Leftback99
Might have a bedwetting fetish.
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Let's face it we got exactly what most of us expected. I can't believe that the board freely just write off another game under this manager.
Agree. Been in the LVG out camp for a while but today most of the players were a disgrace. Some were just cowards and hiding from the ball and showed absolutely no fight. It was just depressing sad to watch. A few of them need to go in January or the summer. Not United quality and if we need to pay through the nose to get that type in the Glazers and should realise we will need to do just that to keep the brand commercially viable for them (even cold blooded bottom line business suits like them would realise the brand depends on the quality of the footballing staff).It's depressing how we've ended up with such a pathetic group of players.
Me being very optimistic was hoping for a 0-0 draw. I knew there was going to be a defeat, as depressing as that sounds. Many others did too.For me: no.
This was such an easy prediction, I stated before the match started that I'd take a 1-0 loss, as I wanted to protect our GD (should this be important at the end of the season).
I know it sucks to think that way, but we need to be realistic with what we can achieve with our current setup.
if the reports are true that Van Gall rips into them after each mistake, wrong pass, lost ball then it's no brainier that they are afraid.Agree. Been in the LVG out camp for a while but today most of the players were a disgrace. Some were just cowards and hiding from the ball and showed absolutely no fight. It was just depressing sad to watch. A few of them need to go in January or the summer. Not United quality and if we need to pay through the nose to get that type in the Glazers and should realise we will need to do just that to keep the brand commercially viable for them (even cold blooded bottom line business suits like them would realise the brand depends on the quality of the footballing staff).
This.Put the man out of his misery. That interview was sad.
Reminded me of the 1-5 reversal at Palace all those years ago when years of chronic mismanagement by the board came to a head. Then it took relegation and radical surgery to get the team back in contention and even then the board conspired to screw things up.I take your point M but today's performance was rooted in Moyes arrival. Agree, the board and Fergie have their part in the longer picture of 5 years prior. However, Moyes' damage was grievous; we never really salvaged anything before LVG came along, and have finally buried any trace of our former stubborn spirit. Today was not like any squad I have seen for a long time, except for Ander they didn't look like United players.
I agree but FFS, I hope you would agree that if you are a Manchester United player, you at least show more fight, press, scrap, to get the result. It's not the manager that plays. Today's effort, if you saw it, was absolutely appalling. Some of those players need to look at themselves and understand they are playing for their futures. Because honestly, anyone who comes in, will definitely get rid of some of these players who played today.if the reports are true that Van Gall rips into them after each mistake, wrong pass, lost ball then it's no brainier that they are afraid.
Been the same kind of shit under Moyes, the writing's on the wall for the new manager. I hope LVG gets the axe as soon as possible but yea, there's a process indeed going on and it's a process of weeding out the cnuts we still have in the squad because sooner or later the situation will repeat when things aren't going their way.Agree. Been in the LVG out camp for a while but today most of the players were a disgrace. Some were just cowards and hiding from the ball and showed absolutely no fight. It was just depressing sad to watch. A few of them need to go in January or the summer. Not United quality and if we need to pay through the nose to get that type in the Glazers and should realise we will need to do just that to keep the brand commercially viable for them (even cold blooded bottom line business suits like them would realise the brand depends on the quality of the footballing staff).
He is out of ideas - his philosophy isn't working.Van Gaal seems defeated
Absolutely agree. Get rid of Rooney, Giggs, Carrick - they've set the wrong tone for the dressing room. Need a new slate for the next manager. Players are a disgrace. Roy Keane must have been fuming. Not one bit of effort - utterly despicable behaviour. Bastards shouldn't get another pay cheque until they win another game.I agree but FFS, I hope you would agree that if you are a Manchester United player, you at least show more fight, press, scrap, to get the result. It's not the manager that plays. Today's effort, if you saw it, was absolutely appalling. Some of those players need to look at themselves and understand they are playing for their futures. Because honestly, anyone who comes in, will definitely get rid of some of these players who played today.
funny. I had thought about that Palace defeat over the weeks. It is not losing the match. The heart has completely gone. He is gone but the poison that has been here since Moyes will take some work to get rid off.Reminded me of the 1-5 reversal at Palace all those years ago when years of chronic mismanagement by the board came to a head. Then it took relegation and radical surgery to get the team back in contention and even then the board conspired to screw things up.
The side that was out there today did not look like a Manchester United team from any era. They looked like a disjointed gaggle of players who did not play for each other. Some hid in plain sight while others just went through the motions. They let the supporters down and if they had any decency, they'd club together and give them a refund.
