Premier League Gameweek 2

[Champ]

What exactly is Havertzs strengths?
I have only seen him a handful of times but certainly the game and a half for Chelsea so far he has been anonymous.
He looks light weight, has a poor touch, looks low in confidence.

 

[Cloud7]

I hope Chelsea lose. Feck them and their successful transfer window.

 

[charlenefan]

it's very rare for the caf to unanimously agree on a red card, so it must've bad

Especially when it's in Liverpool's favour

 

[The Cat]

Depends on whether you think that Mané would've 'obviously' got the ball under control and smashed it in from 30 yards in the time-frame between him being tackled and Kepa clearing the ball.

No that is not correct. He only had to get to the ball first.

 

[thepolice123]

This game is perfectly set-up for Thiago to shine now. What a dumb foul ffs.

 

[Fooza]

I personally don't think that's a red. Mane doesn't even have possession of the ball, nor was he definitely favourite to get it... But he can't really complain

Mane was most certainly favourite to get that, look at the angle.

 

[Chief123]

Havertz will get dragged off. He’s offered nothing with 11 men. Will offer even less with 10 (If that’s possible).

 

[Denis79]

Red card every day of the week except today, because it went in Liverpools favour. I'm still analyzing the red card, I'm sure I'll find something to complain about.

 

[Sandikan]

Don't think it was arrogant at all. It works in rugby that way; a tv on the side is not needed.

It works in rugby because their VAR refs are not afraid to disagree with the onfield referee. That was the main issue last season in the Premier League: the VAR refs were too reluctant to disagree with the referee's decision.

We'd just seen VAR work very well in an international tournament, but the premier league thought they knew better.
The fact they've changed it shows they know they'd dropped a Christensen.

 

[Chief123]

I hope Chelsea lose. Feck them and their successful transfer window.

It’s not looking so successful so far. Wouldn’t be surprised if they spent another £200m before Oct 5th.

 

[kouroux]

Thats only because Liverpool play such a high line. Like their last game, Chelsea are resorting to sitting back and hoofing it up for a counter. Completely different than last season where they tried to outplay their opponents with fluid football.

Chelsea's football will be better once everyone is fit and ready. Having 2 new players in attack and a shit Mount doesn't help

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Ah Liverpool a man up at HT. Why am I not surprised

 

[Peyroteo]

Chelsea will need to bring on Abraham or Giroud early in the second half to have someone that can hold the ball up with Werner always looking to run in behind. They're going to get run over if they just bring on a CB for Mount or Havertz.

 

[Mb194dc]

Pretty poor first half all round. Only positive is no clear chances conceded.

Tactically look totally different team to last year.

Clear red card, no idea what Christensen thinking there. Only hope is teams getting levelled up with Liverpool mistake somewhere.

 

[GameOn]

Werner really is such an overhyped player.

Outside of being really fast, he's average or below average in all other aspects (first touch, technique, finishing etc.).

As for the "but he scored 28 Bundesliga goals last season" crowd: Yes, but it was an outlier in his career and even guys like Stefan Kießing etc. had seasons where they scored 25+ goals there.

There is a reason Bayern and Liverpool didn't seriously go after him and why he's been poor in his national team so far. Pure system player.

 

[LVGSdive]

Nah, just a really dumb foul as the last man. Nothing malicious, just stupid and clumsy.

Looking at it from the reverse view Christensen couldn't really do much. He was sprinting then Mane moves to the left in front of where Christiensen was running. There wasn't much he could do to avoid running into Mane at that point. I'm not so sure it's a red card anymore because Mane changes his running angle as opposed to Christensen just pulling him down as it looks like from the side camera shot.

 

[ZolaWasMagic]

It’s not looking so successful so far. Wouldn’t be surprised if they spent another £200m before Oct 5th.

well, it is only the 2nd game of the season afterall, and only 2 of the signings are playing

 

[Cloud7]

It’s not looking so successful so far. Wouldn’t be surprised if they spent another £200m before Oct 5th.

Then I’ll hope they lose then as well!

 

[MDFC Manager]

Werner really is such an overhyped player.

