For discussing a realistic summer transfer window, this thread has gone bonkers. The constant links with Monaco players is tiring as well. We're not going to buy half their team!
Realistic Summer 2017: Ins & Outs
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Its hard to imagine so many players coming in and going out this summer, but i think this transfer window calls for it. Managers hate having so many in's an out's but if we qualify for the champions league, or god forbid, the europa league via the league, we'll certainly need a big squad.
Out:
Jones
Rooney
Zlatan
Januzaj
Young
B.Jackson
In:
B.Silva (dream signing, magical on the ball)
Belotti (has all the characteristics of a jose p[layer, physical, great in the air, 2 footed and hussles defences)
Fabinho (hes the calibre of player we need, get that DM role sorted once and for all)
Semedo (its hard to imagine going for a RB after the season valencia has had, unfortunately darmian doesnt look like a natural successor)
Keane (i'd rather have varane like most, but keane still looks a solid player, knows the league well too)
Willian (I honestly think he'll join us, jose was a huge fan at chelsea, willian isnt getting much game time, final big contract of his career. natural right speeder winger, really missing that type at of player OT)
As you can see, ive left out griezmann. I dont believe in blowing a majority/all of our budget on him. Spreading the money across the team will have a bigger impact than spending it on one player. I'd love to see griezmann at OT, hes a quality player, but i dont want to sacrifice other areas of the team just for him.
So, 6 changes, so far thats a huge a amount of change within the squad. Would any manager want so many changes in one window, when it looks like jose is just finding his first team? 6 players is a massive change for any team.
On top of those changes, we have the de gea saga. Would we seriously have 7 changes at OT in one window? i highly doubt it.
Out:
de gea
In:
Oblak / Handanovic
I'd offer an extension to carrick, he still has plenty to offer. Fellaini, i would keep him, he offers something else that others cant, hes certainly not a starter in my eyes. I dont want to dismiss his qualities, i just dont think hes united quality. Hes a great threat come the end of a game when we need a goal via crosses etc.
Its so hard to imagine that many changes in 1 transfer window, tho, i feel the team needs it. Playing in europe an premier will demand a huge "quality" squad, which we need, but will we do it?
Possibly starting something like this?
Handanovic
Valencia/semedo...Bailly....Keane...Shaw
Fabinho....Pogba
Silva....Miki...Martial
Belotti
Rashford would rotate with martial / belotti, giving him as much play time as possible. Same goes with willan and silva / miki, constantly rotating.
Seriously, no idea who will come in or leave this window, but rest assured, the manager has a huge job on his hands. Hopefully the manager has already agreed terms with some signings so we get them in fast and hit the ground running. One thing is for sure, it will be a extremely interesting window.
Out:
Jones
Rooney
Zlatan
Januzaj
Young
B.Jackson
In:
B.Silva (dream signing, magical on the ball)
Belotti (has all the characteristics of a jose p[layer, physical, great in the air, 2 footed and hussles defences)
Fabinho (hes the calibre of player we need, get that DM role sorted once and for all)
Semedo (its hard to imagine going for a RB after the season valencia has had, unfortunately darmian doesnt look like a natural successor)
Keane (i'd rather have varane like most, but keane still looks a solid player, knows the league well too)
Willian (I honestly think he'll join us, jose was a huge fan at chelsea, willian isnt getting much game time, final big contract of his career. natural right speeder winger, really missing that type at of player OT)
As you can see, ive left out griezmann. I dont believe in blowing a majority/all of our budget on him. Spreading the money across the team will have a bigger impact than spending it on one player. I'd love to see griezmann at OT, hes a quality player, but i dont want to sacrifice other areas of the team just for him.
So, 6 changes, so far thats a huge a amount of change within the squad. Would any manager want so many changes in one window, when it looks like jose is just finding his first team? 6 players is a massive change for any team.
