RedCafe - Minute by Minute

Feedingseagulls said:
Could I suggest that others might be allowed on about 15 mins or so after the final whistle to comment on how the commentary went or points brought up. This w/e was my first chance to look occasionally at the thread whilst watching the game on TV - I thought they did quite a good job tbh.
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The MBM thread is supposed to be a non-judgemental reflection of events on the pitch. As such, there shouldn't be a need to comment on points brought up (other than commenting on the game itself, for which there are a million and one other threads to use)

If any of the MBM commentators are making comments that would prompt someone to challenge their point of view, then they're probably not doing it right, IMO.

With regards to feedback on how the commentary went, in general, this thread is probably the best place for it. I would echo Geebs comments about not using the thread to air personal gripes about team formation/tactics/substitutions etc.
 
Anybody signed up to do Villareal? I tend to watch Champions League games using streams, but always have some sort of trouble with em, so it would be much appreciated if someone stepped up.
 
I'll sign up for Villareal. Has been a while since I did one. I'll be watching the match on ITV's stream but that is normally pretty good if just a few seconds late. Do I still pm Moses?
 
I forgot to for the last game. Just posted in here. Don't see that there is any need really as you've done it before.
 
Ok I will set up a thread when I get home. Would be good if someone else can step up.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The MBM thread is supposed to be a non-judgemental reflection of events on the pitch. As such, there shouldn't be a need to comment on points brought up (other than commenting on the game itself, for which there are a million and one other threads to use)

If any of the MBM commentators are making comments that would prompt someone to challenge their point of view, then they're probably not doing it right, IMO.

With regards to feedback on how the commentary went, in general, this thread is probably the best place for it. I would echo Geebs comments about not using the thread to air personal gripes about team formation/tactics/substitutions etc.
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Well it's very likely that judgements are made and reflected all the time - was it a foul/offside etc.

Slotting comments into the usual moan/wank-fest about something substantive during the game is likely to get it lost I'd reckon.

Opinions on team substitutions have probably occurred due to the prevalence of such remarks during commercial commentaries. Separating editorial from factual reporting is an art even professionals struggle to learn.
 
Feedingseagulls said:
Well it's very likely that judgements are made and reflected all the time - was it a foul/offside etc.

Slotting comments into the usual moan/wank-fest about something substantive during the game is likely to get it lost I'd reckon.

Opinions on team substitutions have probably occurred due to the prevalence of such remarks during commercial commentaries. Separating editorial from factual reporting is an art even professionals struggle to learn.
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Agree with all of that. Especially the bit about commercial commentaries being over-opinionated.

Still not sure why you think the MBM thread should be kept open for comments on issues relevant to that particular thread? (i.e. comments that aren't applicable to the game in general) :confused:
 
Personally I don't think the MBM thread should be open to opinions post-match. That's why we have the United forum where people can express their own views as freely as they want. One of the main purposes of the thread is that it allows people who have missed the match a quick run through of the main highlights of the game. Opinions are still valid to an extent but all there really needs to be at the end of the game is a quick summary of the whole match. Not an extensive critique.
 
FlawlessThaw said:
Personally I don't think the MBM thread should be open to opinions post-match. That's why we have the United forum where people can express their own views as freely as they want. One of the main purposes of the thread is that it allows people who have missed the match a quick run through of the main highlights of the game. Opinions are still valid to an extent but all there really needs to be at the end of the game is a quick summary of the whole match. Not an extensive critique.
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Quite.

I personally think even a quick summary defeats the purpose of the thread.
 
Pogue, FlawlessThaw and Sults are correct.

The MBM thread is for match commentary only. The only people allowed to post in it are those given permission at the beginning of the individual match thread. Anybody else that posts will be excluded from the football forums.
 
Sultan said:
Quite.

I personally think even a quick summary defeats the purpose of the thread.
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I can accept the logic for not allowing the thread to go past its 'sell by date' and look much bigger than required.

I can see the value of a brief summary of the game from the posters concerned though - it's fairly traditional in journalistic circles - though it is often moved to the start in the papers. Knowing it's at the end would also help a 'returnee home' to get the facts prior to delving into the thread.
 
Perhaps we should set up a usergroup of people approved to do minute by minute commentary and one or two of this group can do each game. This would prevent anyone else commenting. Sorted.

In this case does the matchday serve any purpose whatsoever? I thend to think it has been a pointless and irritating presence for a number of seasons now and if we have a minute by minute then we don't need a matchday forum for people who can't watch the game.

Post game discussion can occur in the United forum as it has always done.
 
Wibble said:
Perhaps we should set up a usergroup of people approved to do minute by minute commentary and one or two of this group can do each game. This would prevent anyone else commenting. Sorted.

In this case does the matchday serve any purpose whatsoever? I thend to think it has been a pointless and irritating presence for a number of seasons now and if we have a minute by minute then we don't need a matchday forum for people who can't watch the game.

Post game discussion can occur in the United forum as it has always done.
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I agree with that all, never seen any point in the matchday thread. Half of it consists of 'FFS Ronaldo:mad:'.
 
Wibble said:
Perhaps we should set up a usergroup of people approved to do minute by minute commentary and one or two of this group can do each game. This would prevent anyone else commenting. Sorted.

In this case does the matchday serve any purpose whatsoever? I thend to think it has been a pointless and irritating presence for a number of seasons now and if we have a minute by minute then we don't need a matchday forum for people who can't watch the game.

Post game discussion can occur in the United forum as it has always done.
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I think a lot of tards like the matchday thread as a forum to chat shite about the game, with fellow reds, as it happens. I can imagine this most valued by the poor cnuts who live on the other side of the world and have to watch games in the middle of the night, on their tod.

