 0-3 to RM in the quarter final.
First of all PSG aren't stronger than Juve.Liverpool beat PSG who are stronger than Juventus. Spurs are stronger than any team juve have faced this season apart from us.
In a one off game of course they could win.
That sums up how I feel. We were not brilliant but let's not pretend Juventus were either. They were nowhere near as impressive as I'd expect the best side in Europe to be, which I suppose they aren't yet. This notion that they battered is incorrect. They had a phase of domination due the swing the match took with the goal and us losing our concentration. For the rest of the game I felt we were comfortable.Tbh, the whole “we were absolutely shat on and then got lucky” narrative is nonsense, and I’m firmly in the anti-Jose camp*, with no reason to twist anything to be needlessly positive. We gave a pretty good account of ourselves in the first half, where the only real chance they had was that Khedeira effot, and where Sanchez was only a whisker away from connecting to a Matic through ball for us too...
Then in the second there was 25 minute period where they completely dominated after their goal, which is often par for big teams tbf - momentum and all that - and a lot of which came on the counter attack as we pushed for an equaliser - which is also precisely how Rashford got 1 on 1, in what was easily the best chance of the whole game, but that apparently doesn’t count as much, because, reasons? - so the idea it was a complete shithouse is unfair.
We still didn’t play particularly well, or deserve to win per say, but we also didn’t do “nothing” and the fawning over Juve, who weren’t particularly incredible and haven’t even won anything important yet is a bit bizarre. *especially by our manager! Who literally can’t help himself in trying to present as the underdog in every situation.
Wow, some people have such incredibly low footballing IQs it's a wonder they can find the right channel to even watch the football!there are a lot of stupid fans in this forum celebrating the win. No doubt a win is a win. but do these guys see how bad we played?
Lingard in attacking midfield again? Matic continued his poor poor form and not being substituted? What an awful 80 minutes for Man Utd until funny Allegri used 5 centre backs and gave up midfield control that caused their game.
No fantasy. Again another game ruined by stupidity of both managers. You dare to watch these nights after nights ?
Agreed. It is amazing how different the team looks with confidence and belief. We dare to believe.Don't jinx us man.
But I know where you are coming from. The mentality of the team is incredible. Such a shame that they did not fight harder in the OT-leg.
At the time, although we could come back against the likes of Newcastle, I think the players lacked belief that they could do Juve in the same way. After we played CFC and did it to them as well, I think the players (and manager) slowly grew their belief that they can do amazing comebacks, even against the top teams.
I'd like to see how our players respond if we are 1-0 down at HT, at the Emptihad. Do they have the ability to dismantle MCFC in the 2nd half? Do we dare to believe?
Well, because it's the part that stood out. Why else would i do it. The wording threw me off, that's all. It was you saying that the interviews made it sound like they are a superior side, as opposed to YOU thinking they were a superior side. I'm not saying you don't think that, just the wording of it that's all. No big deal.But why the hell would you take one sentence (in fact, worse still, part of a sentence) and respond to it? Like, it’s quite obviously apparent they are superior to us. But that’s not what the post was about. So no real value in affirming it.
Anyway, yes, I was indeed lamenting that our players now feel like they’ve taken down a giant they aren’t in the same class with, and they are right. The fact they talk like that and the fact they are not wrong is what’s sad. Sad that it’s got to this point.
Probably the game at Old Trafford.Which game were you watching?
hahahahahaYeah Juve didn't even want to win this game imo.
Christ this place is a shithole.
Not the point though. You are right, it wasn't a final or anything but football is about these sudden bursts of excitement when the stars seem to align for your team, regardless of the fixture. We weren't watching it as an intellectual exercise.
If we had Scholes we would have controlled the game.Said it in the match day thread but if Buffon was still there they don't concede either of those goals.