On top of those changes, we have the de gea saga. Would we seriously have 7 changes at OT in one window? i highly doubt it.
Out:
de gea
In:
Oblak / Handanovic
I'd offer an extension to carrick, he still has plenty to offer. Fellaini, i would keep him, he offers something else that others cant, hes certainly not a starter in my eyes. I dont want to dismiss his qualities, i just dont think hes united quality. Hes a great threat come the end of a game when we need a goal via crosses etc.
Its so hard to imagine that many changes in 1 transfer window, tho, i feel the team needs it. Playing in europe an premier will demand a huge "quality" squad, which we need, but will we do it?
Possibly starting something like this?
Handanovic
Valencia/semedo...Bailly....Keane...Shaw
Fabinho....Pogba
Silva....Miki...Martial
Belotti
Rashford would rotate with martial / belotti, giving him as much play time as possible. Same goes with willan and silva / miki, constantly rotating.
Seriously, no idea who will come in or leave this window, but rest assured, the manager has a huge job on his hands. Hopefully the manager has already agreed terms with some signings so we get them in fast and hit the ground running. One thing is for sure, it will be a extremely interesting window.
It's pretty obvious that Mourinho prefers one hard working, defensively capable winger so I wouldn't mind Willian coming in. He's better than Lingard that's for sure.
Certainly hope you are wrong about Keane @ CB and I disagree with defence not being a concern. It is like a lot of our first eleven. We have a squad with good numbers can play there Smalling, Jones, Blind, Bailly, Rojo, Mensah, Tuanzabe. Bailly I think is quality, really like him and as much as I havent liked Rojo he has done very well there but forgetting the inexperienced yet talented Mensah/Tuanzabe we have a lot of injury prone and average centre backs. Personally I would like to see a couple leave with Mensah/Tuanzabe quality yougn back up and for us to sign a top quality one to partner Bailly to improve the team. Keane for me just adds another average centre back to the squad and doesnt improve the team.
IN
Lindelof CB
Mendy LB
Matuidi CDM
Mahrez RW
Just can't see us buying Greizmann to play centre forward or number 10. The only position I think we would sign him to play would be RW so Mahrez is a more realistic and cheaper alternative if that doesn't happen.
Lindelof CB
Mendy LB
Matuidi CDM
Mahrez RW
Just can't see us buying Greizmann to play centre forward or number 10. The only position I think we would sign him to play would be RW so Mahrez is a more realistic and cheaper alternative if that doesn't happen.
Might sound ridiculous but I like the idea of a Keane, two Brazilians (B. Silva, Fabinho) and a French striker (Griezmann) in red so I'd like to see that.
Considering our biggest problem is scoring and Zlatan will be gone, if this is who we signed we would probably have no chance next season at competing
Silva is Portuguese isn't he? Still fancy him though.
Sorry Portuguese (don't know too much about him), even better though!
We should have rule where you can only select on Atletico Madrid and only one Monaco player.
Griezmann, Hernandez, Fabinho. Matuidi, Semedo,
Griezmann, Hernandez, Fabinho. Matuidi, Semedo,
Portuguese
I doubt we'd get two Monaco players in one window. It'd be far more realistic to go for someone like Mahrez rather than Silva. They both seem to have similar qualities.
I reckon purchases of Mahrez, Fabinho, Griezmann and Semedo would see us challenging for the CL next season (assuming we get there).
I reckon purchases of Mahrez, Fabinho, Griezmann and Semedo would see us challenging for the CL next season (assuming we get there).
I think we will bring in
DM - Fabinho
CB - Keane/lindeloff
ST - morata
ST/AM - Griezmann
Outs
Rooney
De gea
Maybe Ibra
DM - Fabinho
CB - Keane/lindeloff
ST - morata
ST/AM - Griezmann
Outs
Rooney
De gea
Maybe Ibra
I think Silva is our fall back option should we fail with Griezmann, the one player we look like getting from Monaco is Fabinho. I think Fabinho, Griezmann and a fullback and we will be done. We could sign a CB if we find someone dumb enough to pay 20 million for Jones.
