What I got from your post is that all you cared about was the position of the arm being inline with the body. My point is that if the intent is to gain an advantage, ie knock the ball into the air or out of play, then its deliberate and a penalty. If it hit his body the ball could've fallen to the ground where Gibbs could take a shot or play it across the goal.
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Never ever a pen.
How is Chambers looking to gain an advantage there?
When you go back 6months and see how many late winners you've had, often after playing poorly, you have to suck the reverse up occasionally.
And stay a little further away from us, as we go into Everton, Burnley and Tottenham away over the next 4!
How did Fosu Mensah play today?
Was very good, had Sane frustrated all game..
Great, thanks for the quick reply.
There's no consensus to be fair! Happy new year mate!
Happy new year.
Just found out the final score 
Arsenal
Arsenal
Got Man of the match award, a brick wall couple of excellent 1:1 defending vs Sane
Our penalty was claim yesterday was brushed off by both tv channels and social media. This is being talked about everywhere, why?
Well at least the City and Arsenal results help to put a little perspective on our recent results for those who have thrown in the towel. Sometimes a game just does not go your way.
And at least the pundits and media will now STFU about City's winning run. Refereeing has been poor so far this season and very inconsistent.
And at least the pundits and media will now STFU about City's winning run. Refereeing has been poor so far this season and very inconsistent.
Another shocking performance from Mike Dean. Should be struck of the Premiership list. Never a penalty, but doesn't surprise me as so many ridiculous decisions are made by refs regarding handball. Go back to the old days when penalties from hand ball were only given for offences when someone has deliberately stopped someone scoring with his arm, not if a ball is smashed into them and hit an arm or hand. I presume the people on here who think this was a good decision have never played football, because if they had they would know that there was no way Chambers could have avoided the ball hitting his arm. He was in a natural position, 1-2 yards away, & his brain wouldn't be able to make a decision regarding his body in that time. So many idiotic comments. The rule is supposed to be deliberate handball, but how many are deliberate is very small.
Because one was the right decision, and the other one was wrong. A correct decision is hardly a talking point.
Was listening to Talksport earlier. The journalist Darren Lewis said he was amazed it wasn't a penalty. Also amazed that BT ref said it wasn't one.
Exactly, it was stonewall. BT ref made no sense since his hands were quite at unnatural position.
Arsenal fans are very angry at Dean.
Ditto for me but it's fine if you use a VPN (there are some free ones) and select a UK server.
You're talking a load of utter bollocks. Referees are accountable and can lose fees by being dropped from the roster for a week or two or even dropped down to a lower division for a spell. Secondly they don't make things up .. they are human beings and are forced to make decisions with their only replay a memory version running through their brains, even then they don't always have a clear view or the benefit of multiple angles ... they certainly don't have the benefit of TV replays shown ad infinitum like you do. The game is simply too fast nowadays, and players are all fecking cheats anyway, so it's more than time for the authorities to introduce video replays - it works well most of the time in other sports no matter it's shortcomings.
Whilst I agree with your comments on Chambers the definition of deliberate could also be interpreted as being in a position in which the player can reasonably expect the ball to hit it and for his team to gain an advantage from that .. as in away from the body or over his head. Not necessarily just a distinct movement towards the ball, which almost never happens actually.
I am often extremely angry at them, but yeah, what you said is what I believe as well. It's a tough job, I hope they do try to do their best.
Never a penalty
Nothing the defender could do there but Arsenal always get the rub of the green so happy to see them get one go against them
Nothing the defender could do there but Arsenal always get the rub of the green so happy to see them get one go against them
Appalling decision. He has to have his arms out because he's running and he has zero chance to get out of the way at that distance. A human beings reaction time is just not fast enough.
In typical Gibbs fashion he fcuked up the cross too. He was trying to hook it over his head, so even if he did think to anticipate in that split second where the ball might go there was nothing else he could have done. About as far from deliberate as you can get.
No surprise it's that weasel-faced attention seeker who gives it.
In typical Gibbs fashion he fcuked up the cross too. He was trying to hook it over his head, so even if he did think to anticipate in that split second where the ball might go there was nothing else he could have done. About as far from deliberate as you can get.
No surprise it's that weasel-faced attention seeker who gives it.
Couple of things. Chambers puts his arms suddenly in the air, just before the incident. Was a bit of a strange one. The intended cross was miskicked, and went downwards onto his now lowered arms. Harsh, to be fair, but not an utterly one-in-a-million obvious injustice. Just harsh, imo.
I think I agree, very harsh but you can see why it was given as Dien will have seen the arm move towards the ball, still not sure that VAR will stop these decisions
Anyone find Jesus crying a bit over the top? Out for a month?
He always looks like he is on the verge of crying.
I did not find it over the top. I try to not be critical of players showing emotion.
On a different note, does anybody know why Spurs will only be playing game 21 a day after many teams, including Liverpool and Utd have already played game 22?
When did "gameweeks" become a thing?
I just base it off the Fantasy Premier League site. Each round of matches is a game week.
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just watched the West Brom pen and for me it was spot on , I would have been shouting for it.
First time I've seen the clip, and I wouldn't call that a harsh pen at all. No idea what he thought he was doing swinging his arms around like that, it was asking for trouble in his own box.
A lot of arm waving yea, that caught the ref's eye, and when you look from a certain angle, easy to see why it was blown up.
For all the controversy, it’s not the worst decision of the season. Probably not the worst of the weekend either.
I mean, at least it hit him!
I mean, at least it hit him!
No Salah or Coutinho in the squad for Pool. Come on Burnley.
It's debatable, but I think it's a penalty, because of how he moved his arms after it hit him, like he was trying to influence the ball's trajectory.
If I was Wenger, I'd be livid that Chambers didn't have any sense to put his arms to his sides while defending in his own penalty box. It's the sensible thing to do.