He didn't put those numbers but his abilities were freakish. What he could do with the ball was already insane hence didn't need to put insane numbers for people to figure they were dealing with a generational talent.
People making him look like he's Danny Welbeck FFS.
Stacks is not entirely wrong. Rashford's finishing is quite poor compared to the players he's being compared to. He is not exactly a good passer and is well behind technically.
Not worried about that. He seems an extremely level headed young man. The only question with Rashford is whether he has the talent/shows the improvement to be absolutely top drawer. Since his technical game isn't completely elite level, he'll probably have to use intelligence and efficiency just as much as he uses his technical and physical gifts to get there. So far he's shaping it for sure.
Naturally the league quality is going to make a massive difference given that the French league is basically a two horse race and the Prem is easily the best league in the world in terms of the quality of competition. It is far more difficult for a young player to shine here than in most other leagues.
I appreciate that, but then you are almost saying that it's impossible for a player from France to be 'better' - not unless he comes to England first. Not sure it works like that.
R9 was a completely different animal to Mbappe in that he scored a goal a game at the same age. He had a knee injury in his 2nd year at PSV and still managed nearly a goal a game. If Mbappe did that then he would be in a completely different category than he is right now. When you score 35 goals in Holland as a 17/18 year old then that is sign of something truly special brewing.
Yea fair enough. And France is 'tougher' than Holland, and Mbappé scored 20+ at 18. In 'half a season' as I keep seeing. Was certainly on about a goal a game since the turn of the year.
No he isn't .....stop telling porkies
Saying the French league is tougher than the Dutch would be like claiming Rooney @18 played in a tougher league than Del Piero @18. You have to put it into context, the current French league was not tougher than the Dutch at the time.
Nar it's really not @Rozay, not France 2017 compared to Holland 1995-1996.
I'd never dream of saying Mbappé is as good as Ronaldo, as I believe Ronaldo is the best player ever.
Hmmm...
Created two excellent chances for himself, one for Griezmann and one for Lacazette only in the 1st half. You already hold a very high standard for him I guess. 2nd half was quite average though.
Except that's not what people say at all. They say it's easier to look impressive and get a goal or assists every game in the French league play for one of the most free flowing sides, or PSG who are several levels above.
That's not a very good performance or a high standard. Grizemanns wasn't a great chance and the defender slipped. Lacazettes chance came about after Mbappe played a nice pass after almost screwing up the 2 on 3 or whatever it was.
Damn.
We dont ever have to have this debate, sirely there must be an expected goals/expecter assist stat
The standard I hold is the rest of the players on the pitch, hence the "didn't stand out". Everyone can interpret it how they like.
I agree, the whole team was shit. A match so boring, it could have put anybody to sleep
Probably not.We dont ever have to have this debate, sirely there must be an expected goals/expecter assist stat
Can see where you're coming from. Mbappe whilst easily better than Rashford (at this moment in time) doesn't have that alienesque ability that Messi/R9 for example had when they burst through. He has very good decision-making for his age, but it might be a Rooney situation where he is already at his peak - i.e. already physically where he will end up and apart from getting more mature, scoring more goals/assists might not have a GOAT ceiling to his game once people figure out his game and devise ways to keep him quiet.
All the feckers on the Martial threads that talk about Rashford as though all he can do is kick a ball past someone and run quickly after it really ought to watch that video.
This is exactly my point. Mbappe's footballing abilities doesn't particularly stand out from his peers and what I keep hearing that set him apart is apparently his mature decision making.
He's the best young player in world football. Can dribble, pass, shoot, score and assist. He's already a complete player and he's only 18.
Like I said his abilities don't stand out from his peers nor set him apart from them. He's currently the most hyped youngster of the lot but there are many youngsters as talented in the likes of Dembele, Martial, I'm hearing Ascensio(though haven't watched much of him, so can't tell) etc. Some might say he's arguably the best of the lot but he's got nothing setting him apart like true generational talent in the likes of Messi did.
Agree with this. A vast majority of the public's perception of Mbappe is based on herd behavior narratives that are picked up on social media, youtube, and forums. One person says he's the next Messi, another person views his YouTube clips and is impressed, another person marvels at his CL scoring, then each of these and many others like them engage in the predictable groupthink deification of the player. He is a fantastic talent no doubt, but he has all his work yet ahead of him and the constant hype can only be a bad thing in terms of setting expectations that are far too high to ever meet.
If he wasn't English and played for a foreign club then his hype would be exponentially higher than it is here.
You're completely off, I wonder how you even judge players to begin with at that point. Nevermind the fact that he has more goals in the CL at 18 than Messi, Cristiano, Rooney (since Ligue 1 performances get dismissed easily around here). That fact alone sets him apart not just from his generation, but any generation, regardless of your views on it. Whether he's capable of keeping it up and improving upon it in the future is still up for debate, although I have no worries on that front. But he's shown a tremendous amount that sets him apart at his early age, to suggest otherwise is ludicrous.
And I'd argue that if Mbappe was English and in Manchester United and Rashford in Ligue 1, this thread wouldn't even exist.