We had 3 players leaving this year already all on big wages. We are gonna see Ibra,Rooney,De Gea(hopefully not),Darmian,Fellaini,Jones,Young,Januzaj leaving or at least some of them. How is it then strange to expect 6 to 8 new players?
3 signings lol?
We need at least 2 Centre Mids before even bothering with the rest of the squad.
2 midfielders
1 wide player
1 Striker
1 CB (maybe 2 if he goes for Keane)
and then a LB and even a RB.
Crazy summer inbound
Agreed, but i think also some depends on who we can sell or offload. Not that great players with high wages might be hard to sell.
Realistic(Not touching the goalkeeper dilemma)
Left OR right back - Aurier. Even though "people" say he is a troublemaker he is pure class both ways.
CB - Many small rumors, Van Dijk or Keane or something like that.
CDM - Fabinho.
At least 1 Attacking player - Griezmann seems inbound.
Get the same feeling regarding Fabinho and Griezmann as last year with Zlatan. Think a deal is in place for both, and will be signed if/when we get the champions league qualification. The same goes for Aurier, but i think he will come regardless of CL qual.
In an ideal world we would sell all the out of date or injury prone players and completely revitalize the squad.
If we don't get CL football, we're not getting Greizmann, Mbappe or the likes. Even with CL football you'd have to think twice given that 'struggling for top 5' now seems the norm regardless of how much we spend.
That aside, assuming we get CL football and I'm wrong about our pull decrease, I'd like to see us aim for: (If de Gea leaves) Schmeichel (GK) Keane (CB) Silva (MF) Griezmann (FW) and another forward/striker to replace Zlatan. I don't think we'll be getting Lukaku. Maybe Morata would be a good buy. I would take James too in a second as I think he's underrated by many of our fans, however, I think we'd have to make our peace with Mkhi being labelled a flop and sold on if we got James.
That aside, assuming we get CL football and I'm wrong about our pull decrease, I'd like to see us aim for: (If de Gea leaves) Schmeichel (GK) Keane (CB) Silva (MF) Griezmann (FW) and another forward/striker to replace Zlatan. I don't think we'll be getting Lukaku. Maybe Morata would be a good buy. I would take James too in a second as I think he's underrated by many of our fans, however, I think we'd have to make our peace with Mkhi being labelled a flop and sold on if we got James.
CB: I do see Michael Keane coming back.
DM: The Dier links are still roaming, so possibly it'll be him or Fabinho.
SS: I still think Griezmann is nailed on.
ST: this could be a Morata, or even someone like Hernandez, it depends on what Mourinho wants to do with Rashford.
I also wasn't sure about Luke Shaw but I think we'll go for a LB now to be honest, maybe Mendy.
DM: The Dier links are still roaming, so possibly it'll be him or Fabinho.
SS: I still think Griezmann is nailed on.
ST: this could be a Morata, or even someone like Hernandez, it depends on what Mourinho wants to do with Rashford.
I also wasn't sure about Luke Shaw but I think we'll go for a LB now to be honest, maybe Mendy.
I found this a reasonably interesting read:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2708392-a-complete-look-at-man-uniteds-summer-transfer-plans
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2708392-a-complete-look-at-man-uniteds-summer-transfer-plans
This would be great.
As others have said though, getting two Monaco players might be tricky.
Though I expect a bit of an exodus from them so maybe 3-4 players leave so why not we bag two of them?
Mourinho is clearly unhappy with our lack of "killers" so it will be interesting to see if he does sign a number 10 & a number 9 too!
I wouldn't be against Rashford as our main striker, but I do think if we're to have a serious assault on the PL (and hopefully CL) then we'll need a proven goalscorer who's capable of 30+ a season
I wouldn't be against Rashford as our main striker, but I do think if we're to have a serious assault on the PL (and hopefully CL) then we'll need a proven goalscorer who's capable of 30+ a season
Thanks for that, that was an interesting read.
