Desert Eagle
Punjabi Dude
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3 of the front four have been shocking .Not a fan, just doesn't suit our attacking players at all
3 of the front four have been shocking .Not a fan, just doesn't suit our attacking players at all
Are we really criticising formation and our general play after 1.5 week??? Sure, we should be dominating and winning 10-0 by now. Give the guy some time to make things work!
Are we really criticising formation and our general play after 1.5 week??? Sure, we should be dominating and winning 10-0 by now. Give the guy some time to make things work!
In all honesty, it does not make much sense to criticise things like formation after 1.5 week as things like that need some time before you can say whether it is working or not. How many training sessions did the team have under Ralf? 4 or 5? Do you really expect to see big improvement at this stage?Is critiquing not allowed after 1.5 weeks then? You're only allowed to give an opinion after what 2 weeks? 2 months? 2 years?
It's not even 1.5 weeks though. It's like complaining about your IT department taking three days to fix your issue when you report it at 4:55pm on a Friday and they come along at midday on Monday. The players don't train every day. Give them time to actually have a chance to adapt to the system.Is critiquing not allowed after 1.5 weeks then? You're only allowed to give an opinion after what 2 weeks? 2 months? 2 years?
In all honesty, it does not make much sense to criticise things like formation after 1.5 week as things like that need some time before you can say whether it is working or not. How many training sessions did the team have under Ralf? 4 or 5? Do you really expect to see big improvement at this stage?
Yes, let’s wait a month to see what works and what’s not working.
It might be Ralf's 4222, but definitely not United.
It's not even 1.5 weeks though. It's like complaining about your IT department taking three days to fix your issue when you report it at 4:55pm on a Friday and they come along at midday on Monday. The players don't train every day. Give them time to actually have a chance to adapt to the system.
Honestly, I'm amazed with how kneejerk and demanding our fans can be sometimes. I blame Netflix and the instant gratification generation, personally.
Most definitely. It's strange that we are playing 4-2-2-2 when we don't have the players for it and the new manager in is almost certain not to continue with it in the summer. We don't have any fit strikers, our best players are wide players which this formation restricts and our full backs which provide the width are either shite or out of form.For me this is starting to show :
What happens to the team when a formation/tactic is picked before regarding the best for the player
I'm skeptical. A decent team will cut us open down the flanks for fun, especially with fullbacks who can't defend like Telles and Dalot.
Is critiquing not allowed after 1.5 weeks then? You're only allowed to give an opinion after what 2 weeks? 2 months? 2 years?
RR said we need more intensity from no 10s yet people think Pogba will fit right in. Whatever universe they are in.Bruno was already stinking the place out before we switched to this, but now I don't think he fits in to this formation at all... looking like a real problem for the team.
Pogba would be best suited to the wide playmaker role but he's not back for another month at least. With that in mind, I think we need to look at moving Rashford (who also looks terrible) back in to the left sided position with Cavani or Greenwood up top with Ronaldo.
That's what I think too. Both of them are not exactly good with 1 on 1. Not that AWB and Shaw had been great this season.I'm skeptical. A decent team will cut us open down the flanks for fun, especially with fullbacks who can't defend like Telles and Dalot.
4 - 2 - 2 - 2 was his first go to line up, no? I mean are we turning it around to blame on Ronaldo if it fails later?It's too early to make sweeping judgements that it isn't going to work or its crap.
There are always some worries with a 4-2-2-2 or diamond. The weaknesses are very obvious in how much the full backs have to do and things getting clogged up in the middle. The midfield 2 also get stretched very often in defensive areas.
But there's still a sound logic to it in my opinion, in that it's one of the few ways to get consistent support to Ronaldo in a back 4. RR is sensible enough to know that it's hard to trigger a press with only Ronaldo as the first line. Also Ronaldo generally looks better with a partner. I think it's partly based on trying to get the best out of him.
But maybe he's got to work on our 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 game as well as an alternative.
Nothing to do with blame. Ronaldo is our best and most highly paid player and he's closer to 40 than 30. You have to use his immense strengths and paper over some of the cracks and the obvious way to do that is to make sure he's not leading the line on his own.4 - 2 - 2 - 2 was his first go to line up, no? I mean are we turning it around to blame on Ronaldo if it fails later?
These are pretty much my concerns and question marks around the system. However, until he finds a way to stabilise the defence I reckon RR will persevere with this system. The amount of the times the players lose possession is beyond belief for a such supposed high quality players.true. Also, even in games like this where we play weaker opponents, we seem to struggle with the formation. How many times today have we seen Telles for instance getting the ball and then having to step and search for a player around him? The problem is when sancho/bruno pass the ball to the full backs, sancho/bruno are already behind them. It’s either cross into the box (which isn’t happening properly) or pass the ball backwards. Also, even in the middle, players don’t seem to click yet. Lots of changes in positions which makes it a bit all over the place.
with the players we have, it would be better to play with wingers. Sancho is better as a winger where he can can have more take ons/crosses there. Bruno is better in the middle rather than having to drift left and right. If he is to go back to his best, he would need to play in his preferred position. Rashford has been terrible. But we tried him as a striker before and i guess we can all agree he is better on the left (maybe now the best place for him is the bench anyway).
what will happen to pogba when he comes back? Will he fit in all of this? Are our full backs, all 4 of them, capable of holding up against fast pace opponents with good wingers?
i also do not see us pressing high. Shouldn’t we be doing this?
i too am skeptical. I understand RR has been there for 2 weeks, im not questioning the execution of the formation, i am skeptical about the formation itself.