Harsh review on an autistic childKid was way over the barrier impeding Ronaldo's path and trying to photograph his injury. People shouting abuse ect. Ronaldo got annoyed by an asshole. Of course he was wrong because that's the position he holds.
So autistic people can't be assholes?Harsh review on an autistic child
I think anything until the end of May is harsh. Unless he stays. Then it should be an 18 month ban.Wouldn't 9 months be more appropriate?
Their condition actually makes it more likely that they're assholes by society's standards since they have trouble judging social situations and interactions. That's not their fault though and this dude is 14. Though granted, children are also assholes.So autistic people can't be assholes?
Could of killed him
Yes, yes and no.Since the police is investigating the incident as an assault case:
If Ronaldo is criminally charged could United suspend him without pay pending investigation?
And if he is convicted, could United terminate his contract without having to pay Ronaldo a dime going forward?
Or would be considered a minor crime and not relevant in the grand scheme of things?
Given that Greenwood has been on full pay after being charged with far far more serious crimes it would be impossible to suspend him *without* pay. I can’t think of a single example of a misdemeanour type offence where a player has been suspended and sacked.Yes, yes and no.
He won't be charged by the police though, let alone convicted.
I think that’s a bit unfair. The word ‘assault’ in the English language has certain connotations, but the legal term is very different. You seem to be choosing to apply your personal understanding of the word to the law’s definition of the term. This is not about it being 2022, it’s about legal definitions vs your individual understanding.The fact that this is labelled as an Assault is indicative of the year 2022. What he punched the kid in the face did he? The kids hand doesn’t even look like it has a bruise on it, so he just has a broken phone. Absolutely stupid from Ronaldo of course but to label it as assault is absolutely ridiculous
Can the parents siu him?Yes, yes and no.
He won't be charged by the police though, let alone convicted.
Look at the state of his nailTo be fair his leg was a little fecked up. Not exactly on his death bed or bad enough to justify his behaviour but he'd definately caught a few studs.
You do realise that an employer not paying him is essentially saying we believe you’re guilty before a trial? I’m sure if Greenwood is found to have broken the law he will be released from his contract retrospectively and United will take legal action to acquire the salary he has been afford while on leave, which is completely normal process.Given that Greenwood has been on full pay after being charged with far far more serious crimes it would be impossible to suspend him *without* pay. I can’t think of a single example of a misdemeanour type offence where a player has been suspended and sacked.
I know all that, and that would be the right thing to do. The post I was replying to asked whether Ronaldo could be suspended without pay if charged though.You do realise that an employer not paying him is essentially saying we believe you’re guilty before a trial? I’m sure if Greenwood is found to have broken the law he will be released from his contract retrospectively and United will take legal action to acquire the salary he has been afford while on leave, which is completely normal process.
Finally someone getting in on it!Can the parents siu him?
Greenwood has not been charged with anything yet.Given that Greenwood has been on full pay after being charged with far far more serious crimes it would be impossible to suspend him *without* pay. I can’t think of a single example of a misdemeanour type offence where a player has been suspended and sacked.
Yeah totally wrong to do it, however like you say totally ridiculous for it to be branded assaultThe fact that this is labelled as an Assault is indicative of the year 2022. What he punched the kid in the face did he? The kids hand doesn’t even look like it has a bruise on it, so he just has a broken phone. Absolutely stupid from Ronaldo of course but to label it as assault is absolutely ridiculous
Good point, I confused being arrested/bailed with being charged.Greenwood has not been charged with anything yet.
There won’t be detectives looking at this nor will there be a court case. There won’t be any forensic evidence.I am sure the detectives thats investigating the case will look into this. Forensic evidence could be crucial in a potential court case. Maybe its possible to detect if the alleged victim is hurling abuse at Ronaldo before the attack takes place - or if he is just an innocent part.
Legally speaking it absolutely is and has been an assault for a very long time.The fact that this is labelled as an Assault is indicative of the year 2022. What he punched the kid in the face did he? The kids hand doesn’t even look like it has a bruise on it, so he just has a broken phone. Absolutely stupid from Ronaldo of course but to label it as assault is absolutely ridiculous
Why didn't the police do anything given plenty saw it?Legally speaking it absolutely is and has been an assault for a very long time.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...o-ronaldo-phone-incident-police-investigationWhy didn't the police do anything given plenty saw it?
If you’re talking about the Ronaldo incident, the incident happened less than 24 hours ago. Unless the police actually saw it themselves I’m sure it would have to be officially reported, then prioritised, then looked into. I personally think it’s a nothing incident and will be forgotten in a few days without any police or club involvement, but I hardly think the police are dragging their feet.Why didn't the police do anything given plenty saw it?
Obviously, that’s not what I’m saying… he’ll pay the consequences but just because he’s a millionaire people go over the top. If a normal person did that to someone you wouldn’t be getting anything back in return. So he should pay the consequences and then everyone should move on. Was just Ronaldo being a sore loser as always… people make mistakes and then instantly regret it.If anyone, ever mind some some multi millionaire adult twat did anything of the sort to my kid I'd not just shrug it off.
Not being gracious to a winner is being a sore loser. A very priveleged adult smashing a child's phone is being an utter cnut. There's nothing to move on from, it just is what it is.Obviously, that’s not what I’m saying… he’ll pay the consequences but just because he’s a millionaire people go over the top. If a normal person did that to someone you wouldn’t be getting anything back in return. So he should pay the consequences and then everyone should move on. Was just Ronaldo being a sore loser as always… people make mistakes and then instantly regret it.
Yes yes and yesIts a mistake in the heat of the moment. Shit happens. Cantona kung-fu kicked someone in the crowd. Its a phone ffs. Most of us have done shit like this in the heat of a moment.
Nobody is perfect. Give him a fine to give to the parents(which is probably what they want) and get on with it.
On a side note, there shoul be a bigger distance between the players and crowd. Having players receive that kind of vitriol so close to them is crazy.