It's also spread by contact with bodily fluids of people with symptoms, and symptoms of Ebola are pretty obvious. It's easy to isolate and contain in a developed country.
I object to this assumption of sub-humanising as an explanation for allocating some responsibility. I haven't seen or made any posts allocating blame upon the Chinese due to any racial profile. I understand it is a pipe dream to wish that the Chinese Govt. could take any responsibility but every human in the world has had their lives upturned and worse now every time a virus originates from within their borders. The responsibility for allowing this particular virus to spread beyond their borders on every occasion that they have a laboratory incident or transmission from animal to human due to poor hygiene and then engage in deceit about its beginnings, progress and disruption lays the blame if we call it that on no-one but the Chinese Government. The facts that our lives may be changed forever, the debt that we all incur and the sorrow we endure cannot be any other than theirs to own and make restitution for until the next occasion and the next has nothing to do with their race whatsoever and playing that card even if it might be wishful thinking that we could find a way to recompense the destruction is mistaken at best.
Spanish flu didn’t originate in Spain, for what it’s worth. Bet they felt a bit hard done by over the choice of name.
True. Im unsure where he is being treated though. Guess they have not publicised it.
Too late for that, China is too powerful now both militarily and economically to succumb to so called 'world pressure'. Ironically its only Trump and the US who can take them on, just imagine that it may come down to a choice between Xi Jinping and Donald Trump!!
I just went down a YouTube comments rabbit hole after someone I know posted a video of some gobshite spouting nonsense on Facebook about 5G. Which was a terrible idea. Conspiracy theory types are the absolute worst.I was wondering why no one has mentioned 5G but then I just fully read the thread title
I don’t think we can. It’s a zero sum game between us two.
Quite possibly it is, but the rest of the world, individually or even collectively, won't have a dog in the race!
Can't quite fully understand (Clunky) the end bit but I think I agree.
Imagine she's desperately trying to avoid questions on her definition of "essential workers"
Or people (there are other words I could use) like this?
I think I'm trying to say that this is not the first occasion and I'm doubtful that it will be the last. That it has nothing to do with race and I am hoping that it is merely a mistake to label it as racist.
As a famous (or infamous) Chinese leader once said "every journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step" ... this could well be the first step in human kinds journey in responding to an increasingly over crowded planet. Just as we look to how we react to climate change, we will have to now include pandemics of this nature in our accounting and our preparations and hopefully going forward countries like China (but not just them) will get on board to finding a response we can all live with, and live by.
Great article, thanks for sharing. I think there's actually been an absence of this kind of coverage, just trying to lay out the facts rather than trying to fit some agenda or other.
That's crazy if true. I would have though the next step to that would be can't speak, can't call so is presumably a death sentence?
9/11 changed the way we fly.
Would they all be protected contractually by 'force majeure'? I mean this is genuinely the most true example of that in living memory!
It's just as bad on twitter and my watsapp groups
Interestingly I've had a few friends say they've been on calls this morning and it sounds like further lockdown is pending.
My view as well.
That would just motivate them to hide it even more next time.
I think so. The weather's cooling off in the NW at least which'll stop the picnics and sun-bathing, but we all have a picture in our heads of what normally happens at Easter. It's the start of the season, really and people go out. Of course, things won't be open but they'll still want to go out.
Thank you man, I had actually given it some thought and do not disagree with you, it is not easy to imagine how we attempt to protect ourselves beyond expecting China to take responsibility for how their citizens choose to live. Choose being their responsibility.
I posted an article in this thread on this subject the other day. People have been destroying and setting fire to the masts, then attacking the engineers that come out to fix them. What made it even more ridiculous and absurd, was that most of the masts they were destroying didn't even contain 5G technology due to the slow rollout of it. So they were destroying 3G and 4G masts.
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I have had discussions about this being a force majeure and I tend to think it is, despite the governments advice to carry on working. We will see how this pans out but I suspect there will be companies incorrectly using the crisis to defend their poor performance. If a subcontractor made a terrible cock up and forgot to order something they would be mad not to.
I think there's going to be quite a load of lawsuits on the back of this. I recently found out, the company I work for does have some sort of protection built into their contracts for a time like this (not necessarily pandemic cover but in a sudden drop in business is written into the contracts) but the customers are outright refusing/incapable of paying at the moment.
I think this is the bit many don't seem to get. Consuming rare wild animal meats, rhino horn, elephant tusk dust etc are a true signal of prestige in China and believed to enhance a persons capabilities. It's a habit that goes back many generations and is deeply etched into cultural folklore and norms. It's exactly the very rich, influential and powerful (probably including Xi Jinping and the rest of his party elders) who consume in this trade and passionately believe in its benefits. So why would they ever agree to give up a cultural norm they passionately believe in, which goes on inside their own culture and country?
If ever there was a time and place for the EU to prove that the U.K. was wrong to walk away THIS was the occasion. Sadly they have failed to step up to the plate. No concerted EU effort at all.
I wonder if you can understand that this has been discussed and shown many times over many years and is not a new concept to many of us.
You having that take on it is exactly the reason they pulled this stunt:
Out of interest, could anybody explain to me what the EU has done as a collective thats any different to what we have in the uk? Have they shared PPE or ventilators as part of an EU wide agreement.? Have they shared Doctors and Nurses? Has there been any form of EU wide agreement on lockdown, both in timings and severity, or EU wide agreement on travel?
