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Would like to see him at Fulham in the PL too before he leaves. Would be a sensible decisionBig game for him tomorrow. Think he will prefer it on the large Wembley pitch. Hope Fulham win and he stays there.
Would like to see him at Fulham in the PL too before he leaves. Would be a sensible decisionBig game for him tomorrow. Think he will prefer it on the large Wembley pitch. Hope Fulham win and he stays there.
Got an assist today, looking forward to seeing him in the PL next season.
Thought he did his defensive job really well too. Tracked back brilliantly,very impressed.One moment of magic from him won Fulham the game.
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Doubtful Martial will be sticking around with the current set up, and is he even a LW anyway, & Sanchez maybe has 2 years left at the top level, by which time if this lad kicks on will be coming into his own, makes too much sense really.Last thing we need is a left winger, unless Mourinho turns out to be a mad genius who comes up with a tactic for playing 3 players at left wing per game
We dont need a player for 2 years time. We need a player for now. In 2 years time, if we havent done better the manager signing him wont be around.Doubtful Martial will be sticking around with the current set up, and is he even a LW anyway, & Sanchez maybe has 2 years left at the top level, by which time if this lad kicks on will be coming into his own, makes too much sense really.
We have a player for now, Sanchez, and if Sessegnon progresses then I doubt they'd be many manager who wouldn't want him.We dont need a player for 2 years time. We need a player for now. In 2 years time, if we havent done better the manager signing him wont be around.
We have Sanchez and Rashford to get the best out of at the very least. We don't need a 3rd player, another expensive one, we fail to get the most out of as well.
He would be insane to move and any agent worth his salt would tell him the same thing. Has the world at his feet and can play with much less pressure than a move to a top 6 club, could well ruin his development.He'll stay at Fulham, no need for him to move.
It seems he is very sensible too, he turned 18 last week. I can't see why he would move. I'm guessing he will sign a new contract with Fulham. Then if he kicks on next year whoever buys him will have to reward his boyhood club.He would be insane to move and any agent worth his salt would tell him the same thing. Has the world at his feet and can play with much less pressure than a move to a top 6 club, could well ruin his development.
Agree.It seems he is very sensible too, he turned 18 last week. I can't see why he would move. I'm guessing he will sign a new contract with Fulham.
Not heard a word about him, so probably not that well.So how is this kid doing since the step up to the PL?
He's been playing like an 18 year old adapting to a stronger, faster league with a lot less space.Has he actually been awful as some have suggested? or just not justifying the hype currently
His manager thinks he's doing OK and he's played 90 minutes in their last 3 games. He's taken the place of the French lad they bought in the summer as a left back.Has he actually been awful as some have suggested? or just not justifying the hype currently
Forget whether he's settling into a new league or not you only need to watch him a couple of times to see in terms of talent he's not comparable to the likes of Sancho and Foden. The hype around is bizarre given what we've seen with young players who break through at an early age before. I'm not saying he isn't a good young player and wont go on to have a good Prem career. But the idea that he's a "special" talent is based purely on his age, not his actual ability.
Some young players are physically capable of playing this very simple at a very young age. It doesn't mean they are the most talented. Micah Richards, Reece Oxford, Embolo, Rodwell etc are all similar in that they were physically ready very early. But there were loads of far more talented youngsters, with much greater scope, who just weren't ready to impose their game on senior football.
There is no Beckham like crossing from Sessegnon, no Giggs like dribbling, Scholes style passing, Berbatov touch and so on. So why talk about him like he has so much potential? Watch the likes of Sancho, Hudosn Adoi, Gomez and Foden, then compare their skills to Sessegnon and it's night and day.
He isn't as flashy or doesn't have the eye catching skills of them but he's very intelligent on the pitch. He picks up great positions in the box. Look at a guy like Thomas Muller and what he achieved whilst everyone said that he is technically crap.Forget whether he's settling into a new league or not you only need to watch him a couple of times to see in terms of talent he's not comparable to the likes of Sancho and Foden. The hype around is bizarre given what we've seen with young players who break through at an early age before. I'm not saying he isn't a good young player and wont go on to have a good Prem career. But the idea that he's a "special" talent is based purely on his age, not his actual ability.
Some young players are physically capable of playing this very simple at a very young age. It doesn't mean they are the most talented. Micah Richards, Reece Oxford, Embolo, Rodwell etc are all similar in that they were physically ready very early. But there were loads of far more talented youngsters, with much greater scope, who just weren't ready to impose their game on senior football.
There is no Beckham like crossing from Sessegnon, no Giggs like dribbling, Scholes style passing, Berbatov touch and so on. So why talk about him like he has so much potential? Watch the likes of Sancho, Hudosn Adoi, Gomez and Foden, then compare their skills to Sessegnon and it's night and day.
You're acting like there is only one style of player that can be successful. None of them are close to him defensively and neither are they close to his positioning in the box and finishing.Forget whether he's settling into a new league or not you only need to watch him a couple of times to see in terms of talent he's not comparable to the likes of Sancho and Foden. The hype around is bizarre given what we've seen with young players who break through at an early age before. I'm not saying he isn't a good young player and wont go on to have a good Prem career. But the idea that he's a "special" talent is based purely on his age, not his actual ability.
