I know I don't shut up about him, but my God do I hate Sutton.
Quite like Chapman though.
I know I don't shut up about him, but my God do I hate Sutton.
Chapman was the voice of reason among the dribble from Savage and Sutton.I know I don't shut up about him, but my God do I hate Sutton.
Quite like Chapman though.
Fecking hell are they on drugs or what, what absolute loons.Great article on the dribble from the Monday Night Club about Giggs. In posting this, the intention is not to have a pop at Giggs. It's not his fault people in the media spout such rubbish.
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There's a need for foreign pundits too. Too many British pundits are friends and far too bias to be impartial.There's an inferiority complex regarding English football. The once proud nation is being overtaken by foreigners simply because they're not good enough themselves anymore, and it's clearly hard to take for some which is understandable, because it's not always been like that. England was a top nation once using British players and managers only to win European Cups and other European trophies, there was no need for foreign players and managers in the 60's, 70's and 80's to win, but now there is, and not just in a small scale, but in a massive scale.
Well, make sure it's not former foreign United players then.There's a need for foreign pundits too. Too many British pundits are friends and far too bias to be impartial.
One has to wonder how former players know so little about something they are so experienced in.Well, make sure it's not former foreign United players then.
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Because a lot of them are a bit simple? Remember these are grown men who've never had a real job.One has to wonder how former players know so little about something they are so experienced in.
But hard to find these days, even down in the divisions.Because a lot of them are a bit simple? Remember these are grown men who've never had a real job.
Football is also a weird industry. It's assumed that if you played the game you know something about management. It's like saying the guy who makes a great pie could run Greggs.
I don't blame Giggs for taking his time though. That first job is crucial to your rep. So trying to find a patient club with a good board is worth waiting for.
Yep....he could be in for a long wait.But hard to find these days, even down in the divisions.
Or hit the ground running, which isn't impossible, even for a rookie.Yep....he could be in for a long wait.
You make a fine point. I'd say clubs probably don't care as much he shagged his inlaw, but his name is too big that any feckups would be a bad press.not having any credentials managerial wise is a huge no go but I think Giggs personal life is stopping him getting a job too. Can't imagine there's many people wanting to hire someone that's got his track record away from football, ask yourself this if you owned a business knowing what we know would you hire him because I certainly wouldn't.
It's not impossible but presumably he'll be taking over a team that's struggling without too much money to spend. It's a big ask. Even the greats like Mourinho and Kopp struggle to get the team going straight away.Or hit the ground running, which isn't impossible, even for a rookie.
I think all that's true if they get the time. Which is a big if. Most managers are gone before they get chance to make it a good job.It's a good manager that makes it a good job.
Off course there are exceptions and limit to what a great manager can achieve., but a good manager will shine wherever they go! It's not the other way around.
Put saf at burnley he'll shine, put moyes at united he'll fail. Nobody's expecting giggs to win the league with swansea, but at least he can show something worthy for his next bigger job, isn't that natural progression.
I always feel that the current set of great managers learnt their tricks lower down the table that when they're at the top they pretty much has developed everything they need.
What you're describing (assuming we're talking PL-level) is what most coaches dream of these days. If such an opportunity arose, that club would really be slumming it if they went with Giggs over any multitude of coaches who'd jump at such a job.That first job is crucial to your rep. So trying to find a patient club with a good board is worth waiting for.
I was thinking Championship as well but yeah your point is true.What you're describing (assuming we're talking PL-level) is what most coaches dream of these days. If such an opportunity arose, that club would really be slumming it if they went with Giggs over any multitude of coaches who'd jump at such a job.
If Giggs is looking for the perfect situation, he's going to be looking for a long time.
Neolithic attitudes towards coaching did thatThere's an inferiority complex regarding English football. The once proud nation is being overtaken by foreigners simply because they're not good enough themselves anymore, and it's clearly hard to take for some which is understandable, because it's not always been like that. England was a top nation once using British players and managers only to win European Cups and other European trophies, there was no need for foreign players and managers in the 60's, 70's and 80's to win, but now there is, and not just in a small scale, but in a massive scale.
I don't think it'll hold him back too much, in that he's still a very well respected name in football and won't struggle to get an initial job, and certainly won't struggle if he begins to succeed, but I do think it's kind of altered the general perception of him a bit. Throughout his career Giggs was perceived as this down to earth, loyal, hard-working family man, the type of talented player who didn't catch headlines.not having any credentials managerial wise is a huge no go but I think Giggs personal life is stopping him getting a job too. Can't imagine there's many people wanting to hire someone that's got his track record away from football, ask yourself this if you owned a business knowing what we know would you hire him because I certainly wouldn't.
This, he's expecting a seat at the high table, but doesn't have the credentials.If he was looking for a South Wales job Newport County would have been ideal to get his teeth into management. Funny, he didn't seem to be interested in that one.
Could you see Ryan Giggs managing all the way down there? Some players are just too big for such a crappy place. One thing is that he shouldn't start at the top, but no former star player start with such a job, at worst they have some youth coach job at their former club, like a lot of former Dutch players turned managers.If he was looking for a South Wales job Newport County would have been ideal to get his teeth into management. Funny, he didn't seem to be interested in that one.
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I like how ITV's first question was to give him the chance to tell everyone that he turned the Swansea job down rather than the other way round.
A very obviously scripted question and answer.
That's why I can't stand punditry in England. They treat the viewers as if we are all thick as shit
Yup luckily he was ok with the autocue"Swansea did not match my ambitions"
Not enough women?"Swansea did not match my ambitions"
Real quote?"Swansea did not match my ambitions"
Yup.Real quote?
Ryan Giggs has hit back at claims he had a poor interview with Swansea saying: ‘They did not meet my ambition.’Real quote?
I think you'll probably find that in football, that makes almost zero difference.not having any credentials managerial wise is a huge no go but I think Giggs personal life is stopping him getting a job too. Can't imagine there's many people wanting to hire someone that's got his track record away from football, ask yourself this if you owned a business knowing what we know would you hire him because I certainly wouldn't.
How would he know what the owners see for the future of the club if he doesn't meet with them?That's disrespectful to swansea.
If you dont think the job is good enough then dont apply. The fact that he has an interview (and lost the job) means that he's interested in the first place.
Many well known players from abroad start in the lower leagues, & English ones do as well. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank, who had a top class career, took over Burton in league two & before that a Belgian 2nd division club, & Burton are perceived historically as a smaller club than Newport. He got promotion & moved on to QPR. Obviously Ryan Giggs is beneath all that, & too big for such a crappy place according to you. The question any fan should be asked is. Would you want Giggs to be appointed manager of your side, & I think we probably know the answer to that.Could you see Ryan Giggs managing all the way down there? Some players are just too big for such a crappy place. One thing is that he shouldn't start at the top, but no former star player start with such a job, at worst they have some youth coach job at their former club, like a lot of former Dutch players turned managers.