SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I hate talking aboht politics... but don’t poor people wanting more money take the piss
This is a quote about voting for Boris so we can go down hilariously. BTW - don’t talk about it when he takes us down hilariously.
Can’t complain about thousands of extra deaths or the government ifnoring their own rules... but tell ya what isn’t Grera Thunberg annoying!?
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General Public = Total Asshats. There seems to be a lot of disdain for the general public.
“People will moan about everything... BTW - I’m annoyed I can’t play golf at the moment.
I have a feeling the devil is in the details...
There is a chance, albeit a small chance, that the secret in understanding this virus lies in big data. If some independent company interviewed every person who tested positive and asked them enough questions, we would've had a vast amount of data - most of it seemingly pointless data.
But, if we fed it into a computer to find patterns in the answers we might've discovered something useful in this fight.
It is assumed that genes play a deciding factor in the severity of the disease, but I still have a feeling there's something else. Or maybe a combination of things.
Who knows? It could be as simple as: "How many cups of coffee did you drink on the day you first started showing symptoms?"
There is a chance, albeit a small chance, that the secret in understanding this virus lies in big data. If some independent company interviewed every person who tested positive and asked them enough questions, we would've had a vast amount of data - most of it seemingly pointless data.
But, if we fed it into a computer to find patterns in the answers we might've discovered something useful in this fight.
It is assumed that genes play a deciding factor in the severity of the disease, but I still have a feeling there's something else. Or maybe a combination of things.
Who knows? It could be as simple as: "How many cups of coffee did you drink on the day you first started showing symptoms?"
Unfortunately, I don’t think that data mining and machine learning really work on this way.
Lovely work @Wumminator. Had already planned to add him to the ignore list by the time I caught up with the thread once again, but I enjoyed the skewering conclusion.
He is probably a sound enough lad. But there is a group of people who seem to think they’re apolitical when actually taking a stance on everything. I hope that by pointing out these posts one night only can see that
A) he is constantly pushing down on the most vulnerable and needy
B) he sticks up for the ones who put them there.
That is not a natural state to be in. We all laughed when Starkie made his affluent and likeminded people post, but the post I quoted above about it being hilarious is Boris takes us down is just as mental. We now see what it looks like and it’s tens of thousands extra people dead.
What do you mean? Are you addressing the points I made or correcting my terminology?
He is right on this point though.
It should be a own thread to discuss the political aspects of the coronavirus, and maybe even a thread just for the Cummings situation.
It'd be nice if we could keep the Cummings stuff in the Westminster Politics thread please.
I don’t think that asking a random set of questions and then crunching the data in the computer is how these things work.
You’ve seen how hard it is to keep Cummings in Westminster mate. The bald cnut pops up wherever he likes.
As there seems to a bunch constantly citing the economy without ever offering any evidence in the slightest (because only others opinions need evidence).
It's only modelling but i think it's what most have been assuming, the economic cost of allowing R above 1 is worse than all but the hardest lockdown.
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It's only modelling but i think it's what most have been assuming, the economic cost of allowing R above 1 is worse than all but the hardest lockdown.
I’m kind of with you, in that the way this has become something that absolutely EVERYONE on twitter has an opinion on is a bit mental. And I’m also generally in favour of people using common sense to apply a bit of wriggle room with these rules.
It has to be said, though, moving to a completely different part of the country - 200 miles away - when you know you have coronavirus is off the charts irresponsible. This is so much worse than what Prof Ferguson did. He could have been patient zero in a whole new cluster, in a region that would otherwise have been unaffected. That sort of selfishness is next level shithousery.
You are most probably right. I guess time will tell.
There was a huge rise in cases in Durham shortly after he visited, while symptomatic.
“I don’t care about politics but” is absolutely code for “I’m a Tory but don’t want to admit it”.
