I think that's not entirely possible in urban areas in 2022.They should definitely have mined the harbor... the problem with the rail/runway/bridge destruction though, is you don't want to remove those resources from your own use until absolutely necessary. I do completely agree though, that as they retreat they need to go scorched earth and remove that infrastructure from Russian hands.
The problem with scorched earth is that it will negatively affect the local population, not all of whom will have managed to escape. It made sense for the Soviet Union in WW2, but partly that was because they were defending against a war of extermination, and so nearly any sacrifice seemed worth it. I know people like to say they'll fight to the last man, but very rarely does that actually happen.They should definitely have mined the harbor... the problem with the rail/runway/bridge destruction though, is you don't want to remove those resources from your own use until absolutely necessary. I do completely agree though, that as they retreat they need to go scorched earth and remove that infrastructure from Russian hands.
People need to stand together and push back. Once he takes Ukraine, he will target more. Soon others will become the minority. All you hear is sanctions, sanctions bla bla bla. Waste of space. Get boots on the ground and defendWhat do you want? Western boots on the ground? Direct war between Russia and the US?
I think the sanctions against iran are massively unfair. Iran doesn't do anything everyone else hasn't done.It's not about paying for it, but the hypocrisy of it all.
You sanction Iran because they're radical? Terrorist? etc but when your gas got hit you welcome them back with open arms? So all those sanctions for something evil that Iran supposedly did, is now forgiven because we need oil?
Thats not going to work. Nobody wants what is happening in Ukranian cities, to happen to their cities.People need to stand together and push back. Once he takes Ukraine, he will target more. Soon others will become the minority. All you hear is sanctions, sanctions bla bla bla. Waste of space. Get boots on the ground and defend
The Ukranians will give you a gun if you drive there now. Go ahead.People need to stand together and push back. Once he takes Ukraine, he will target more. Soon others will become the minority. All you hear is sanctions, sanctions bla bla bla. Waste of space. Get boots on the ground and defend
Yes, but for once this is all beside the point. There is a fullscale invasion by some accounts underway. The West's record is academic in the unfolding situation. I just want a source for good updates.Would love to know more on the Russian side of the story. Always 3 sides to any story, the two opposing sides and the truth.
I’m sure the West is portrayed just as badly there as Russians are portrayed here.
Let’s be honest though, the western leaders aren’t exactly saints and in the UK we’ve also got a terrible history of colonisation and invading other countries which has always been celebrated until more recent years.
I’m not trying to defend Russia in anyway here. Just merely highlighting that propoganda is just as rife here in the west.
Bridges have weight limits. You remove / weaken the ones that can support an armored advance.I think that's not entirely possible in urban areas in 2022.
Roads are interconnected, and blowing up one bridge or two won't impede 21st century war machine. And Russian aren't in it for the resources, at least not in the short run.
All the way.All this, and he's still blaming the EU and NATO. Is he actually in the pocket of the Russians?
This just isn't possible. If you put NATO boots on the ground, you've started World War 3. Best case scenario we get a limited, conventional war, which is still going to be terrible and increase the pressure in Europe and the world up to as of yet unseen levels. Worst case scenario is you've just ended civilization, because it involves two sides with a combined total of many thousands of nukes.People need to stand together and push back. Once he takes Ukraine, he will target more. Soon others will become the minority. All you hear is sanctions, sanctions bla bla bla. Waste of space. Get boots on the ground and defend
I'm aware. There's always different answers when weighing a cost/benefit analysis, especially when armchair generaling an ongoing war. I simply posted what my personal conclusion would be.The problem with scorched earth is that it will negatively affect the local population, not all of whom will have managed to escape. It made sense for the Soviet Union in WW2, but partly that was because they were defending against a war of extermination, and so nearly any sacrifice seemed worth it. I know people like to say they'll fight to the last man, but very rarely does that actually happen.
