SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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My understanding of the pets situation is that we think very rarely one can get it, that when they do they don't get ill and that they won't be able to pass it on either to humans or even members of their own species.
I thought that I had read somewhere but have not the foggiest where that one of the reasons why China, South Korea etc appear to have gotten a faster handle on this disease is that they invested heavily in infectious disease clinics during the SARS outbreak and mothballed the facilities afterwards......which if true was more than any western country did.
That cat is 100% going to go around rubbing against people now. Evil little shits.
feckers won't stay isolated, that's for damn sure.Peak expected for the beginning of April so not that surprising. Touching wood, but I still only know 1 person who had the symptoms so far (but wasn't tested).
Hopefully they don't push through with that 1km-rule they are talking about.
Most hospital buildings are old, but the design and proximity of areas is where they’ve been addressed over the past two decades or so. Infection control is paramount with all NHS staff and briefed regularly. The only challenge is that the NHS can cope with a volume of cases, but when we’re in a situation of a mass of cases then even the best designed hospitals will struggle with capacity.
I think the facility at the ExCel arena is merely to deliver capacity, having it focused on an infectious disease obviously will deliver some benefits both for infection control and tracing.
South Korea’s is all down to testing & contact tracing.
Cool, thanks.
It seems like field hospitals close to main hospitals where triage can occur is a good way to go. Didn't I see some Chinese invention where a person walks through a tunnel of disinfectant? Seems like a good idea for health workers who go on and off shift.
We don’t have the testing kits or the process to deliver mass testing yet. I imagine over the coming weeks we’ll start to have a wider scheme implemented to understand where people are with regards to their immunity to it.
Exactly.
Let's be clear here. Labour from 2000 to 2010 oversaw a 24% reduction in acute care beds. From 2010 to 2018 there was a 12% decrease. Every party has been picking the bones of the NHS, because it's been such a money pit. It's not exclusive to the Conservatives by any stretch, or the UK. It's an international trend.
I think field hospitals is a great way to approach it, as a temporary measure, but it’ll all come down to availability of equipment to make them a useful asset.
I think there’s things we can learn from China and protection for the health workers. The wider personal worry i have is that my other half is out treating normal patients on home visits currently, they had patients lying about their condition (ie. they have symptoms of Covid19, but not telling them) and then turning up at the door and having to back off quickly. There is a high risk of those out in the community that haven’t really got the PPE, being exposed and potentially carrying the virus unintentionally.
It does come back to testing priority and those with patient interaction need it super quick.
I found one thing super entertaining about it, winding up conspiracy freaks. Beautiful stuff.
I know this isn’t relevant but next door have bought a third cat. So now there’s one I haven’t run over
The feck is that? You can't go further than 1 km from where you live?
You can, to go to work or to buy groceries, but not if you go out for a walk for instance. It was suggested by someone, but I'm sure it won't happen.
Plans to reduce homelessness have been drastically brought forward. Amazingly it can be done with a little effort
The NHS has probably been saved as well. Nobody will now vote for anyone who has plans to scale it down.
Also, once this is over, people will appreciate normal life and freedom much more.
Nearly every town in the UK used to have a dedicated and purpose-built “Isolation Hospital”. They were all closed decades ago as infectious diseases had pretty much been eliminated and they were thought to be no longer needed.
Those of us in small Comunes in Italy are in that situation, we have to stay within the village boundary at all times (including for shopping). It's been the worst part of the latest restrictions.
And with the money needed for above, hopefully a reduction in political and pointless wars. Thus a reduction in scenes like Syria, Iraq, etc. And therefore less asylum migrations.
Very interesting video. Using location data on mobiles, it chooses one beach in Florida during spring break and then tracks where all those people went after.
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Starting to second guess myself, round mid to late February I had a bad cough like I'd never had before. Like waking up in the night with coughing fits. Probably nothing but making me consider did I have it. In Ireland by the way.
In theory in France, you can't go further than one or two kilometers from home. And we now have to precise the time we intend to be out.
Boris has got it!
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And his partner's pregnant.
Yep. Not good.
feck, is Raab in charge now?
Better check on his mistresses too.
The plans are for temporary accommodation, putting people in B&Bs or short term lets on student accommodation for example. That will drop the number of rough sleepers temporarily, but won't make much impact on homelessness more generally. You're right on the NHS though, its already a sacred cow in this country and will be more so.
I said he looked ill last week at the things.
For the record, Raab takes over if hes too unwell to work.
And you all thought it couldn't get worse.
For the record, Raab takes over if hes too unwell to work.
And you all thought it couldn't get worse.
Best of health to him and his family.
Hopefully he can still do everything via video call, apparently the intolerable Raab is next in line apparently.
EDIT - @Nogbadthebad Great minds.
Hopefully he can still do everything via video call, apparently the intolerable Raab is next in line apparently.
EDIT - @Nogbadthebad Great minds.
He looked a bit run down at Question Time.
Boris just needs to take this on the chin.
These articles, models and opinions popping up suggesting that it might have been here much longer than we thought and far more widespread than estimated seem a bit strange. Were there a bunch of unexplained deaths in europe over the last few months which no one was focused on? or is what we are seeing now a more deadly mutation? and why have health services in Europe seemingly only become stretched to breaking within the last month or so? and why did the tests from two weeks ago show a low confirmation.
Everything I read and see suggests that this situation in Europe is much more severe than a month ago and the severity seemed to balloon suddenly. These are all layman observations of something I don't know enough about though and am happy to be put right.
Everything I read and see suggests that this situation in Europe is much more severe than a month ago and the severity seemed to balloon suddenly. These are all layman observations of something I don't know enough about though and am happy to be put right.
Not in England they didn't. Acute beds fell from 108k to 101k during that period (-7%). Geriatric and acute fell from 136k to 122k (-10%). From 2010 to now geriatric and acute (there are no individual figures) have fallen from 122k to 101k (-17%).
You can find the exact info here: https://www.england.nhs.uk/statisti...vailability-and-occupancy/bed-data-overnight/
Boris and Charlie got tests fairly sharpish!
I'm sure Boris's affluent and likeminded colleagues will be able to cover for him.