I am just so depressed that we are slowly but surely repeating the horror cycle which Liverpool is only now beginning to get out from under. The tragic point is that we have all the financial resources to prevent this but we are making one fatal mistake after another by the suits.Been the same kind of shit under Moyes, the writing's on the wall for the new manager. I hope LVG gets the axe as soon as possible but yea, there's a process indeed going on and it's a process of weeding out the cnuts we still have in the squad because sooner or later the situation will repeat when things aren't going their way.
This. And if someone at the club doesn't realise this needs attending to immediately, then we're in big trouble.funny. I had thought about that Palace defeat over the weeks. It is not losing the match. The heart has completely gone. He is gone but the poison that has been here since Moyes will take some work to get rid off.
So much for Gill's supposed master plan for replacing Fergie. It's amazing that a club of United's stature could get it so horribly wrong.funny. I had thought about that Palace defeat over the weeks. It is not losing the match. The heart has completely gone. He is gone but the poison that has been here since Moyes will take some work to get rid off.
the difference is we have the money and a top manager available to halt the slide.I am just so depressed that we are slowly but surely repeating the horror cycle which Liverpool is only now beginning to get out from under. The tragic point is that we have all the financial resources to prevent this but we are making one fatal mistake after another by the suits.
It's a bit sad that after Moyes' departure it turns out we're in the same freefall for the last 1.5 year and adding Moyes tenure it's 2.5 years now. If CP an Watford win, we're back to 7th if I'm not mistaken, sums it up perfectly well.I am just so depressed that we are slowly but surely repeating the horror cycle which Liverpool is only now beginning to get out from under. The tragic point is that we have all the financial resources to prevent this but we are making one fatal mistake after another by the suits.
Gill, Fergie, Charlton all guilty in my books.So much for Gill's supposed master plan for replacing Fergie. It's amazing that a club of United's stature could get it so horribly wrong.
I said this many times in the last 12 months....a process of weeding out the cnuts we still have in the squad because sooner or later the situation will repeat when things aren't going their way.
It will be another conversation for another day but I think many people, including Ed and the board, are asking what on earth is wrong. We right deserved to be in 7th. Cause we playing like a mid-table team (and on the last few game, relegation team).It's a bit sad that after Moyes' departure it turns out we're in the same freefall for the last 1.5 year and adding Moyes tenure it's 2.5 years now. If CP an Watford win, we're back to 7th if I'm not mistaken, sums it up perfectly well.
I hope the board wakes the eff up.the difference is we have the money and a top manager available to halt the slide.
Giggs should be added on this list.LVG
Mata
Fellaini
Memphis
Carrick
Blind
Jones
Don't belong at this club.
I imagine that Fergie and Charlton will be agitating for Giggs. Whether the Glazers agree or not is anyone's guess but it wouldn't surprise me if the club took a pass on Mourinho and appointed Giggs. Then it'll be more of the old pals act.Gill, Fergie, Charlton all guilty in my books.
EDIT: I hope this also means Giggs as the NEXT manager is not a realistic option.
There was no master plan.So much for Gill's supposed master plan for replacing Fergie. It's amazing that a club of United's stature could get it so horribly wrong.
we are truly fecked then.I imagine that Fergie and Charlton will be agitating for Giggs. Whether the Glazers agree or not is anyone's guess but it wouldn't surprise me if the club took a pass on Mourinho and appointed Giggs. Then it'll be more of the old pals act.
Its not like Fellaini, Rooney and the rest of the team was any better... Rooney was the whole 2nd half whining to the ref.Mata, Memphis and Blind can feck off non of them are worthy to wear the shirt after what they did today absolutely spineless performance from the three of them.
In fairness, Rooney does not have the skills to play his team out of trouble.Its not like Fellaini, Rooney and the rest of the team was any better... Rooney was the whole 2nd half whining to the ref.
That's how I see it too. I don't believe any of the stuff that Fergie has since written about Moyes' appointment. Van Gaal's appointment made sense at the time but it was a reactionary thing to do. Look at Bayern. That's how a club run by people who know the game act when they appoint mangers. We are run by a former investment banker who acts for absentee owners. Where's the football nous?There was no master plan.
There is absolutely no way that anybody would've "planned" Moyes' appointment. Fergie liked him. He was a mate. He was Scottish, so he got the job.
Jose (the most winning manager of the last 10 years) was available at the time and was overlooked, in favour of Moyes.
Then we got desperate after Moyes left and LVG was the only person available. Fair enough. I had no complaints about this.
Now LVG is failing and Jose is available, we are dithering attempting to lure unobtainable targets (Guardiola). If Jose goes to another team and we end up with another manager (Scottish or Welsh) who has never won a trophy, the Glazers should look to remove some of the advisers on the board.
Me either. Lots of people trying to save face since Moyes got the sack and don't want to take any responsibility for it.That's how I see it too. I don't believe any of the stuff that Fergie has since written about Moyes' appointment.
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