Definitely isn't far from the truth. CB, LB, CM, Griezmann, and a new striker. The GK depends on the De Gea situation. So we could see 5 incoming should De Gea stay.
The problem we have is that under Ferguson we were always in a position where we had the luxury of replacing a player before a player needed replacing
Now we are in a position where you could realistically say that only the GK position is currently well-staffed, and this will change if we lose Dave!
That isn't too say that we don't have some quality players, just that it is difficult to know where to start. For example, I want a new LB, but would I prioritise this over a CF? Probably not. It is incredibly difficult for a manager to get every single transfer correct so my thinking would be fairly simple - try and make improvements in the area that has affected us most, namely the forwards
To that end, I would be interested in any forward, younger than 30, who has pace, power, trickery and proven goalscoring ability. When I saw forward, I am including #10s and wide midfielders in that too
I would also 100% snap up Jermain Defoe. I know some fans would criticise this as a stop gap but imagine if we had a player like Defoe coming off the bench in the 70th minute against Hull, Burnley, Bournemouth and WBA this season! I am almost certain we would have at least 4 more points had we had this as an opiton
Now we are in a position where you could realistically say that only the GK position is currently well-staffed, and this will change if we lose Dave!
That isn't too say that we don't have some quality players, just that it is difficult to know where to start. For example, I want a new LB, but would I prioritise this over a CF? Probably not. It is incredibly difficult for a manager to get every single transfer correct so my thinking would be fairly simple - try and make improvements in the area that has affected us most, namely the forwards
To that end, I would be interested in any forward, younger than 30, who has pace, power, trickery and proven goalscoring ability. When I saw forward, I am including #10s and wide midfielders in that too
I would also 100% snap up Jermain Defoe. I know some fans would criticise this as a stop gap but imagine if we had a player like Defoe coming off the bench in the 70th minute against Hull, Burnley, Bournemouth and WBA this season! I am almost certain we would have at least 4 more points had we had this as an opiton
Agree with you on bringing Defoe in. Like when we loaned Henrik Larsson. Seasoned, but still in good physical shape. There is really not much of a downside with that deal.
If we get Griezmann in addition to that, then i think we have enough attacking players for now. Even though i would much rather have Dybala, but he is bound for Spain next summer. Or the summer after that.
What should be our main priorities above all else is getting a new set of fullbacks(Aurier and some LB ) and Fabinho.
This should be prioritized above all else, even before getting rid of Rooney.
No club in europe spent £200m gross in the whole of 2016-17 so an article that claims that United will spend £300m is unlikely to be even remotely realistic.
Try one star signing + 2 at around £30m each plus a keeper if De Gea leaves. Prices will be insane this summer.
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We have already made some sales and may make some more, also prices will go another level of crazy again this summer.
We won't get much for £30m. Maybe a Keane or something. I 'd be very surprised if there's not a minimum of 2 £60m+ signings.
In:
A Ball-playing CB (such as, but not necessarily, Virgil van Dijk)
A No. 10 (James Rodriguez?)
A Striker (Griezmann?)
A Left back (that is, if Jose has lost faith in Shaw and Darmian)
A Ball-playing CB (such as, but not necessarily, Virgil van Dijk)
A No. 10 (James Rodriguez?)
A Striker (Griezmann?)
A Left back (that is, if Jose has lost faith in Shaw and Darmian)
Romero
Valencia Bailly van Dijk Shaw
Herrera Pogba
Mhkitaryan Rodriguez Rashford
Griezmann
Basically copying Jose's 09/10 Inter team, albeit more attacking/"english" Valencia Bailly van Dijk Shaw
Herrera Pogba
Mhkitaryan Rodriguez Rashford
Griezmann
Out:
Jones
Smalling
Fellaini
Rooney
De Gea
Jones
Smalling
Fellaini
Rooney
De Gea
It's hard to think that after the last 4 summers (with so many transfers), we still need another 5-7 players for our squad. This is just insane!
