They got him for 80m Which we were hesitant to offer. Its like 45 in bonuses? We were offering 20m in bonuses i think.
Renato Sanches joins Bayern
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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Sanches is nothing big either. Anyway, I don't trust you anymore after your endorsement of mighty Rojo. Have you seen him, like a lab experiment gone wrong... David Luiz with an extra IQ downgrade.
I'm probably too late with this 3 liner a bud sent me:
11:09am Bayern sign Renato Sanches
11:42am Bayern sign Mats Hummels
12:01pm Woodward still in bed with LvG
the amount of aggro by some of our fans over not signing Sanches is a bit much, especially as I'd rate most haven't watched him enough, if at all (like said bud, above).
11:09am Bayern sign Renato Sanches
11:42am Bayern sign Mats Hummels
12:01pm Woodward still in bed with LvG
the amount of aggro by some of our fans over not signing Sanches is a bit much, especially as I'd rate most haven't watched him enough, if at all (like said bud, above). i'm guessing a lot of people are heartbroken right now.Maybe we were never strongly interested and Benfica were merely using the Portugese press to get more money out of Bayern...?
Where did I say we weren't interested?
We could have signed him up after the first or second or fifth or tenth positive scouting trip. Then the door is closed to Bayern and all others.
This is just typical football Media. All the "in the know" newspapers said we were after him and then Bayern get him they're saying we were snubbed to cover their backs.
I highly, highly doubt there was enough interest to warrant a bid.
As somebody who didn't want him anyway I'm fairly pleased just in case we did end up paying god knows how much on him.
I highly, highly doubt there was enough interest to warrant a bid.
As somebody who didn't want him anyway I'm fairly pleased just in case we did end up paying god knows how much on him.
I choose to believe we dodged a bullet.
It's one thing to be happy you didn't spend €80m on a teenager but to say he's not all that talented
He's clearly one of the best midfield prospects in Europe at the moment.Well elite natural ability is what he absolutely has. But i'll be willing to let him do the talking when he eventually moves to a top european club this year as well. João Mário is attracting interest from top european clubs as well (United, Arsenal, Barcelona, Atlético Madrid are all part of the rumours).
Thought he'd have been great for us. I'm gutted tbh
I'd hate to see your response to that @NL_Max lad after the Memphis signing Don't worry Steve. I told you. Myself and @Robbie Boy are here for you. We can make a campfire, burn marshmallows and sing kumba-ya my Louis together. Again, nothing feminine about this setting. Very masculine.
Google translate of the statement from Benfica's website says this:
Its 45 mil in total, which is 35 mil pounds at todays exchange rate.
Spinning it the other way, if we've scouted him 24 times and Bayern have only scouted him twice, maybe we have a little bit of a better idea if he looks worth that much money or not...
I think it's just boredom that causes people to be upset by this. It seemed like we were signing him, a young talent; a CM prospect along the lines of Martial. The fact that we've been lulled into extreme boredom causes people to lay their eggs in baskets like this a little easier, I think.
The golden rule - never blame the media or the club. Ultimately you were gullible enough to get excited by a reality that didn't exist.
Not bothered at all. Bayern can make these gambles considering that they have also the likes of Martinez, Thiago and Vidal in midfield. If the transfer doesn't work, they will lose 35m euros, but the results won't get affected. However if we bought him for a lot of money and the transfer doesn't work, then we would have lost money in addition to having to play Fellaini in midfield.
I don't want us to sign young players for a shitload of money, unless they are pretty much stars in the making, like Martial. Sanches can go either way, and isn't an attacker in the first place to command that much money. The beneficial thing on signing young players is that they cost cheap, but if you have to pay 35m (+45m in add ons), then it isn't a very shrewd business IMO.
Also, not all big money transfers from Portuguese League work, and as efficient as Bayern are, not each transfer they make works well. Still think that Bayern have made a very risky signing, which could go either way. I would much prefer if we go for a more safe transfer, considering that we need to improve the squad immediately, not 5 years down the line.