My issue is less with him being irresponsible. It's that the entire cabinet has now shredded their credibility to defend him. Why now would anyone listen to anything they say about controlling the virus, when they've said that the slightest excuse can be used to completely ignore the rules. If, god forbid, this thing takes off again during the winter, and Boris combs his hair and puts on his serious face for another national announcement, half the country will ignore him because he and his cabinet have said actually, it's fine to break the rules if you want to.
This is why it was right that Ferguson went, despite not really creating any sort of risk. You can't undermine the simple instructions, or the public will ignore them.
This is why it was right that Ferguson went, despite not really creating any sort of risk. You can't undermine the simple instructions, or the public will ignore them.
The bit I love about this is
"These mutations seem primarily induced by the human immune system via host RNA editing, rather than being signatures of adaption to the novel human host"
Which sounds like, while we're passing it on, our immune system is at least kneecapping the bastard.
It wouldn't be authoritarianism if the people at the top didn't actively flout the strict rules they impose on the masses.
Would be hilarious to see Cummings sacked for it though.
Would be hilarious to see Cummings sacked for it though.
Brilliant find wumm
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First German state has announced the end of all coronavirus measures on Jun 6. This means rules on minimum distances, obligatory face masks and all contact restrictions will be abolished. They are justifiying it with the low number of currently infected people (~250). Local authorities can put their own regulations in place if necessary.
Cummings’s story is nonsense. My guess is that he wanted to be out of London in case he needed hospital treatment given the fears at that time that services could be overwhelmed in the capital.
If I were Boris I’d keep hold of him through this. I’d have him pencilled in as the guy to take the fall for the governments failings during the crisis.
If I were Boris I’d keep hold of him through this. I’d have him pencilled in as the guy to take the fall for the governments failings during the crisis.
That doesn't account for him basically commuting between the two places though, as well as attending parties.
So you’re saying that he breached lockdown for his own gain. So the story isn’t nonsense then?
My brother-in-law lives in Birmingham, works as a GP. As soon as he had symptoms he let us know, he didn't have many family members close by. He has two kids, we supported his family in his own home with groceries, ensuring kids were ok. It was a bitch of a drive but done just the once to ensure more than a fornightly worth of supply of essentials was done.
The whole premise of Cummings argument is wellbeing of a 4 year old. We know a lot of people can become unwell with covid but plenty also do not. And the senior-most government advisor could I'm sure have a way to source things for them.
The basic premise of what's being used to defend him is utter nonsense and intelligence-insulting. And they acting that it isn't which is even more grating.
The whole premise of Cummings argument is wellbeing of a 4 year old. We know a lot of people can become unwell with covid but plenty also do not. And the senior-most government advisor could I'm sure have a way to source things for them.
The basic premise of what's being used to defend him is utter nonsense and intelligence-insulting. And they acting that it isn't which is even more grating.
I mean for the initial journey when he was ill.
I said his excuse with the kid is nonsense. Travelling in the car would increase the risk of transmission to his kid and in turn his parents greatly. There had to be another reason why he wanted to be up there.
He didnt want to be treated in a London hospital. People were expecting it to be hell in those a few months ago
Maybe we should take this to the Westminster thread?
An annoying part of twitter outrages for banal shit is that when there is genuinely something we view it from the lens of it being hyperbolic due to it being talked about on twitter.
I genuinely think this goes beyond twitter but how it'll translate in terms of BoJo's government losing popularity and in terms of future electability along with the rest of their mess ups if at all I'm not sure
I genuinely think this goes beyond twitter but how it'll translate in terms of BoJo's government losing popularity and in terms of future electability along with the rest of their mess ups if at all I'm not sure
Aaah fair enough!
nice workFantastic work.
Is Cummings the one that supposedly made an Ivan Draco style “if they did they die” Comment when talking about OAP’s with Coronavirus?
I love him. Can we go on a date @Wumminator ?
Yep.
He’s also been a proponent of keeping the lockdown in place and hard though. If he leaves you could well see a pro-economy government emerge that takes a lot more aggressive stance with things reopening.