Outside of being really fast, he's average or below average in all other aspects (first touch, technique, finishing etc.).

As for the "but he scored 28 Bundesliga goals last season" crowd: Yes, but it was an outlier in his career and even guys like Stefan Kießing etc. had seasons were they scored 25+ goals there.

There is a reason Bayern and Liverpool didn't seriously go after him and why he's been poor in his national team so far. Pure system player.

Not seen a whole lot of him, but his first touch, under no pressure, has been quite horrifying.

 

[Feed Me]

Lampard and Chelsea have completely shit the bed here.

 

[duffer]

Lampard and Chelsea have completely shot the bed here.

You're full of shot as usual!

 

[Chief123]

Werner really is such an overhyped player.

Outside of being really fast, he's average or below average in all other aspects (first touch, technique, finishing etc.).

As for the "but he scored 28 Bundesliga goals last season" crowd: Yes, but it was an outlier in his career and even guys like Stefan Kießing etc. had seasons were they scored 25+ goals there.

There is a reason Bayern and Liverpool didn't seriously go after him and why he's been poor in his national team so far. Pure system player.

I will not be surprised if Chelsea are in the hunt for a striker next summer. Werner is looking very one dimensional.

 

[Jev]

Is Rudiger injured? Why is this this terrible defender Christensen playing?

Christensen is a good, calm defender, despite that red card. Better than Zouma for me.

 

[Withnail]

it's very rare for the caf to unanimously agree on a red card, so it must've bad

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[Chief123]

well, it is only the 2nd game of the season afterall, and only 2 of the signings are playing

The worry is those 2 signings have been virtually non existent or poor.

 

[Sandikan]

I hope Chelsea lose. Feck them and their successful transfer window.

How successful has it been so far?
Havertz and Werner look super average, and the others haven't got near the pitch yet.

 

[GameOn]

Not seen a whole lot of him, but his first touch, under no pressure, has been quite horrifying.

It's actually baffling how some fans rate him so high.

He's probably the most one-dimensional player I've ever seen on that level. Take away his speed and he'll do absolutely nothing all game long.

 

[charlenefan]

Oh god Thiago is coming on, this is going to be sickening to watch

 

[Verminator]

Has Klopp got a stunt double?

 

[Sandikan]

Christensen is a good, calm defender, despite that red card. Better than Zouma for me.

He's their Lindelof.

 

[Feed Me]

You're full of shot as usual!

You have!

Unnecessarily conservative and now the game has gone with the red card.

 

[Sandikan]

Has Klopp got a stunt double?

Saw that guy. Looks just as annoying.

 

[DavidDeSchmikes]

Liverpool got Thiago for £20m?!!

 

[Chief123]

It's actually baffling how some fans rate him so high.

He's probably the most one-dimensional player I've ever seen on that level. Take away his speed and he'll do absolutely nothing all game long.

What would be concerning is his terrible effort and putting a simple cross into the net (even though it was offside).

 

[kouroux]

Has Klopp got a stunt double?

 

[Sandikan]

You're full of shot as usual!

I genuinely think we're as annoyed as any Chelsea fan at how you've thrown this game!

Thought you might be one of the few teams who could just stop them winning one game!

 

[Fooza]

The hell was thiago doing their with Klopps double, gladiator drills?

 

[Chief123]

Liverpool got Thiago for £20m?!!

Apparently they didn’t even pay anything (or not much) up front.

 

[Peyroteo]

Werner really is such an overhyped player.

Outside of being really fast, he's average or below average in all other aspects (first touch, technique, finishing etc.).

As for the "but he scored 28 Bundesliga goals last season" crowd: Yes, but it was an outlier in his career and even guys like Stefan Kießing etc. had seasons were they scored 25+ goals there.

There is a reason Bayern and Liverpool didn't seriously go after him and why he's been poor in his national team so far. Pure system player.

He's Immobile 2.0, extremely dangerous in certain systems, unbelievable at exploiting opponents' high defensive line, often fairly clinical and presses well. But there isn't much else to either of their games and they tend to struggle in more closed games.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Havertz hooked, that was quick.

Thiago time.