Rightly so. Few if any Premier league players was better at crossing the ball and free kicks than him. His work rate and will to win was something else had to attend matches to fully appreciate it.
Premier League Hall of Fame
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Exactly.
So sick of this PL Hall of Fame bs already with the debate about who should be in before who etc.
Theres no rhyme or reason to the order of picks, its so stupid. The perfect example of Gerrard before anyone of Uniteds actual title winning candidates is based on what exactly?
Something that gets glossed over/forgotten about over time sadly. His will to win was tremendous.
We shouldn't be caring about order of induction into the HOF.
In the end, it's not like Wikipedia will have on Steven Gerrard's page, "5th to be inducted into HOF". Higher chance it'll write "0 EPL trophies"
In the end, it's not like Wikipedia will have on Steven Gerrard's page, "5th to be inducted into HOF". Higher chance it'll write "0 EPL trophies"
Replying to this again cause I just did some research. Here’s every instance of a midfielder* scoring 12 or more non-penalty PL goals in a season during Frank Lampard’s career:
Scholes 02/03 - 14 (33)
Toure 13/14 - 14 (35)
Fabregas 09/10 - 12 (27)
Gerrard 08/09 - 12 (31)
Silva 14/15 - 12 (32)
Juninho 96/97 - 12 (35)
Lampard 05/06 - 12 (35)
Mata 12/13 - 12 (35)
Lampard 09/10 - 12 (36)
Cazorla 12/13 - 12 (38)
So, Scholes got one season across those twenty years playing in a three man midfield and not only did he score more than Lampard ever managed in a season, he scored more from midfield than anyone else ever did. Frank Lampard was a fine player, but Scholes could do his job better than him.
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I checked on the premier league website where you can filter players by position and then sacked off all the wingers.
Are they done with the midfielders already? Or is everyone gonna come in eventually?
https://www.premierleague.com/news/2582028
2021 Inductees
David Beckham
Dennis Bergkamp
Eric Cantona
Steven Gerrard
Thierry Henry
Roy Keane
Frank Lampard
Alan Shearer
2022 Inductees
Sergio Aguero
Didier Drogba
Vincent Kompany
Wayne Rooney
Peter Schmeichel
Paul Scholes
Patrick Vieira
Ian Wright
2021 Inductees
David Beckham
Dennis Bergkamp
Eric Cantona
Steven Gerrard
Thierry Henry
Roy Keane
Frank Lampard
Alan Shearer
2022 Inductees
Sergio Aguero
Didier Drogba
Vincent Kompany
Wayne Rooney
Peter Schmeichel
Paul Scholes
Patrick Vieira
Ian Wright
The greatest of them all is missing
It's silly that Giggs is not included
Also, predictable list. When is Delap getting in
Also, predictable list. When is Delap getting in
I don't think Giggs is ever getting in for non football reasons.
Wait they didn't include gigs?
I'm aware that he did shitty things but come on he is the "premier league " player.
I'm aware that he did shitty things but come on he is the "premier league " player.
How is Ian Wright in this ahead of guys like Cole, Fowler and Owen? Only 5-6 decent seasons in the PL, most of them when Arsenal were a mediocre team, won the league in his last season at Arsenal when in decline and Anelka moving ahead of him. 3 more Pl goals than Heskey.
The Giggs thing is ridiculous, if he is found innocent in his trial are they going to keep him out of this because he fecked his brother's wife but are fine with all the other adulterers?
The Giggs thing is ridiculous, if he is found innocent in his trial are they going to keep him out of this because he fecked his brother's wife but are fine with all the other adulterers?
Jimmy Savile was practically the face of the BBC for fifty years. Would you put him in a BBC hall of fame?
That is completely different. Saville was a paedophile and a rapist. Not exactly a very good comparison or example to make.
Why are they doing this so quickly? 16 names in already after only two years?
It takes the prestige away from it.
We will be inducting Paul Robinson and Craig Gardner by 2030
It takes the prestige away from it.
We will be inducting Paul Robinson and Craig Gardner by 2030
Whats your detention of hall of fame, if its the greatest players of the premier league than he should be there.
If you apply the same principle to BBC than yeah he should be there (I don't know much about him but a cursory internet search tells me he was a shitbag and as others have pointed out not the best example to use , gigs allegations are in no way that severe )
Its the nature of reality , being a shitbag or criminal doesn't suddenly make your achievements evaporate.
There is 200+ players in the NBA one( with a longer history of course), i guess they're fast tracking the first 50 or so and it will slow down next year.
Does Ian Wright really deserve a place in the Hall of Fame?
No he doesn't. Beginning of the end of this hall.
One defender??
A little bit lopsided I think but I suppose the goalscorers get the headlines.
Andy Cole deserves a place.
Not ahead of Andy Cole that's for sure.
Giggs with his 13 PL titles nowhere to be seen whereas Gerrard with his zero titles is in there?
Don’t agree with Kompany being the first CB to get in ahead of Terry and Rio
They desperately wanted another City player there as Kompany that early makes no sense.
The desperate attempt to legitimise City as a big club.
You do realise it's fan voted right?
Creating accounts on social media too, massive desperation!
Kompany definitely deserves to be there but before Terry, vidic , rio and others? Don't think so.
I think the big factor is Kompany was part of building City from little guys to big guys. Terry to an extent. The other two were phenomenal but United were already big dogs when they joined. If you had to pick the 3 players who made City what they are today Kompany would be an easy choice as would Terry at Chelsea. United have been top dogs in the PL for so long that Rio and Vidic more or less kept them at the top but didn't elevate them there.
I agree about the points you make but even then Terry should probably get the nod ahead of Vincent.
It doesn't matter much in the long run to be honest as all 4 are quality players deserving of being there.
Thats fair, I'd have no issue with Rio or Vidic either, was just speculating on why I thought it was Kompany.
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Probably too many United players there so I think it won't be another one but Teddy Sheringham and Andy Cole could go in as they have extensive careers outside of United
John Terry perhaps
Sol Campbell maybe
Peter Cech?
Jamie Vardy?
David Seaman?
Find it weird that they're acting like Giggs never existed. Yes he's a prick but they've got Cantona who assaulted a fan, Gerrard also had an assault claim on him.
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Ryan Giggs has a history of very problematic behavior. Cantona attacked a fan after being more than mildly provoked: "He said that the fan chanted: "F*** off back to France you French bastard" whilst also calling his mother a "French whore".". We can of course say that "words dont defend violence" like everyone are about to, but thats still a different situation from Giggs sordid history.
I get that. Just wondering what the bar is? And whether they're just judging it on sporting merit which clearly they aren't. There's no point pretending he doesn't exist and that he's not the most decorated player in the history of the PL, even if he is a massive twat. Just a big elephant in the room really.
Wow, that's a shit graphic. The PL can't afford to spend a few quid on design?
I would guess that recent problems take priority when deciding who to omit. I guess Im not allowed to mention what Giggs is currently on trial for under UK law(?), but its different than the examples you mentioned previously.