Cardiff have just sacked Paul Trollope. Wonder if Giggs will be a contender, he was born there.
Ryan Giggs | Interviewed for Wales job
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They've already suffered one relegation by a United hero, doubt they're interested in another one.
You can't blame Giggs for aiming for unrealistic jobs. Hardly anyone would decline a PL job because a lower league club would be better at the start of their managing career.
The latter is usually true but ppl who are offered the jobs don't think like that.
I personally would like Giggs to take a championship club first, less pressure and ideal to see what's out there outside the money-loaded and rosey PL.
Giggs to me comes across as a bit "immature", probably the most of the Co92. He has been with the club since 14, SAF personally took care that he joined United, then started being a PL regular for United with 17 and the poster boy of the PL. He was a United regular long before his other Co92 mates and stayed at United long after the others had left.
He got all the protection from SAF since day 1, and I guess the protection was there until SAF retired because by that time they had known each other for so long.
Now he is the most successful PL player ever and noone will ever win 13 PL titles or even come close to that number.
After that he remained at United.
I do think a break from the very top and a different kind of environment for him before returning to PL would be ideal.
The latter is usually true but ppl who are offered the jobs don't think like that.
I personally would like Giggs to take a championship club first, less pressure and ideal to see what's out there outside the money-loaded and rosey PL.
Giggs to me comes across as a bit "immature", probably the most of the Co92. He has been with the club since 14, SAF personally took care that he joined United, then started being a PL regular for United with 17 and the poster boy of the PL. He was a United regular long before his other Co92 mates and stayed at United long after the others had left.
He got all the protection from SAF since day 1, and I guess the protection was there until SAF retired because by that time they had known each other for so long.
Now he is the most successful PL player ever and noone will ever win 13 PL titles or even come close to that number.
After that he remained at United.
I do think a break from the very top and a different kind of environment for him before returning to PL would be ideal.
They wanted Bellamy for a while so they'd probably take anyone, tbh with the shit they play they should just give the job to a traffic cone.
Well that's the thing with perception isn't it. People perceive things differently. I have explained my perception of Ryan Giggs input in a coaching capacity. I would be interested to hear yours?
Exactly this
Just out of interest... why the assumption that he is holding out for a Premier League club and wouldn't start in the Championship for example? I reckon he would if he felt a good opportunity arose for him. I've never heard anything that says to me he is only interested in managing in the Premier League.
Why would he expect to be a contender for the Swansea job? I don't know... but if someone contacted me about a job and invited for me an interview which is what appears to have happened in this case... then I'd probably consider myself to be in contention for that job. Perhaps they just wanted his autograph though?
Disappointing that this thread isn't titled "Ryan has no management Giggs".
Giggs is so waiting till the United job is up for grabs again.
Giggs probably learnt too much from LvG. Apparently his interview for the manager's position at Swansea was very underwhelming.
Or Malky Mackay.
I doubt it.
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Not in the least bit surprised to read he'd have interviewed poorly.
That's too logical. The countless examples of famous players starting at the highest level obviously hasn't registered with anyone and Ryan Giggs is somehow a unique case.
To be fair, although we don't know for certain, he may be making the absolute best of considerable genetic gifts off the pitch as well.
To be honest his best chance could be a move abroad. He was linked with Legia Warsaw for a short period of time and while I have doubts whether he really enquired about the availability of the job there, maybe this would actually be a decent idea. A good foreign club could employ him despite the lack of experience because he is a huge name and would draw attention. Then he could prove he has the tools to make it, besides managing a potential title challenger somewhere could be a great experience.
Someone in the mould of Panathinaikos, Celtic, PSV, Rosenborg etc. could take him at some point. Even in France and Germany, or maybe Spain, he could have a better chance.
Someone in the mould of Panathinaikos, Celtic, PSV, Rosenborg etc. could take him at some point. Even in France and Germany, or maybe Spain, he could have a better chance.
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...and still waiting for a PL job
At least he looks happy there...
...and still waiting for a PL job
He really needs to start lower leagues. Can't see how he would just walk into a PL job with the stakes being as they are. Look how much time Swansea and Villa have given their managers. It's crazy but that's just how it is these days. He'd really have to hit the ground running or have a QPR-like chairman to give him time to settle.
