Between this and Brexit, we will lose a huge amount of freedoms over the next 12 months and not see many of them return indefinitely. When your country votes to voluntarily give up your rights to live and work in 26 other countries though, it feels a bit glib to be lamenting the restrictions placed on us by the coronavirus. The coronavirus will certainly lead to changes, some of which will be in the best interest of public health and others will be in "our best interest".
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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This bit is fascinating.
Supports the idea that viral load might be a factor in severity of illness. You can’t help wondering that the really mild/asymptomatic cases got a really tiny viral load. You’d wonder if a very simple vaccine could involve a tiny dose of live non-attenuated virus.
It's promising but I'm skeptical about their IFR confidence intervals.
They've been derived directly from the CI limits of the infection rate which is just a starting point really. I can't see the random variance of 7 deaths being accounted for.
As a basic example, if modeled binomially on the point estimate (7/1956), random variance alone gives CI limits [0.18%, 0.74%].
Indeed. Clearly something they should have included.
And let’s insist that folks can only fly for business reasons.
Why? Most business can be conducted over the phone / video call / email.
Seeing the world garners appreciation of other cultures and societies, and broadens our minds.
Unless your post was sarcasm of course, and it went over my head...
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This melts my head a bit. What the hell?
What is worse is that there are people in the comments saying that the airline isn't at fault because the people chose to be on the plane. Well, the airline could choose to reduce the passenger allowance for a start ffs.
Oh I agree brexit was the stupidest decision ever.
I was trying to be sarcastic. Sincerest apologies for being so poor.
The budget airlines are only profitable when the majority of seats are full. The Irish fella who owns Ryanair was saying the only way they'd be operating flights under social distancing guidelines is if the government pays for the empty seats. Otherwise they'd be operating at a loss and obviously would prefer to stay grounded.
Not that I'm defending aer lingus. I'm amazed they're allowed to operate under those conditions.
When are they releasing our timeline for coming out of lockdown?
Thought it was to be today?
Thought it was to be today?
Think it is Sunday.
Wouldn't be surprised if lockdown is extended by another two weeks before easing of some measures
They're the same bunch who don't understand that social isolation isn't for self-preservation. Between 1and 4% of the population are supposed to be sociopaths and i think they're identifying themselves throughout this.
Madness. I wouldnt go near an airplane for two years.
Even still just by being in such a contained area increases the risk of contracting the virus.
If people go over the top in Italy over the next two weeks regarding meeting up with family, we're going to be back where we were very quickly. Just reading some comments on reddit's Italy sub and people are saying that they're seeing big groups of people together.
The rules are that people wear masks and maintain social distancing when visiting relatives, but we all know that's not going to happen inside someone's house - especially here, where people like to hug and kiss. Even when I take the puppy to the village, one old lady grabs her so enthusiastically she looks like she's going to eat her.
The rules are that people wear masks and maintain social distancing when visiting relatives, but we all know that's not going to happen inside someone's house - especially here, where people like to hug and kiss. Even when I take the puppy to the village, one old lady grabs her so enthusiastically she looks like she's going to eat her.
I think this will happen in many countries when the restrictions are eased but I still think it's the right thing to do because I imagine people in Italy are close to breaking point. What will most likely happen is that the number of new cases will increase and some restrictions will be put back. I think the first wave was about managing the number of people in hospital, now that the numbers have fallen they can take new patients in when they second wave happens.
I'd say there is more social distancing happening onboard that aircraft than in this IKEA queue:
This. Its going to be like the sine curve in mathematics. It goes up and then down and then up again.
The number of infections will go down, people will become bullish and meet up, then the number of infections will go up again and people will withdraw, and then they will go down again.
Well hopefully a decaying sine curve, as hopefully the bullishness goes down a notch with every wave
That would be ideal.
But then you have to factor in the economic system. They probably only can shut down the economy so many times before shutting down the economy becomes worse than the virus.
Mixed views about a vaccine as well. Some guy from the Imperial College said it will be difficult to make one. Others then saying we will have one by august.
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I think they'll start from the start of June
Sorry but I disagree. Its not reasonable to make a statement about levels of human to human transmission at the start of an outbreak of a new and deadly virus if you don't know that statement to be factually true.
Its not reasonable at all, its is reckless and self serving and if it was done to stop a panic, then it was not a mistake but a deliberate decision and calculated gamble that risks the outbreak getting out of hand if the wishful thinking about the transmission rate turns out to be wrong.
Which it was and that in my opinion is indefensible.
The Trump administration is privately predicting the daily coronavirus death toll will almost double over the next month, with new infections increasing from 25,000 per day to 200,000
https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...s-deaths-will-double-by-june-2020-5?r=US&IR=T
https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...s-deaths-will-double-by-june-2020-5?r=US&IR=T
Chances of catching it passing by someone in wide open spaces are very small, even if you do pass less than 2m apart. I wouldn't let that worry you.
A security guard is shot and killed after telling customer to put on a face mask
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/michigan-security-guard-mask-killing-trnd/index.html
Wow.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/michigan-security-guard-mask-killing-trnd/index.html
Wow.
It is a Wow, but not surprising.
Not surprising?? I have to say I'm surprised.
Have you been on Mars since birth?
Correct. I should have said we shouldn't be surprised by anything that happens there. It is par for the course.
Mars cannot sustain human life and so he wouldn’t survive very long in the unlikely event he had been there since birth. Also Mars does not have WiFi.
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In the context of a botched job it was reasonable. Bear in mind that I was responding to the withheld part and I'm not defending China. Initially they messed up locally, it is apparently the case in Thailand that made them realize that a human to human transmission was definitely possible, the CDC failed to determine it wihen they sent two teams in Wuhan in late december and early January it also took them an eternity to deal with suspected cases in Shenhzen. Beijing handled it directly after the Thai case and prepared things behind the scenes before warning the public of a possible pandemic.
As I said to someone else a few weeks ago, praising China is a joke because they made the exact same mistakes that almost everyone else made, the difference is that they had the manpower to fixt a lot of mistakes quickly. And they seemingly had limited knowledge themselves due to a serie of early mistakes.
Maybe it can’t sustain life forever and you need other sustenance like vitamins and minerals but a Mars a day definitely helps you work rest and play.
200k infections per day? Surely that can't be right. That would lead to an unimaginable death toll that doesn't bear thinking about.
Anyone knows what is happening in Russia and Brazil? Have they changed their testing policies or are they getting oubreaks?