On a conservative basis, we need:. 1 CB, 1 LB, 1 CM/CDM, and 1 striker. My preferences are Van Dijk, (anyone with a proper left foot cross!), Fabinho, and Lukaku. If we add Griezmann on top of this, it will be a perfect summer.
Outs are: Rooney, Young, Jones or Smalling (one of the two). We don't need more players to leave. I'd like to see Fellaini and Carrick (age) also replaced, but that will be too much of a churn.
Also, interested to see what Jose does with Perierra and Januzaj. The latter particularly looks like he will be sold.
On a conservative basis, we need:. 1 CB, 1 LB, 1 CM/CDM, and 1 striker. My preferences are Van Dijk, (anyone with a proper left foot cross!), Fabinho, and Lukaku. If we add Griezmann on top of this, it will be a perfect summer.
Outs are: Rooney, Young, Jones or Smalling (one of the two). We don't need more players to leave. I'd like to see Fellaini and Carrick (age) also replaced, but that will be too much of a churn.
Also, interested to see what Jose does with Perierra and Januzaj. The latter particularly looks like he will be sold.
£30m players are not what we are looking for.
We need genuine proven talents. First team players.
it wont be unusual for us to buy 5-6 players becuase to be honest that is what we need. The squad needs a real revamp starting from the back.
The de gea saga will be forever looming but if we make the champions league I'm sure he will stay. If not i would go for Oblak however romero could do a fine job and we can then promote a youth team keeper as back up.
The defence needs major reinforcement:
-A new RB to offer competition to Valencia; Serge Aurier would be my ideal choice.
-A ball playing centre back to partner Bailly. My dream signing would be Bonnuci but that's unlikely. Alderwierald or Van Dijk could do a job.
-Regarding the LB situation I'm sure that Shaw will stay and make the left flank his own.
Even after so much money on the midfield it is still so mediocre. it needs some major work.
-Carrick is now to old to play every game and needs replacing. Julian Wiegl/Pardes Verrati would be excellent. I do hope carrick stays another year to ease the transiton of a new DM as his experience is invaluable.
-Hopfully Pogba steps his game up a gear or two next season. I would love to see someone like Isco partner him in the long run. our midfield has no creativity, without pogba its extremely poor and most of our players have no football IQ.
Our attack is evidently very poor and predictable. Martial needs to step up his game if he wants a future at the club.
We need a winger with pace who can beat a man. Douglas costa fits the bill. He'll be brilliant for us.
Lastly that marque player with a bit of magic to turn a game around. I would love to see Dybala however its unlikely as we'll have to smash the world record fee again, so i think well go for griezmann.
All in all I obviously don't see all these players signing for us in one transfer window. These are just my thoughts. i hope we see the return of some exiting fast football in Old Trafford. I do beleive that Mourinho is the man to bring this once he gets the players he needs.
The de gea saga will be forever looming but if we make the champions league I'm sure he will stay. If not i would go for Oblak however romero could do a fine job and we can then promote a youth team keeper as back up.
The defence needs major reinforcement:
-A new RB to offer competition to Valencia; Serge Aurier would be my ideal choice.
-A ball playing centre back to partner Bailly. My dream signing would be Bonnuci but that's unlikely. Alderwierald or Van Dijk could do a job.
-Regarding the LB situation I'm sure that Shaw will stay and make the left flank his own.
Even after so much money on the midfield it is still so mediocre. it needs some major work.
-Carrick is now to old to play every game and needs replacing. Julian Wiegl/Pardes Verrati would be excellent. I do hope carrick stays another year to ease the transiton of a new DM as his experience is invaluable.