I'd say one of the main problems for Giggs if he doesn't go into management soon is how late he's leaving it. Granted, he's still far from old in managerial terms and could have 25 years or so if he gets into it now, but when you think of football's top managers then most of them were either making a name for themselves or had done so by the time they were at Giggs' current age of 42.
Pep Guardiola had won multiple La Liga's and CL's. Mourinho had won the league title in two different league and had a CL to his name. It was around Giggs' current age Simeone and Klopp won the league with Atletico and Dortmund respectively. At Giggs' age Fergie was doing a superb job at Aberdeen and wasn't far off getting the United job. Clough wasn't far of Giggs' age when he won the European Cup twice...and by that point he'd already won the league with Derby beforehand.
Of course, all managers develop at a different pace and for all we know Giggs is a genius in the making, but for me he hasn't shown any great eagerness to get into management, unlike many of the games other top managers who were desperate to get into it right away and who thrived from a young age.
Pep Guardiola had won multiple La Liga's and CL's. Mourinho had won the league title in two different league and had a CL to his name. It was around Giggs' current age Simeone and Klopp won the league with Atletico and Dortmund respectively. At Giggs' age Fergie was doing a superb job at Aberdeen and wasn't far off getting the United job. Clough wasn't far of Giggs' age when he won the European Cup twice...and by that point he'd already won the league with Derby beforehand.
Of course, all managers develop at a different pace and for all we know Giggs is a genius in the making, but for me he hasn't shown any great eagerness to get into management, unlike many of the games other top managers who were desperate to get into it right away and who thrived from a young age.
The Celtic job would have been ideal for him imo. Could've got some experience in management while winning some titles and porking some Scottish hoes
His best chance to get a decent job is to do what the rest of us have to do, and that's prepare properly and impress during an interview. Not many owners will be stupid enough to hand out a job because of who he is.
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Well there is the age at which they retired from playing, and also the fact that Klopp, Simeone, and Guardiola all got the opportunity to manage at their clubs once retiring as a player, which Giggs didn't get.
fecking hell how does this man earn a living talking about football. It's like hiring a monkey as a programmer.
Klopp started out with Mainz and Simeone with Racing Club. Both clubs are significantly smaller than United and more likely to appoint managers with lesser credentials. Both worked their way up to Dortmund and Atletico by impressing and showing their credentials as managers. Pep started out with Barca B.
If Giggs was desperate to become a manager then he could've either searched for a job that offered a player-manager role, or retired and went into management earlier. Not that I'm advocating either option because Giggs offered us a lot in his later years and clearly loved the club and wanted to remain with it, but the impression I've gotten from him is someone who wanted to be Manchester United manager, as opposed to a football manager in general. He seemed content to wait around as a coaching team member/assistant with the hope that the job would be passed down to him. Irrespective of when he retired he's essentially approaching his mid-40s and still has no managerial experience whatsoever. That's very rare for top managers. It's not to say he's incapable of being one but if he eventually wants to manage United then he should be jumping at any decent, viable job he can find.
Yep, it's the yoga innit :-)To be fair, although we don't know for certain, he may be making the absolute best of considerable genetic gifts off the pitch as well.
Me neither. Wonderful player but he's a dull speaker who I can hardly recall ever saying anything intelligent or interesting.
"Doesn't need an interview, just this..." then describes an interview process, ffs......
Great article on the dribble from the Monday Night Club about Giggs. In posting this, the intention is not to have a pop at Giggs. It's not his fault people in the media spout such rubbish.
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Chris Sutton & Robbie Savage talking rubbish, whatever next. Sutton has to be the worst pundit on television, with his superior obnoxious attitude, & can only conclude he is employed so people can laugh at him.
Im not sure you even need an interview to know what kind of bloke he is do you - its pretty common knowledge
Working your up happens in virtually all professions, including Football management.
It's strange that Giggs didn't think that this applied to him.
Once Jose came in, it became clear to Giggs that there would be no free lunch and that he needs to work his way up the ladder, just like all the other managers in the World.
Some classics in this thread.
Savage is going all out to make himself look stupid.
First there was the, "Rooney meant to mis-kick the ball" and "his miskick was an assist for Martial's goal"
Now, "Giggs does not require an interview for a job"
I'm waiting for, "we should not have pay for items, when taking food out of a supermarket!"
Please people from other countries, are your ex-players this clueless about football?
Our lot over here are a joke. Just look at that article ffs?
Great piece. Shows how thick so many of our ex-pro pundits are.