VP89
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PissedWish my girlfriend was the same.
PissedWish my girlfriend was the same.
I'm not cleaning it up.Pissed
Fergie's gesture was classy because it was personal and surprising. If the common expectation of all losing managers in that situation was to take a bottle of champagne to the winning team's dressing room, then it would have totally taken away from what was special about it. Doing what he did would have only been regarded as embarrassing, but necessary to avoid looking like a sore loser.Obviously they do not have to give a guard of honour.
Equally, Fergie didn't have to turn up in the away team dressing room with bottles of Champagne when Arsenal clinched the title by beating us at Old Trafford in 2002. But he did it anyway.
Real Madrid are pathetic and embarrassing.
It's an interesting one, because had City won the league against us this season, and if Mourinho then showed up with 2 bottles of champagne... I'm not sure it would have gone down so well on here.Fergie's gesture was classy because it was personal and surprising. If the common expectation of all losing managers in that situation was to take a bottle of champagne to the winning team's dressing room, then it would have totally taken away from what was special about it. Doing what he did would have only been regarded as embarrassing, but necessary to avoid looking like a sore loser.
If any team wants to give a guard of honour, then fair play to them, but if the losing team are only doing it out of some sort of social obligation rather than out of genuine respect, then what's the point?
Wish my girlfriend was the same.
I don't disagree and nor do I think taking champagne to the opposing team's dressing room is the obligation of every manager - I was just using it as an example of magnanimity in defeat and respect for one's advisaries, even in acute situations. But then that begs the question, why don't Madrid respect Barcelona's achievement.Fergie's gesture was classy because it was personal and surprising. If the common expectation of all losing managers in that situation was to take a bottle of champagne to the winning team's dressing room, then it would have totally taken away from what was special about it. Doing what he did would have only been regarded as embarrassing, but necessary to avoid looking like a sore loser.
If any team wants to give a guard of honour, then fair play to them, but if the losing team are only doing it out of some sort of social obligation rather than out of genuine respect, then what's the point?
No but I'm sure I could give her one. I'll leave it there now.
Well She can be but then She'd refuse to give you a Guard of Honour .
It might not have gone down well on here in 2002 either, but, 16 years later, in the cold light of day, we can appreciate it for the act of magnanimity it was.It's an interesting one, because had City won the league against us this season, and if Mourinho then showed up with 2 bottles of champagne... I'm not sure it would have gone down so well on here.
I'd definitely want us to do it if that horrific situation ever arose.I don't think anyone here would want to do it for Liverpool if they ever win the league, and I doubt anyone would think of it as to being classless. It's just being a rival.
Any examples of us doing a guard of honour for Chelsea or Arsenal isn't even comparable to Liverpool.
Yeah it's about that. You're free to feel that way you make yourself feel better.We'll take the success and let you feed of the trivia.
The bitterness towards Real is just unreal. Every victory, every result, every title is scrutinized and people come up with 100 reasons daily to hate Real any way, just to make themselves feel better.
For sure. The thing is, it's amazing whether they do it or don't, because either option is agony for them.Yeah.
On the contrary were Liverpool to refuse giving us one I'd find that hilarious
Athletic Bilbao did it in 1929-30, and Real Madrid did it in 1931-32. At the time there were only 18 games though.I wonder if them potentially winning unbeaten has something to do with it (assuming it's never been done before).
Unlikely though.
its far from just football rivalry. While politics are not directly involved, the two cities simply do not like or interact with each otherI think it would be small time of it weren't for the fact that Catalonia doesn't want to be a part of Spain. So I can understand if the capital of Spain doesn't want to honour the capital of Spain in anyway shape or form . It's not like Liverpool Vs Manchester where it's just football rivalry. It goes much deeper. I can understand why Madrid may not want to give them that during this time
My thoughts exactly. Half the time the team watching is already mentally beaten just from watching it.