Some young players are physically capable of playing this very simple at a very young age. It doesn't mean they are the most talented. Micah Richards, Reece Oxford, Embolo, Rodwell etc are all similar in that they were physically ready very early. But there were loads of far more talented youngsters, with much greater scope, who just weren't ready to impose their game on senior football.
There is no Beckham like crossing from Sessegnon, no Giggs like dribbling, Scholes style passing, Berbatov touch and so on. So why talk about him like he has so much potential? Watch the likes of Sancho, Hudosn Adoi, Gomez and Foden, then compare their skills to Sessegnon and it's night and day.
It is a fair comparison, as Im talking about his individual technical ability and his scope for improvement based on that. The fact Beckham was playing for Preston enhances my point. The most gifted players often need time to be able to show their ability at the top level of senior football. Whilst there are many less gifted players who are able to have an impact at a young age. Sessegnon just isn't that talented. Again I'm not saying he wont have a good career, but he doesn't belong in the "wonder kid" category, anymore than Micah Richards or Ryan Babel did. Those types of players are safe bets for having good careers and playing international football, but they were also safe bets for not being world class players, as you could see right from the start, that the technically weren't anything special.Well he plays for Fulham who are gonna be fighting to stay in the league, put Foden in their team and he’d be up against it too, it’s not really a fair comparison.
Beckham was playing for Preston in the lower leagues at the same age.
You have to understand the context of Sessegnon. He was always a LB. He was exceeding expectations as a LB and then they moved him to LW because of that. He impressed in that position in the Championship at age 17 even though he was a LB. That is from where a lot of us are judging him by. He comes from the same golden generation that is Sancho, Foden, Hudson Odoi, his brother Steven, Gomes, etc... except that he was ahead in his development.It is a fair comparison, as Im talking about his individual technical ability and his scope for improvement based on that. The fact Beckham was playing for Preston enhances my point. The most gifted players often need time to be able to show their ability at the top level of senior football. Whilst there are many less gifted players who are able to have an impact at a young age. Sessegnon just isn't that talented. Again I'm not saying he wont have a good career, but he doesn't belong in the "wonder kid" category, anymore than Micah Richards or Ryan Babel did. Those types of players are safe bets for having good careers and playing international football, but they were also safe bets for not being world class players, as you could see right from the start, that the technically weren't anything special.
If you compare a young Rio Ferdinand with Richards or Oxford, it beggars belief that they all had comparable hype. Richards was playing regularly at 17, but never had anything like the ability of Ferdinand.
I've seen Sessegnon compared with Bale, as they were both playing on the left, for Championship sides at 17. But only blind man would think Sessegnon will ever have that wand of a left foot Bale was showing as a kid.
TBF Beckham played a month, scored 2 goals and impressed with his application and professionalism. He was bigger and stronger at that ageWell he plays for Fulham who are gonna be fighting to stay in the league, put Foden in their team and he’d be up against it too, it’s not really a fair comparison.
Beckham was playing for Preston in the lower leagues at the same age.
He isn't bad and won't be a bad player. Think he was lauded far too much for his Fulham form;some thinking he was a world class winger in the making,taking on players and beating them for fun etc.I've watched him maybe 2/3 times in the PL but I didn't think he was bad? For an 18 year old, he seems to be handling the PL quite decently.
I honestly don’t agree with a word you’re saying. Beckham had scored 2 goals in lower league football at 18 whilst Sessegnon ripped the league apart.It is a fair comparison, as Im talking about his individual technical ability and his scope for improvement based on that. The fact Beckham was playing for Preston enhances my point. The most gifted players often need time to be able to show their ability at the top level of senior football. Whilst there are many less gifted players who are able to have an impact at a young age. Sessegnon just isn't that talented. Again I'm not saying he wont have a good career, but he doesn't belong in the "wonder kid" category, anymore than Micah Richards or Ryan Babel did. Those types of players are safe bets for having good careers and playing international football, but they were also safe bets for not being world class players, as you could see right from the start, that the technically weren't anything special.
If you compare a young Rio Ferdinand with Richards or Oxford, it beggars belief that they all had comparable hype. Richards was playing regularly at 17, but never had anything like the ability of Ferdinand.
I've seen Sessegnon compared with Bale, as they were both playing on the left, for Championship sides at 17. But only blind man would think Sessegnon will ever have that wand of a left foot Bale was showing as a kid.
Bale played 24 games for Spurs in his first two seasons and they didn't win any of those games. So he had to wait 2 years to be on the winning side.I honestly don’t agree with a word you’re saying. Beckham had scored 2 goals in lower league football at 18 whilst Sessegnon ripped the league apart.
Bale was a left back with potential but was a often dropped, even when he made his Spurs move he couldn’t get a run of games, didn’t they go on a daft run where they lost every game Bale played? At 18 nobody could tell Bale would be a 30 goal a season player he’d hardly moved from left back.
I don’t know how Sessegnon will turn out but it’s too early to write him off he’s 18 years old.
Bale only played 24 games for Spurs in his first two season and they won none of those games. So he had to wait 2 years to be on the wining side.