Maybe it should have been STAY ALERT, KEEP YOUR DISTANCE.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Sounds like something Shaw Taylor would come out with.
It's just a slogan for fecks sake! 
Seems ok if one is relaxing certain things.
I find Scotland relaxing exercising and sticking to the original STAY HOME to be a little mixed messaging, more so if they open garden centres too. We're opening the garden centres but Stay the fook Home.
Italy figures today:
New cases 802, deaths 165.
New cases 802, deaths 165.
Yes lets stay indoors forever let the economy go to sh*t, and let everyone have mental breakdowns and commit suicide.
Any deviation away from the message "stay at home" is rightfully going to be scrutinized. People haven't given a feck for weeks now and the fact that the message isn't clearly stay at home anymore will mean more people will give less of a feck.It's just a slogan for fecks sake!
Is that an improvement or not?
Haha yeah, super funny!It's just a slogan for fecks sake!
You shouldn't really talk about things you have no understanding of.
Getting on with it will just nullify the sacrifices everyone has made thus far.
Edit - just to educate you further. We still have no idea the impact this virus has on children. People are also catching the disease twice. Thus its thought the virus may remain dormant in the lungs, like tuberculosis, before becoming active again.
Allowing the virus to spread again will just overwhelm the NHS. Where services are taken away from things like cancer treatment.
Then when the population is ravaged, what good would it do to the economy? Or mental health.
This little Britain, blitz mentality is fecking idiotic.
But let's get on with it ay.
The tory cnuts are about to ease lockdown this evening. I'm certain we shall see a second peak due to stupid street parties that have taken place lately.
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Our government's slogan is "Stay Safe". Now what could that mean? If we get right down to it? Mmm...
My guess would be you can still carry it physically on e.g. your hands from touching stuff, but you won't be able to carry it in your system, so to speak. But I'm not a doctor.
And you know exactly what your talking about? We've seen new cases in Germany and south Korea once they eased up. Its not going away unless we get a vaccine. We need to get on with it one way or another and learn to live with it.
Therein lies an issue for me. We've constructed something as a society (the economy) and led people to believe that it has more value than human life.
Its got nothing to do with that, eventually people wont even be able to afford to eat. Not everybody has savings to dip into do they.
Eh? You do realise with an economic collapse comes a loss of life too?
The problem we are having is weighing up deaths due to covid 19 Vs deaths due to economic collapse.
It's a balancing act at the moment.
You don’t want to push all old people online.
My parents are at least halfway smart but their news sources are the newspaper, or aggregated content on Facebook.
No slight on old people as a group. I know you’re of an older vintage yourself. Most are right headed. But too few understand that ‘content’ is not ‘news’.
But many over 50 are in some very narrow lanes already. Narrowing them won’t help.
Who suggested that? Just you I think.
The economy isn't some abstract concept. It's an aggregation of human output.
Every doctor who saves a life and every farmer who grows an apple is contributing to the economy.
It's how stuff gets made, how things get done and how regular people are able to acquire the things they need to stay alive.
Restrictions should totally be lifted for key workers first, so I can go play golf.
I did joke about it at first, but it's a possible step in the right direction tbh.
Key workers are well aware of risks and practice social distancing at their workplaces anyway, what better group to test some places on how they would open? Maybe a fortnight of key workers for restaurants , golf , non essential shops to see how it goes. We've all got letters to say we are key workers haven't we?
There is probably a million flaws in that, and I am sure you guys will quickly point them all out to me.
I did joke about it at first, but it's a possible step in the right direction tbh.
Key workers are well aware of risks and practice social distancing at their workplaces anyway, what better group to test some places on how they would open? Maybe a fortnight of key workers for restaurants , golf , non essential shops to see how it goes. We've all got letters to say we are key workers haven't we?
There is probably a million flaws in that, and I am sure you guys will quickly point them all out to me.
Its not though. Its not a Brexit negotiation. It all comes down to how to halt the spread of the virus. Restarting the econony is just the result of that.
It's not really. Not yet anyway. Deaths from Covid far outweigh anything else at the moment.
So will we be allowed to go visit family or not? I'm so confused. I'd like to go take my 9 month old daughter to see my parents for the first time in 3 months, they've missed almost a third of her life, time we won't get back. I don't understand why I can't do that, at a safe distance of course, but it's perfectly fine for me to walk around within 2 metres of people or go to the supermarket rammed with people I've never met in my life.
If Garden Centres are being allowed to open (random) then I don’t see why things like Golf Courses shouldn’t also open (for all). They are more outdoors than Garden Centres and there is no need to get within 2 metres of fellow golfers. I don’t play golf so I am not biased either way.
Lowest numbers since the very beginning of March.
We're about to find out how well the virus really transmits in outdoor spaces because parks etc have been fecking rammed this weekend.
Agree, I’m not a fan of his by any means but he has attempted to answer questions more than most.
How isn't it? During this lockdown businesses are at risk of disappearing, jobs lost, the longer it goes on the more jobs and business disappear.
After the lockdown is over, those jobs won't suddenly return over night?
The risk of people breaking down mentally due to the financial impact is huge, suicides will and probably already have happened due to what is going on.
At the moment being the key part of that.
I agree, a longer lockdown is needed, but I see it from the otherside too. A guy with a business which isn't making his usual 10k per month, now on 2800, and getting into more debt. He isn't being helped, things are going from bad to worse for him. I can understand why he would want lockdown to end.
I think lockdown could end, if we could trust people to be sensible.
If lockdown ended, I'd just go about business as I have for the past couple months, I'm social distancing at work, not meeting up with people anyway. I'd basically still be on a lockdown.
Idiots gonna idiot no matter if we say there's a lockdown or there isn't.
I know it's not ideal as it will make the NHS task more difficult again, but that's just how it is.
The only other option is a more strict lockdown which we cannot police anyway.
Just my opinions guys, don't go off the rails cos I CBA to argue.
Hopefully it doesn't cause too many problems.
I don't understand the whole garden centre thing tbh, they're horrible stuffy places which are humid and be an ideal environment for a virus to thrive surely?
Have you seen the idiots at the weekend, it may be a simple slogan but more idiots will interpret it to do whatever they want and put more people in danger.It's just a slogan for fecks sake!
Not sure they need a slogan to do that. They have been doing it all along in one form or another.
Yes, it's an improvement. Lowest daily number of new cases since 6 March, lowest daily number of deaths since 9 March. We've had our slight easing of restrictions now for 7 days. The end of next week will be more illuminating.
You do realise that a serious economic crash will cause more death than this virus ever will? So what do we do? Stay indoors in the fear it might kill us?
Their daily numbers already look horrible, but it appears they are in for far far worse. Do they even have a lockdown or does their moron in charge still think this is a hoax?
Hope it goes well. They might expect some increase. It is how big that increase is and for how long.
That is true but more dimwits will think it’s ok as well and it will just snowball.
UK would be best to stay as it is for a couple more weeks to see how the countries easing out of lockdown fare.
Easing ours now seems a stupid idea, seeing as though 2 more weeks could give us a lot clearer view of what to expect. Seems we are just following other countries, but early. By the time results of other countries are in (2-3week) it'll be too late for us if we have already lifted the lockdown.
Of course the economy and jobs are important, the Government cannot keep paying the wages it is but just going out there and relaxing everything at once is not an option. There needs to be a balanced approach which is of course easier said than done.