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FA asks West Ham midfielder Ravel Morrison "for his observations" on apparently homophobic tweets. Has until Monday to respond.
Great startRob Harris on twitter
FA asks West Ham midfielder Ravel Morrison "for his observations" on apparently homophobic tweets. Has until Monday to respond.
Some people here want him to fail really. Let the young man grow up. He is going to make mistakes, hopefully he will grow stronger and wiser from it.
Nothing to do with it not working out at United. Im GLAD he isnt at United, I want him to fail because he is a scummy vile little twat.That's crazy. Why would you want to see a talented young player fail, just cos it didn't work out at United?
I admit it would be a bit gutting if he went on to a great career at one of our rivals, but I'd like him to do justice to his talent.
I think the point that people are arguing, rightly or wrongly, is that his mistakes are more than simple "teenage" mistakes. When you add on the fact that he's got an excellent opportunity to progress in life I think it really gets under people's collective skin.Some people here want him to fail really. Let the young man grow up. He is going to make mistakes, hopefully he will grow stronger and wiser from it.
Calling someone a faggot is a homophobic statement.How the feck is his statement homophobic?
If you think calling someone a faggot in the way Morrison did is not homophobic then it's probably best you do.I'll keep my mouth shut on this one
It's very easy to see why. Even if we say that the use of the word 'faggot' as an insult on its own is not homophobic, Morrison's use of the word followed an instruction to 'go and suck a dick'. It would be like using a racial pejorative against someone after referencing something associated with that particular racial group. It would be undeniably racist, in the same way that this is undeniably homophobic.Some people need to get a grip. How the feck is his statement homophobic?
Nobody in the public eye would be able to get away with calling somebody a faggot without having to retract the statement and apologise. The word 'Paki' was a common insult for people to use during the 70s and 80s, but that doesn't mean it wasn't offensive. You could make an argument that the word faggot has lost most of its meaning - 'the Louis CK argument' - but as I said above, Morrison clearly used it to mean homosexual.Is the word faggot socially acceptable though? I mean I hear people say words like faggot, Fag and similar all the time and don't really think of it as offensive in the same way as say a racial term. Not that it is the right thing to say or whatever, just that it is a pretty commonly used insult such as feck and cnut etc.
Obviously being a footballer he should know better but seems like a non story to me.
Fair enough, I didn't see that way.It's very easy to see why. Even if we say that the use of the word 'faggot' as an insult on its own is not homophobic, Morrison's use of the word followed an instruction to 'go and suck a dick'. It would be like using a racial pejorative against someone after referencing something associated with that particular racial group. It would be undeniably racist, in the same way that this is undeniably homophobic..
I admit it was stupid to say but probably 99 percent of the Caf has made anti gay remarks on this forum. I'm sure very few have used racial abuse without being banned. Double standards?It's very easy to see why. Even if we say that the use of the word 'faggot' as an insult on its own is not homophobic, Morrison's use of the word followed an instruction to 'go and suck a dick'. It would be like using a racial pejorative against someone after referencing something associated with that particular racial group. It would be undeniably racist, in the same way that this is undeniably homophobic.
Nobody in the public eye would be able to get away with calling somebody a faggot without having to retract the statement and apologise. The word 'Paki' was a common insult for people to use during the 70s and 80s, but that doesn't mean it wasn't offensive. You could make an argument that the word faggot has lost most of its meaning - 'the Louis CK argument' - but as I said above, Morrison clearly used it to mean homosexual.
Perhaps this shouldn't be a big deal, but it is when it comes at a time when football is making considerable efforts to encourage gay players to feel comfortable in coming out.
Implying that someone is gay and then calling them a "faggot" is as homophobic as it gets.I admit it was stupid to say but probably 99 percent of the Caf has made anti gay remarks on this forum. I'm sure very few have used racial abuse without being banned. Double standards?
Surely it is only homophobic if the guy he was responding to is actually gay?
No, I think that "faggot" has not been accepted by polite society in the way that "fag", "queer", "bender" and "sausage jockey" have. "Faggot" still retains a hateful edge in my view.Is the word faggot socially acceptable though? I mean I hear people say words like faggot, Fag and similar all the time and don't really think of it as offensive in the same way as say a racial term. Not that it is the right thing to say or whatever, just that it is a pretty commonly used insult such as feck and cnut etc.
Obviously being a footballer he should know better but seems like a non story to me.
aye, with my gay male friends they would not be as offended by queer as they would by faggot.Words they say to each other such as queer, poof would still be seen as offensive if said by someone who is not gay, however. As far as I now they never say 'faggot' to each other even in a jokey way.No, I think that "faggot" has not been accepted by polite society in the way that "fag", "queer", "bender" and "sausage jockey" have. "Faggot" still retains a hateful edge in my view.
Anti gay remarks should not be tolerated in this day and age. There was a newbie that got banned for making comments. That said, I think sometimes people write comments that they don't believe are homophobic, but are. I would say if a third person found it offensive, even if who he said to did not, it is still homophobic. Much like reporting of racism. Would you call a friend who is white a 'paki'?I admit it was stupid to say but probably 99 percent of the Caf has made anti gay remarks on this forum. I'm sure very few have used racial abuse without being banned. Double standards?
Surely it is only homophobic if the guy he was responding to is actually gay?
If anyone used that word in that context on the caf they'd be banned.I admit it was stupid to say but probably 99 percent of the Caf has made anti gay remarks on this forum. I'm sure very few have used racial abuse without being banned. Double standards?
Surely it is only homophobic if the guy he was responding to is actually gay?
The culture's changed very quickly, even five or six years ago on here that and much worse was routineIf anyone used that word in that context on the caf they'd be banned.
No, I think that "faggot" has not been accepted by polite society in the way that "fag", "queer", "bender" and "sausage jockey" have. "Faggot" still retains a hateful edge in my view.
Faggot still retains its venom in the gay world... apparently its quite an insult for one gay male to angrily call another gay male a faggot.aye, with my gay male friends they would not be as offended by queer as they would by faggot.Words they say to each other such as queer, poof would still be seen as offensive if said by someone who is not gay, however. As far as I now they never say 'faggot' to each other even in a jokey way.
I agree. South Park say fag a lot. They don't use faggot because fag is something kids use to rip on each other whilst faggot is always derogatory. It even sounds mean.No, I think that "faggot" has not been accepted by polite society in the way that "fag", "queer", "bender" and "sausage jockey" have. "Faggot" still retains a hateful edge in my view.
deliciously funny.The friendly form is 'fagrito' - that implies deep and lasting friendship
Fair enough I'm just sure ive seen words like that float around on the Caf, as an example Randall Flaggs temporary name change. How does anyone know if he OS really homosexual and if he is then surely it is offensive (just an example of how its impossible to know someone's sexual preferences on an internet forum)If anyone used that word in that context on the caf they'd be banned.