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And think that the russians were expecting to be received like that...
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Absolutely.Hertling does great work on Twitter, the best Ukraine War follow I have.
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Yep. I always read his comments on the situation on Twitter about every day.Hertling does great work on Twitter, the best Ukraine War follow I have.
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He's going to fall out of a window pretty soon while having a cigarette. Wonder if the assassination of his daughter has made him not care about his own life anymore.Dafuq? Putin will fall, but do you think Putin will kill him first for that?
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"Calls for" is a bit strong. It's a 100 year old literary reference which is again referencing older folklore, and even then it's written more as "this is what happens" than "this is what should happen".Dafuq? Putin will fall, but do you think Putin will kill him first for that?
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It really is wild when you think about it. By the end of this conflict Russia may realistically end up having massacred thousands upon thousands of their own men (presumably men in the prime age of their lives as well), totally tanked their economy and the reserves they had in stock and made themselves a complete pariah in the international community, all while having actually gained nothing bar the destruction of their neighboring country.What a pointless war this has been so far. Barring tactical nukes, Russia has lost. 100.000 dead or wounded is staggering considering the length if the war. Of course Ukraine is destroyed more than Russia, but they have handled it bravely and superbly. Somewhat scary to think about how we go from here. Putin cannot be treated any differently than the fascist dictators of the recent past.
It’s losses all round. Aside from the killed and kidnapped people, Ukraine will come out of this a much stronger country when all is said and done. I’d expect floods of foreign aid and investment. They will build a military that ensures Russian can never again threaten them and be on a path to one day join EU/NATO. They will also be first to jump to aid against Russia whenever any other country needs it.It really is wild when you think about it. By the end of this conflict Russia may realistically end up having massacred thousands upon thousands of their own men (presumably men in the prime age of their lives as well), totally tanked their economy and the reserves they had in stock and made themselves a complete pariah in the international community, all while having actually gained nothing bar the destruction of their neighboring country.
For some reason this reminded me of a guy who used to post here during early months of war:This didn’t age very well.Tweet
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Wonder what happened to that guy. Probably thinks they are fighting NATO or what's the latest copium out there.The messaging here (Russia), albeit not stated so directly, is that Putin has to take all of Ukraine at this point. First Donbas (which will likely fall by the end of June), then the north, then Lviv, with the aim to have the entire country 'taken' by October. Putin (via Peskov) keeps saying that the 3 core aims of this "special military operation" given by Putin prior to the invasion (destruction of the Azov Batallion, demilitarisation of Ukraine, and Ukrainian neutrality) have not changed, and – this part matters most – he has “no doubts that they will be accomplished in full” (he doesn’t say stuff like this if he doesn’t strongly believe it’s a foregone conclusion). The Azov Batallion have already surrendered, neutrality is basically assured at this point, which leaves only the trickiest one: demilitarisation. Since the US are at least saying they're committed for the long term, that means Putin needs Kiev (although literally an hour ago John Kirby at the Pentagon gave a press conference in which he said they need to be realistic about sending heavy weapons to Ukraine because "time is not on our side" - in other words, this looks like being over sooner rather than later, but I'm going to write more on that when I reply to an earlier post that was addressed to me about why I believe Ukraine can't win this war from here).
I've already stated my belief that there isn't going to be a meaningful counter-offensive (there is a massive disconnect between what Zelenskiy and Kuleba say in their rallying calls when addressing the likes of Davos or the American Senate, and what the actual generals on the ground like Zaluzhnyi are saying).
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I am sure @Cheimoon will promote him again soon enough.For some reason this reminded me of a guy who used to post here during early months of war:
Wonder what happened to that guy. Probably thinks they are fighting NATO or what's the latest copium out there.
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Oh he's busy trolling other message boards I'm sure.For some reason this reminded me of a guy who used to post here during early months of war:
Wonder what happened to that guy. Probably thinks they are fighting NATO or what's the latest copium out there.
In terms of the costs for the naked aggressor:It really is wild when you think about it. By the end of this conflict Russia may realistically end up having massacred thousands upon thousands of their own men (presumably men in the prime age of their lives as well), totally tanked their economy and the reserves they had in stock and made themselves a complete pariah in the international community, all while having actually gained nothing bar the destruction of their neighboring country.
To add -In terms of the costs for the naked aggressor:
- Economic destruction
- Loss of any remaining European understanding (outside lunatic fringe/payroll)
- Diplomatic isolation
- Loss of influence in Central Asia
- Military crippled and fearsome reputation gone
- Educated youth fled abroad
- Ukraine now with strong national identity and strongly anti-Russian
As for the “gains” column, they have a strip of devastated land which they can, at best, try to hold in a frozen conflict at the cost of further destroying their country’s future.
I honestly struggle to think of a parallel for such wanton self-destruction (Don’t mention the “B” word - that almost seems sane by comparison).
Not sure why I need to be dragged into this?I am sure @Cheimoon will promote him again soon enough.
Because you are the one who started spreading the asshole's propaganda here (from newbies), even before he was promoted. But mainly it was a joke that you have a tendency of promoting banned users (madwinger), albeit there was 2 assumptions from me, 1 that it was you who promoted him and 2 that he is actually banned.Not sure why I need to be dragged into this?
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Well, that's wrong on all counts then. I don't have that tendency, I didn't promote him, he's not banned, and his early posts were actually interesting (before he started posting here and focused on bashing Glasto and basically everyone that disagreed while exaggerating his own points).Because you are the one who started spreading the asshole's propaganda here (from newbies), even before he was promoted. But mainly it was a joke that you have a tendency of promoting banned users (madwinger), albeit there was 2 assumptions from me, 1 that it was you who promoted him and 2 that he is actually banned.
Should have been made a mod.Well, that's wrong on all counts then. I don't have that tendency, I didn't promote him, he's not banned, and his early posts were actually interesting (before he started posting here and focused on bashing Glasto and basically everyone that disagreed while exaggerating his own points).
I'll admit that he was not technically wrong to bash Glasto.Should have been made a mod.
Another one is that Ukraine is now an eternal enemy of Russia. It wasn't like that before 2014.In terms of the costs for the naked aggressor:
- Economic destruction
- Loss of any remaining European understanding (outside lunatic fringe/payroll)
- Diplomatic isolation
- Loss of influence in Central Asia
- Military crippled and fearsome reputation gone
- Educated youth fled abroad
- Ukraine now with strong national identity and strongly anti-Russian
As for the “gains” column, they have a strip of devastated land which they can, at best, try to hold in a frozen conflict at the cost of further destroying their country’s future.
I honestly struggle to think of a parallel for such wanton self-destruction (Don’t mention the “B” word - that almost seems sane by comparison).
Appointing David Moyes.I honestly struggle to think of a parallel for such wanton self-destruction (Don’t mention the “B” word - that almost seems sane by comparison).
Oh its always been in Putin's power to make Russia a prosperous country, never been in his interests though. He even did the hard part very quickly, getting control of the corruption and was lauded by the west. He then just took it to a whole new level.What if Russia in 2014 actually decided to support Ukraine, build a friendly relationship with them, and help Ukraine be admitted into the EU? Ukraine would actually become one of the closest Russian allies, only if Russia behaved differently. And actually there was no real reason for Russia not to do that, they wouldn't lose anything by supporting a european path for Ukraine. Russia could make a lot of money selling gas and everyone would be happy. It was really stupid they decided to violently subjugate Ukraine instead, there was no real gain for Russia, whatever the outcome of this. It is not like Russia lacked space or resources. They only managed to alienate many countries.