Forget nuke, a conventional war could escalate very fast and destroy 1-2 surrounding citiesThis just isn't possible. If you put NATO boots on the ground, you've started World War 3. Best case scenario we get a limited, conventional war, which is still going to be terrible and increase the pressure in Europe and the world up to as of yet unseen levels. Worst case scenario is you've just ended civilization, because it involves two sides with a combined total of many thousands of nukes.
As for standing together, that's sort of the point of NATO (or at least ideally it is, sometimes it's not quite as defensive). He could target more, for sure, but he can't and won't invade a NATO country. Which is why Ukraine wanted to join in the first place.
He's a dickhead, but in fairness Corbyn and Abbot were also blaming the west for the Ukraine crisis just a fortnite ago. I don't think these people are paid shills, just like to be contrarian.All this, and he's still blaming the EU and NATO. Is he actually in the pocket of the Russians?
Exactly, nail on the head. Turn a blind eye Joe. That's the spirit.Thats not going to work. Nobody wants what is happening in Ukranian cities, to happen to their cities.
How many deaths are acceptable to make a stand and defend Ukraine? That's the calculation that matters here. WW3 level casualties is a heavy price.People need to stand together and push back. Once he takes Ukraine, he will target more. Soon others will become the minority. All you hear is sanctions, sanctions bla bla bla. Waste of space. Get boots on the ground and defend
Please don’t fire me.Glad you're having fun. Meanwhile people are dying in a war. But yay, you win the internet argument?
Attaboy.
You realise the second a NATO soldier's boots hit the ground, the war will likely be over in a few hours with devastating consequences for all of us.People need to stand together and push back. Once he takes Ukraine, he will target more. Soon others will become the minority. All you hear is sanctions, sanctions bla bla bla. Waste of space. Get boots on the ground and defend
To be fair, it's not 1944 anymore. Taking out a bridge will result in only a short delay these days. A few hours at most.Bridges have weight limits. You remove / weaken the ones that can support an armored advance.
Christ, stay safe mate.If I’m not going to appear here for a few days than I’m probably detained, although we’ll see how strict the police is going to be today.
Good point tbh, I'm a dick too. A bit angry I suppose.You don't see the irony here? You could have just ignored his comment, but instead you decided to make a big point out of it, ending in the condescending "attaboy", just to score some internet points. And all this while people are dying in a war.
Maybe he and I are misguided, but you're sure as hell no better.
I’m aware of this as well. But it buys time, and expends Russian resources. It also creates a choke point that can be exploited to maximize Russian losses.To be fair, it's not 1944 anymore. Taking out a bridge will result in only a short delay these days. A few hours at most.
Oh I agree, just saying that it clearly sends the wrong message (not that I agree with Iran sanction in the first place)I think the sanctions against iran are massively unfair. Iran doesn't do anything everyone else hasn't done.
Yeah I get you, I'm angry too. This is all just very upsetting, and that's the feeling that made me post it in the first place. Maybe not helpful or productive.Good point tbh, I'm a dick too. A bit angry I suppose.
It doesn't take much time, though. They have those pontoon bridge vehicles that can setup in moments (I don't know how long it actually takes) to make a crossing. Plus, they can undeploy and redeploy, so no resources are really used.I’m aware of this as well. But it buys time, and expends Russian resources. It also creates a choke point that can be exploited to maximize Russian losses.
Their military doesn't even have a lot of precision weaponry, it is not a concern for them and too expensive. The MRLS and their masses of artillary are bad enough but look up what a TOS-1 can do...That Rob Lee guy says that Russia were using non-presicion missiles in built up areas from the off
I'd expect Moscow to be cracking down on dissenters even far more than normal from now on? Stay safe, I'm sure you dont' need telling to be careful what you say on social media from now on.If I’m not going to appear here for a few days than I’m probably detained, although we’ll see how strict the police is going to be today.
I have few doubts personally. His links to Trump/Bannon/Assange etc puts him right in the thick of it.All this, and he's still blaming the EU and NATO. Is he actually in the pocket of the Russians?
Good luck mate. We are all thinking of youIf I’m not going to appear here for a few days than I’m probably detained, although we’ll see how strict the police is going to be today.