I don't want us to sign young players for a shitload of money, unless they are pretty much stars in the making, like Martial. Sanches can go either way, and isn't an attacker in the first place to command that much money. The beneficial thing on signing young players is that they cost cheap, but if you have to pay 35m (+45m in add ons), then it isn't a very shrewd business IMO.
Also, not all big money transfers from Portuguese League work, and as efficient as Bayern are, not each transfer they make works well. Still think that Bayern have made a very risky signing, which could go either way. I would much prefer if we go for a more safe transfer, considering that we need to improve the squad immediately, not 5 years down the line.
This place will be glorious this summer.
Does this mean we doomed to have World Class Wayne trundling through our midfield for evermore?
*blubs*
*blubs*
I mean, maybe he chose Bayern over us?
#duedilligence
His name no longer marks red when you tag him, I think he has deleted his account after this fiasco...
The fact that we played Benfica twice and certainly did a shitload of scouting and research as preparation for the games means the club has seen a lot more than just scouting reports of 2 games.
I agree that it's annoying to use this to bash United though. But that's the Caf these days, everything works as ammunition to have a shot at van Gaal/Woodward. That being said, transfer threads are always full of people with extreme opinions. Everyone is more often than not either worldclass or shit. You simply can't predict how transfers turn out, there are so many reasons why a transfer can fail, no matter if it's a young talent or an established player. It's good that we take risks to sign players with huge potential in an attempt to stay where we are though. You simply have to do that in football today, but many of the players won't turn out as brilliant as people initially thought.
In that regard us singing Götze and Thiago in 2013 is really comparable to Barca signing Fabregas and Sanchez in 2011. Both times the majority of people predicted that it would cement the place of the clubs at the top and both times it didn't work out that way. You gotta keep trying though. What else can you do with all that money football clubs make these days?
I miss the halcyon days of OranjeCafe.
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Getting stuff done before a busy summer with the Euros and all that. Bayern doing good business.
Still watching that space though.
Still watching that space though.
After today I refuse to hope or dream of any player joining us. Despite not being totally convinced I let my hopes rest in the scouts if we actually signed him but instead we got royally Rick Roll'd
My assessment of Rojo was spot on actually. I said he wasn't good enough for us as LB and that he was competent as CB but had concentration and positional lapses. It was pretty clear. And it's pretty natural for players to struggle when moving to top leagues (even with bigger name players coming from the Serie A or La Liga to England). My assessment (not endorsement) was from his time playing for us. Pretty easy to understand for a football scholar like yourself.
Didn't we scout him around 7000 times over the last year?
Which part you want me to translate?
Yeah, I literally just noticed that when I tried to tag him in.His name no longer marks red when you tag him, I think he has deleted his account after this fiasco...
It all makes sense now Kevin. Apparently Memphis has recently started deleting/minimising alot of his online accounts, like unfollowing a lot of people on twitter/insta whatever.
So clearly Memphis has been told to focus more on his football, and thus he thought it a good idea to delete his Caf account!
/sherlock
Imagine it. Every player that moves anywhere will be a nail in Eds coffin. He'll just have to sign literally everyone.
This isn't true. Up until last week, the club was briefing it was confident of a deal.
This would be true if we dropped interest but we didn't. It's has been widely reported for months that wooward and Benfica have been arguing over the nature of guaranteed payments and bonuses. The fee we would have paid is similar to what Bayern have. The problem her is what we spent months arguing about, Bayern have done in two days.
Nah you were endorsing him, saying he would make it and making doomsayers feel better about having signed him.
And if that wasn't enough to convince us....
What's the fuss anyway? he never ever looked like the type of player we need in midfield!
When we're desperately crying out for a creative influence to replace Carrick people getting in a lather over a workhorse midfielder? I don't get it
In addition, the 24 time is coming from a random journo, not from the club. Since Moyes was sacked, one thing we know for sure about United, is that journos know feck all on what we are doing or planning to do. Both Sanches and that other Portuguese midfielder a couple years back have been signed and scouted a dozen times according to newspapers, but who knows what is the truth. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was the same case as the other Benfica player (Gaitan) whom from the media we signed and scouted twice a week.
Didn't he start following us on social media and everything? A bit like Depay last year I thought this was a foregon conclusion.