Makes selling Digne look strange.
I think international football is his next go to.
I think international football is his next go to.
Rafa Benitez | Sacked (Fachts)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Surprised it took this long.
Was never going to end any other way.
Was never going to end any other way.
If he is good enough, he can do what Rodger did with Leceister or Pochettino with spurs and push Everton into the champions league. It will be a real test of his managerial capabilities. Doing that will get him a top job moreso than what he does in Portugal unless he went to the semi final or finals in the champions league
Everton are never getting ahead of City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal/Spurs/us unless things change majorly at board level there. They have a lot of money of course but not more than e.g. Newcastle, City or Chelsea, probably not even more than Villa.
They have been underperforming for years, they've the bones of a very good squad and have done several times over the last 10-15 but have just never kicked on or clicked properly.
I do hope they turn it around, if for no other reason that to have them beat Pool to 4th in the near future, but seriously they are too good to be this bad.
I do hope they turn it around, if for no other reason that to have them beat Pool to 4th in the near future, but seriously they are too good to be this bad.
The owner is a moron.
Maybe they should have held on selling Digne for a few days. Amazed he lasted so long. Their worst ever managerial appointment.
Will be interesting to see who they go for next. They have had some big names in that job but same ol (albeit under Ancelotti for a while they looked good)
Wonder if Moyes would be tempted to return and also how much they’d have to pay to get him
Wonder if Moyes would be tempted to return and also how much they’d have to pay to get him
because the club is in the most rotten place it’s ever been.
See I've been thinking this mate, in my lifetime I genuinely can't recall it ever being so bad it Everton. Surely that must be him gone.
I remember Everton surviving the drop by the skin of their teeth in the 90’s. I don’t think you have hit Rick bottom yet. You are basically in same situation you have been in many recent seasons. Underachieving but safely mid table in the end
Nice to know there's a worse run club than us at least.
Top manager at his prime, but like Mourinho he is washed up, and his best day were in the 2000s, with Valencia, Liverpool and Inter.
I reckon he would do well at international level now.
I reckon he would do well at international level now.
Benitez would’ve been better off at Newcastle, and Eddie Howe would be better suited to Everton…
Ironic.
Ironic.
The club of the size and stature (upper mid-table) of Everton shouldn't follow in the footsteps of top European clubs, a model of managerial merry-go-round every couple of years doesn't suit them, or even Spurs.
They know what works for their success, a long-term coach who sets them up to be the underdog like Moyes and consistently provides them with decent league positions. Having ambitions is fine but there is a process to everything.
They know what works for their success, a long-term coach who sets them up to be the underdog like Moyes and consistently provides them with decent league positions. Having ambitions is fine but there is a process to everything.
I said this in another thread. Structurally Everton are a mess. Having injuries to key players didn't help.
Players are low on confidence, and give up easily. After the Watford defeat they looked a proper mess. Not that they were any good before that. Just lucky to get few results.
Rafa has to take some blame. Some of his team selections were dodgy.
But above all, Rafa has to stop taking jobs where he is unwanted (Chelsea and Everton) or following a fan favourite (Ancelotti and Mourinho)
He will probably get a job in Spain or Italy.
Also, the game has evolved. Someone like Mourinho is also struggling.
Players are low on confidence, and give up easily. After the Watford defeat they looked a proper mess. Not that they were any good before that. Just lucky to get few results.
Rafa has to take some blame. Some of his team selections were dodgy.
But above all, Rafa has to stop taking jobs where he is unwanted (Chelsea and Everton) or following a fan favourite (Ancelotti and Mourinho)
He will probably get a job in Spain or Italy.
Also, the game has evolved. Someone like Mourinho is also struggling.
Why would he?
To save the billionaire owners a few million? feck that.
this is definitely not the same situation as recent seasons. Since Matchday 6 we have 1W, 3D and 9L. That’s disgraceful and relegation form. 6 points from a possible 39.
And players favourite. But this wouldn't be an issue if he weren't such a small, petty and jealous man. He fell out with the inter team because the first thing he did upon taking the job was to try and erase mourinho - he fecking wanted the pics from the treble season taken off the walls. At real madrid he took shots at ancelotti in one of his first press conferences
They seem very much like the mid/lower table version of ourselves.
Finances are supposedly there, but can't be fully utilised and when they are the decision making is terrible.
Strange managerial appointments. Okay Carlo is a good manager but the wrong fit, whereas Benitez was their Jose but even more strange in that his face could never ever fit.
A squad full of random players where you can't identify any coherency.
It'll be easier for them to get it together though because they don't have to overhaul powerhouses to get back to 6th-8th. That would be relative success at this point.
Finances are supposedly there, but can't be fully utilised and when they are the decision making is terrible.
Strange managerial appointments. Okay Carlo is a good manager but the wrong fit, whereas Benitez was their Jose but even more strange in that his face could never ever fit.
A squad full of random players where you can't identify any coherency.
It'll be easier for them to get it together though because they don't have to overhaul powerhouses to get back to 6th-8th. That would be relative success at this point.
This was a terrible appointment from the start. Another washed up manager well past his best. I have no doubt he'll get a job somewhere else but I think he's finished in the Premier League.
The decision to hire him in the first place was incredibly stupid. The decisions that some owners make makes me think even you or i could run a club better but then i realised owners who make these decisions are you and i just wealthy enough to be in a position to do so.
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Who do you prefer to take over? Same issue as ours. I don't think you will get any good ones mid season.
Time to enjoy your retirement Rafa. He's 61 now, plenty of cash in the bank, just see out his golden years in Spain instead of slumming it out in the cold dugouts in England.
Back to china then
Rooney on a 18 month deal?
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Who is next in line for the job? Brendan Rodgers? Joking aside, if I was an Everton fan I'd be up for Graham Potter. Not sure if he'd take it though.
Would Rooney take the job?
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Two differences. They know when it’s not working and get rid of quickly. And of course money
Wazza would be an interesting appointment
Terrible appointment in the first place.
They should go all out to get Potter not sure he'd go there though.
They should go all out to get Potter not sure he'd go there though.
That is actually shocking. What were they waiting for? Not like he was like by the fanbase.
Would Rooney jump ship now when he's smack bang in the middle of an epic great escape job at Derby?
And so the managerial merry-go-round continues. Watford will pull the trigger on Ranieri and Benitez will just go waltzing in....or back to Newcastle.
I’d make a tongue in cheek post parodying our own Solskjaer zealots about how Rafa needed 3 years and several hundred million pounds to get a team before being judged and even contemplate a sacking, but yeah they have acted much better than we did 
Wouldnt it be hilarious if they went back to Allardyce or something?
Wouldnt it be hilarious if they went back to Allardyce or something?
One of the most daft appointments in the history of the Premier league, will clubs cop onto the "fact" that Rafa is well washed up at this stage.