Which is fair enough really.
 
Matchday thread if nothing else protects the Manchester United forum from becoming a loon fest during a game. Just imagine the number of threads which could potentially be started during a game.

Wibbs idea of putting a number of volunteers for the MBM into a seperate usergroup seems logical.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I think a lot of tards like the matchday thread as a forum to chat shite about the game, with fellow reds, as it happens. I can imagine this most valued by the poor cnuts who live on the other side of the world and have to watch games in the middle of the night, on their tod.

Which is fair enough really.
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Tards like masturbating to pictures of Tommy and posting fake scores.

I live on the other side of the world and have to watch matches in the middle of the night and I could personally euthanise 95% of posters in the matchday thread.

Go figure?
 
Wibble said:
Tards like masturbating to pictures of Tommy and posting fake scores.

I live on the other side of the world and have to watch matches in the middle of the night and I could personally euthanise 95% of posters in the matchday thread.

Go figure?
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You and me both, Wibbles.

But I think Sultan's point about the Match-Day thread basically keeping the lunatics in the asylum is an excellent one.
 
Quite possible.

On the other hand the absence of a matchday thread could give us an excuse for an axe wielding rampage. :)
 
I only read the match day threads during the breaks, and have never understood the fascination with posting on a message board while the match is still on (unless you can't watch the match of course)
But it seems that a lot of people like using the match day thread during games and they should be allowed to do so in my opinion, so it'd be silly to get rid of the threads.

Plech tried creating "Half-Time"-threads a couple of times for a bit more in-depth discussions about the just finished half, and those threads actually worked quite well as opposed to the match day threads where it's impossible to really discuss anything in the break as it'll jump to the next page within seconds because of the activity.
I'm not talking about a replacement for the match day threads, as, like I said, some people also like posting during the matches, but it'd be a nice alternative during the breaks.
 
I'm reading the MBM for the first time with no television access and finding it very helpful. My thanks to FlawlessThaw and Brwned, good work from you both.
 
feck. King. Hell.

Just flicked through a couple of pages of the old-school match-day thread. Sweet jesus, please don't ever close it down. The amount of gimps collected in one place is frightening. If they have nowhere else to go on match-days this place will go into some kind of uber-spasticated melt-down.

Scary stuff.
 
Good work. It would have been suicide-inducing to rely on the "open" matchday thread for proper information.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
feck. King. Hell.

Just flicked through a couple of pages of the old-school match-day thread. Sweet jesus, please don't ever close it down. The amount of gimps collected in one place is frightening. If they have nowhere else to go on match-days this place will go into some kind of uber-spasticated melt-down.

Scary stuff.
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O'Shea sux RAFAEL FTW!!!11!!

Teveth shud fuk off he cudnt evn score WTF.

0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 OMG LOLZ.
 
Brad said:
Incidently, what's a usergroup, and how would that work?
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We would have to create a sub-forum, where designated posters would be put into a usergroup from our side. The software would then only allow access to those posters in that group to post in the MBM thread. All other posters would just be abe to veiw the sub-forum.
 
Ah ok. Seems fair enough, takes other people commenting in the MbM out of the equation

The matchday forum, I've tried a few times this season to post something reasonable, i.e more than about 5 words in a single post. What's the point though, it's on the last page within seconds of 15 more "OMG Rooney is SHIT I ** him BUY Bellioninho Fergie". I appreciate what you guys say about it keeping the loonatics in the asylum, but these people still post and feck up the main United forum when the games done, if we all recognise they're that bad, what the hell are they doing promoted in the first place?

Good to have as many folk her as we can, but not if they're gunna dick the place up
 
Promotion isn't really about quality. It is about stopping invasions, preparing the newbies for the main forum and stopping WUMs and returnees.

It isn't easy to demonstrate quality in there anyway.

Axe welding rampages are the answer I feel.
 
I half think we should can the matchday thread in favour of the MbM thread which would be put in a sub forum to prevent others posting and then infract the loons if they screw up the main forum instead.

Screw care in the community. Tought love is required*

* banning.
 
Wibble said:
Quite possible.

On the other hand the absence of a matchday thread could give us an excuse for an axe wielding rampage. :)
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Wibble said:
Tards like masturbating to pictures of Tommy and posting fake scores.

I live on the other side of the world and have to watch matches in the middle of the night and I could personally euthanise 95% of posters in the matchday thread.

Go figure?
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Wibble said:
Promotion isn't really about quality. It is about stopping invasions, preparing the newbies for the main forum and stopping WUMs and returnees.

It isn't easy to demonstrate quality in there anyway.

Axe welding rampages are the answer I feel.
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Wibble said:
I half think we should can the matchday thread in favour of the MbM thread which would be put in a sub forum to prevent others posting and then infract the loons if they screw up the main forum instead.

Screw care in the community. Tought love is required*

* banning.
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I may be out on a limb here, but I get the feeling Wibble wants to ban a few people.
 
If ever justification for a Minute by Minute thread were needed, just check out the matchday thread carnage ...
 
Not particularly easy doing a MbM thread when nowhere is showing the bloody game though eh, utter farce. United have millions of supporters across the globe, lets fleece them for all the money we can, but I know lets not actually let them watch all the games :rolleyes:

The match thread is a massive farce. Someone was on to something when they said the whole bloody thing should be scrapped. If you're not gunna ban the posters who feck it up for everyone else, at least scrap the vehicle that allows them to be muppets
 
Every time there was a goal the was 25-30 lads posting

1-0 or Tevez or some bollox

not one person described the goal. Mind you the matchday threads are always far worse when the game isn't on tele, unfortunately those are the only time I ever venture into them, pages and pages of people crying out fpr streams. all stream talk should be banned
 
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