We're going to have a second spike in 5/6 weeks and going to be back in lock down. This is just beyond fecking stupid and I refuse to believe the Government did not expect this to happen when they changed the rules.
Still not hitting the end of April arbitrary test target of 100k. Never mind the pending 200k target.
Isolated, small/wealthy or previous practical pandemic experience covers most of them.
And even they can’t be trusted, based on different reporting criteria.
I think Asian countries in general are far more advanced and meticulous in their planning than western countries, perhaps because they have more experience. It’s 2nd nature to them to wear face masks for example. Perhaps when it comes to face masks we should be copying them.
Yeah people forget about them, but considering their location to China they’ve done an amazing job
Yeah but now it's not the government's fault because they did tell people to use common sense afterallWe're going to have a second spike in 5/6 weeks and going to be back in lock down. This is just beyond fecking stupid and I refuse to believe the Government did not expect this to happen when they changed the rules.
This graph is just so disingenuous. It's not going to be a steady decline at all, it's going to be a roller-coaster with the second peak towering over the first.
In Ireland they have social distancing efforts on public transport- basically a bus that holds 60 people is ruining at max capacity of 17, with A lot of seats covered with Covid/do not sit messages
Even the highly educated don’t have common sense - see the governmentYeah but now it's not the government's fault because they did tell people to use common sense afterall
It's funny how we've gone from 'we must follow the science' to 'Tom 29 from Stoke with 3 GCSEs should just use his common sense'
I completely agree.We're going to have a second spike in 5/6 weeks and going to be back in lock down. This is just beyond fecking stupid and I refuse to believe the Government did not expect this to happen when they changed the rules.
This graph is just so disingenuous. It's not going to be a steady decline at all, it's going to be a roller-coaster with the second peak towering over the first.
It was 4 last week in the UK, don't know whether it's changed since then.
It's an illustration. What would you prefer? A rocky line with peaks and troughs that most wont understand and everybody can complain about when they don't match up exactly to what really happens? A second wave that is impossible to predict and makes people question the point of following any of these measures?We're going to have a second spike in 5/6 weeks and going to be back in lock down. This is just beyond fecking stupid and I refuse to believe the Government did not expect this to happen when they changed the rules.
This graph is just so disingenuous. It's not going to be a steady decline at all, it's going to be a roller-coaster with the second peak towering over the first.
Eastern European countries are suffering!
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
It doesn’t matter who the footage is off - packed busses are going to lead to spikes
Shock as people in city of 9 million, where people heavily rely on public transport to get around and many don't even own cars, have to use public transport to get to work when told by the government they should be working.
Honest question, what's the basis for assuming that the second wave or peak will 'tower above' the first.We're going to have a second spike in 5/6 weeks and going to be back in lock down. This is just beyond fecking stupid and I refuse to believe the Government did not expect this to happen when they changed the rules.
This graph is just so disingenuous. It's not going to be a steady decline at all, it's going to be a roller-coaster with the second peak towering over the first.
Didn't Boris order those trendy London Buses with the non-opening windows and mega expensive curved glass everywhere.... He is starting to rival Chris Grayling for his decisions coming back to cost us dearly. Mind you Grayling mostly cost us money...Boris has blood on his hands.
My nephew lives there and it's been brilliant. He and his partner stayed in the country near her family for a while, but very little changed and now everything's back to normal. They've gone back to Ho Chi Minh City and he sent us a vid the other day of them walking around the streets - everything open, no-one wearing masks that I could see.
It's a completely unnecessary illustration and intentionally vague and disingenuous. If they are trying to indicate that the different stages are triggered by the R value then they should have scrapped the graph and given us a more absolute list with the target R values because god forbid we're actually given details and specifics instead of shitty slogans and abstract graphs.
I think it's that there may be potential for a higher number of infections because the virus is much more established within the community now.
Blaming of the public has begun !
This first wave originated in a handful of locations from a handful of cases. The virus is now prevalent in every corner of the UK to varying degrees. Talk of the R being below 1 now is nonsense if people are suddenly going to be using public transport and acting like they were back in February. The mechanics of the virus hasn't changed. A full bus in May will propagate the virus in exactly the same was a full bus in March did.
Complacency, with time people get complacent and feel powerful.
It's madness. If the government really had any motivation to avoid this they would have put measures in place to make sure it didn't happen. Every single mode of public transport in England has a sticker on it saying the maximum passenger capacity. How difficult would it have been to instruct the bus companies to operate at 50% capacity. If a bus can seat 70 people, bring it into law that they can only have 35 passengers.
How the hell do they expect people to go to work? Start driving their non-existent cars into city centres where there's nowhere to park?
The poor bus driver aint going to be able to police that though - that's the problem.
Well to be fair the horrible plebs should be getting their chauffeurs to drive them to their low paying factory jobs in their limos, not risking people's health on public transport!
I think there are 2 potential reasons - one is that the initial peak comes from a small initial base of infection that rapidly spreads to all it can until things get locked down. So whilst you might feel like the disease is continuing to spread it is in fact lying dormant waiting for....release of lockdown...which allows a sudden massive increase in the numbers of people to infect and the disease spreads even more rapidly as people mass together thinking they are now safe.
R1 will never again lead to lockdown as we know it.
They already do when they drive past bus stops because they are full.
Yeah they can do that I guess
Do you think they try to hid it someway and avoid a second lockdown?We're going to have a second spike in 5/6 weeks and going to be back in lock down. This is just beyond fecking stupid and I refuse to believe the Government did not expect this to happen when they changed the rules.
This graph is just so disingenuous. It's not going to be a steady decline at all, it's going to be a roller-coaster with the second peak towering over the first.
As someone from the Gulf I can tell you Bahrain numbers are likely not real. They are doing worse than us (Kuwait) because the initial arrival of the virus into both countries were religious worshippers coming back from Iran (back when the virus was ravaging Iran) and Bahrain have way more people who regularly attend those ceremonies. Earlier in the pandemic there were videos going viral of them not having enough hospital beds to house cases. You can probably trust the numbers of all Gulf countries except Bahrain and KSA.
Isn't this second-wave assumption based on the Spanish Flu pandemic? I think I read that somewhere...
There are three problems with that.