Parked the bus? FFS. He might want to try forming his own opinions instead of parroting stock phrases. We played like an Italian team of old. Our defence played as a unit and, although we rode our luck and let Juve have the ball, they were taking quite a few long-range efforts. That told me that our defence was playing well and we always had an outlet in Martial, Sanchez, and Young.I was listening to 'Grumpy Pundits' on US Sat radio this AM. Man the one guy hates Jose and United. No credit for anything and saying United parked the bus. We were defensive of course, being at Juve and all, but man all he could do was dig at Jose. The other guy, a City fan at least said: 'you have to give credit where it was due yesterday'.
Yeah, so did I, just had this feeling.I predicted 2-1 in the prediction game
Ok, but these games they struggled in, did they lose any of them? They aren't struggling like Bayern Munich, or Real Madrid. Nobody is saying that we are better than them, but I don't remember your optimistic dismissal of Juventus prior to the game, or when we were drawn together. You didn't ruffle feathers, but you're one of several retrospexperts I've come across since the game that are downplaying many people's favourite for the competition right after we played really well, and still needed a bit of luck to beat them.Seemed to have ruffled a few feathers.
Listen juve are a good team but imo fans and media overrated them too much.
I watched them season many games and they struggled a few games even against some weak teams.
All of the teams I mentioned would take them all the way at the very least.
Yeah. IIRC all the talk at HT was of how much more encouraging and positive we’d been compared to the reverse. Even during their dominant period 2nd half they created maybe, what, 2 more proper chances than us? I’m watching the BT YouTube highlights just now and it doesn’t seem one sided at all (anymore than any big clash home tie at any rate) and Martial got behind and put one straight across the face just before we scored that hasn’t even made it into their 'reel'.That sums up how I feel. We were not brilliant but let's not pretend Juventus were either. They were nowhere near as impressive as I'd expect the best side in Europe to be, which I suppose they aren't yet. This notion that they battered is incorrect. They had a phase of domination due the swing the match took with the goal and us losing our concentration. For the rest of the game I felt we were comfortable.
Either way, that was a smashing result and I felt we played fairly well for good chunks of the game
Alright.Seemed to have ruffled a few feathers.
Listen juve are a good team but imo fans and media overrated them too much.
I watched them season many games and they struggled a few games even against some weak teams.
All of the teams I mentioned would take them all the way at the very least.
Would have probably been a little easier if Ronaldo was still playing for us instead of Juve, too.If we had Scholes we would have controlled the game.
Day 2 of his downplaying Juventus team.Abdo99 with a bunch of horrendous posts.
City Lover? More like City fan.Day 2 of his downplaying Juventus team.
City Lover? More like City fan.
Oh trust me, if City had beaten Juventus a bunch of so called United fans would have wanked themselves to sleep about it.
Wonder what he would say if City had beaten Juventus.
Oh I did, still am today. Little bit more than a lot.Enjoy your work today
I walked into office like I own it, they rolled their eyes knowing that fun is over. They said: " you were lucky", I put my hand to my ear and pulled Jose: "whaaaat,can't hear you" In front of my Liverpool fan college I shouted "Zvezda, Zvezda" (means Star from Red Star) million times, wonder why he is not talking to me today. Hmmm. I also wonder why some of them are avoiding me today, hmmm.Let us know what happened pal?
The first hour was great and the gap between defenders and midfield wasn't that large as you might think, they did a terrific job. The problem is that too many players couldn't maintain the efforts (the organisation)on the pitch. We played against a very strong team away.Believe me or not. There’s nothing we should be happy about except the win and our effort to fight back.
Our clueless manager doesn’t know how to rotate the squad, create no attacking style, large gap again between defenders and midfielders, Lingard still not told to go right flank, Matic tired and less coverage on the pitch etc. Don’t you guys see all these problems in this match?
We won because of Mata brink of brilliance, luck and players’ effort.
To be honest, we should have lost by 3 to 4 goals if Juventus took one or two more chances in the first half.
Mark my words. In the coming derby, pace and midfield efficiency is vital. If Fred and Rashford are not in the starting eleven, if we should till use Lingard as attacking midfielder, we will be screwed in the first half again, then we’ll wait for subs to try to overturn things. This conceding first cycle keeps going.
Ovidiu Hategan