-Hopfully Pogba steps his game up a gear or two next season. I would love to see someone like Isco partner him in the long run. our midfield has no creativity, without pogba its extremely poor and most of our players have no football IQ.
Our attack is evidently very poor and predictable. Martial needs to step up his game if he wants a future at the club.
We need a winger with pace who can beat a man. Douglas costa fits the bill. He'll be brilliant for us.
Lastly that marque player with a bit of magic to turn a game around. I would love to see Dybala however its unlikely as we'll have to smash the world record fee again, so i think well go for griezmann.
All in all I obviously don't see all these players signing for us in one transfer window. These are just my thoughts. i hope we see the return of some exiting fast football in Old Trafford. I do beleive that Mourinho is the man to bring this once he gets the players he needs.
I think we'll keep Fellaini as cover since we are short of CMs, and he offers aerial strength.
I think he'll keep at at least one of Jones and Smalling, but Mou will sell Blind.
Out:
Rooney
Jones
Blind
Probably one of Darmian, Shaw and Young.
Out:
Income from winter transfers: £40m
In:
-------------------Oblak---------------------------
Semedo-----Bailly---Manolas------------Bernat
--------------Fabinho--Pogba--------------------
B.Silva---------Griezmann---------------Bale
-----------------Rashford----------------------
-----------------Romero-----------------------
Valencia-----Tuanzebe---Rojo----------Blind
----------Dendoncker--Herrera--------------
Mkhitaryan------Pereira----------Lingard
------------------Martial------------------
Reserve: J.Pereira, Smalling, TFM, Fellaini, Young, Defoe
- Zlatan (out of contract)
- Rooney (off to MLS or China)
- Carrick (retirement)
- De Gea (transfer to Real)
- Januzaj (transfer to Lyon or something)
- Darmian (transfer to Inter)
- Jones (transfer to some lower PL team)
- Shaw (transfer to spurs)
- Mata (transfer to Atlético Madrid)
Income from winter transfers: £40m
In:
- Griezmann (release clause)
- Bale
- B.Silva
- Defoe (on a free)
- Fabinho
- Dendoncker
- Semedo
- Bernat
- Manolas
- Oblak
- Pereira (back from loan)
-------------------Oblak---------------------------
Semedo-----Bailly---Manolas------------Bernat
--------------Fabinho--Pogba--------------------
B.Silva---------Griezmann---------------Bale
-----------------Rashford----------------------
-----------------Romero-----------------------
Valencia-----Tuanzebe---Rojo----------Blind
----------Dendoncker--Herrera--------------
Mkhitaryan------Pereira----------Lingard
------------------Martial------------------
Reserve: J.Pereira, Smalling, TFM, Fellaini, Young, Defoe
Given current rumours, I can see this happening:
IN: Keane, Dier, Bernardo Silva, Griezmann
OUT: Jones, Young, Mata, Rooney, Zlatan (
(Edit): obviously Perreira returning will be like a new signing as well.
Any of you lot actually watch any games?
Where's the left back?? We don't have one and is clearly going to be one of his biggest priorities this summer.
Yeah, I've been hoping we could get away with not signing one this summer but there's no way we don't sign a first choice LB now.
Surely we're not spending £400m this summer
If we want an improvement next season, Jose needs to forget this 'working with a small squad' nonsense.
We'll be playing in 4 competitions again and our players have been absolutely knackered for the past few months. He's now also seen first-hand what our injury record is like.
If he thinks bringining in 3 new players will be a good idea, he'll be gone at the end of next season.
Looking at our potential sales, we're looking at a good 6 new signings.
We'll be playing in 4 competitions again and our players have been absolutely knackered for the past few months. He's now also seen first-hand what our injury record is like.
If he thinks bringining in 3 new players will be a good idea, he'll be gone at the end of next season.
Looking at our potential sales, we're looking at a good 6 new signings.
I think some people seem to forget that the title of this thread has the word 'realisitic' in it.