Only other one I can compare him to for being so explosive and already looking so mature at that age is original Ronaldo.
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Good that Erik is putting the pressure on the board on this. Not having a striker for pre season so he is ready for the start of the season is potentially detrimental.
Just look at the start of last season
Just look at the start of last season
Who said we should do that? A silly idea, for sure.
You know as well as I do that successful clubs usually spend more than their rivals. Clubs who are successful over a long period usually outspend their rivals over a long period.
In any case, recruitment is the most important thing. The total spend in any one window is not really relevant but the power to spend, when required, is very helpful. Ask City or Madrid. They both buy players at decent prices, without necessarily breaking records, because every selling club knows that they can take their money somewhere else and buy better if they want to. The world knows we don’t have that kind of money.
I suggest you first check the amounts Real and City are paying. And that is assuming City are not paying more under the table (which has been proven to have happened already).
And if overspending is the secret, Chelsea should be where City are.
I am not arguing that recruitment is not important. I am arguing that we have more than enough money and don't need more to be successful and get the players we need.
With Ronaldo’s work rate and diet, Rooney would have won a ballon d’or. He was a sublime talent.
Now we have more than enough? Okay.
Its not underappreciated at all. I think pretty much anyone will tell you that he was an absolute phenom. Its incredibly incredibly rare for a player to be that confident, strong clinical etc at that age.
Rooney was far more mature than Ronaldo in his teen years. Ronaldo was a very rough diamond, Rooney was already absolute quality by his late teens.
Yep. We have bought two expensive players already, on the verge of buying another two. Without any major sales.
I probably agree with what you are saying, but let's not go into that discussion in here. I surely hope that he has matured and we keep him, Hojlund and potentially Greenwood would both be needed if we are to compete for anything this season.
Imagine a front line of Rashford, Greenwood and Hojlund.
Onana can pump long balls over the opposition's backline all day.
Are we talking about the same Ronaldo here? The one who had 42 league goals in 46 games for PSV as a teenager and won the world player of the year for Barca aged 20? Maybe re read my post because I said “original”.
He is talking about the Brazilian Ronaldo, not our Ronaldo. And no Rooney was not more mature than that Ronaldo in his teens.
Imo not only the work rate and diet but also the mentality. Rooney was not selfish enough and he was happy to play left, right, center, do the donkey works as SAF asked him to. He cared about the team more than his own achievements. Of course it's a good thing for the team but I'd say not really good for him imo.
Had he stayed as a pure striker he would have won much more personal accolades imo. After all things like Ballon d'Or largely depend on personal records especially goals. Then the English national team being pretty shit at the Euro and WC didn't really help either.
It's hard not to get excited at that possibility, but at the moment we only have 1/3 of that.Imagine a front line of Rashford, Greenwood and Hojlund.
Onana can pump long balls over the opposition's backline all day.
Looking like we'll have to look elsewhere.
They have a very high offer from us but I wouldn't want to increase it any more. If they're okay losing it and keeping the player then fair enough.
They have a very high offer from us but I wouldn't want to increase it any more. If they're okay losing it and keeping the player then fair enough.
Pretty good company to be in!
We’ve not made an official offer? We’re obviously signing him though, so I don’t really get posts like this. Just make your peace with it, we don’t even know the fee yet anyway.
Ronaldo absolutely tore it up for PSV in his teens and won a Balon D'or at 20. That's not a "rough diamond".
Rooney is one of my favourite players of all time. So many childhood memories. What an incredible guy.
I don't get posts like this. Make my peace with it? With what?
We don't know the fee, we don't know if we're signing him or not. I'm going off reports they want much more, which could be true or not.
Nah. We’re signing him, the fee will be much less than the British media are saying. You don’t have to be ITK or mystic Meg to work it out at this point.
Would be good to be able to get him out for a few pre-season matches.
Also he doesn't seem to know more than players who he had at Ajax, played in Holland or have some kind of connection to him. Its like Pep only signing players from Barcelona, Bayern or La Liga.
Mount - Played against him in Dutch league
Eriksen - ex Ajax
Onana - ex Ajax
Martinez - Ajax
Antony - Ajax
Weghorst - Dutch
Malacia - Dutch
Hojlund - Same agent
Sabitzer - Coached at Bayern
Amrabat - Managed him at Utrecht
Looks increasingly likely we will be without a striker for the first 3 games of the season, one of those being Spurs away. Not exactly ideal.
does it? Isn’t it still late July or did I really really sleep well last night?
What about Casemiro?
Hojlund has only just changed agents, its not like he has been with that agency for years.
Looks like there's still ways to go on this deal, and even if it gets done sooner rather than later, he won't be immediately put onto the pitch after having no preseason with the squad. Hopefully, he is ready to go for our Arsenal game.
To be honest I think this is just an indication of how much ETH values our existing scouting/recruiting departments - he basically doesn't at all. He knows that not all of the players that arrive will make it and there are so many positions that need improving. He needs to know not only the skills of the player but the mentality, since the team has been mentally fragile over previous years.
Once he has fixed the major weaknesses in the squad and it's more keeping it fresh, I imagine by then we'll see a bit more variation in recruitment. Hell - there is only so many players that he's coached anyway.
I think RedCafe posters in general have lowered standards and forgotten what actual top class players and good football looks like. Was bound to happen with being away from the top table all these years. The following that the likes of Martial and Pogba had is just an example of it.
I am not going to lie. In a perfect world that front line would be one of the most exciting line ups for quite some time.Imagine a front line of Rashford, Greenwood and Hojlund.
Onana can pump long balls over the opposition's backline all day.
Hojlund only changed to that agency a month or two ago, so think you've got that one the wrong way around. He changed due to our interest, rather than our interest having to do with him having the same agent.
He had the body type that would always give him difficulties with his weight, that was clear when he was a lad. You can see what's happened now that he's not playing, which was inevitable.
I was where you are a few weeks ago. Now I'm not so sure but we'll see.
This deal will be done in a couple of weeks. Likely the week before the season starts. Also, he's a 20 year old moving to a new league. Even if signed tomorrow, I doubt he'll be starting the first few games.
ETH only throws in those players straight in the starting 11 who know his style of play, like Antony. For others like Casemiro, you would expect there will be a bedding in period. So I wouldn't expect him to start against Spurs or Arsenal anyway.
Yes. To some extent this can be an advantage and he may be relying on this in his first windows but sooner or later he will have to forget about ex players/players he had seen or talked to in his previous life and signing completely new ones.
Eriksen being ex-Ajax has nothing to do with signing him for United.
Neither does Højlund, as he has no connections to Ten Hag, other than just recently signing for the same agency, but that's because he wants this transfer.
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We won't pay more than 60, Atalanta want 85, but we could reach a compromise if we add a very specific 8.5mill in addons on top which is still way less than the 85 Atalanta are apparently demanding? Why does the British reporting on this transfer sound like utter bull all the time it's so weird
The Athletic say that United are quoted £60m here.
Edit: This is an analysis article written by Carl Anka and Mark Carey, so it's not a news reporting.
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